Quote: (07-24-2016 03:06 PM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:
Obviously, if you visit strip clubs with their 300UAH cocktails or look for professionals, your costs will increase.
That's a sneaky statement. So anyone who has a budget of 100 € +/day in Kiev is necessarily someone who visit strip clubs and look for whores ?
I can post the menu of maybe 30 restaurants in Kiev where a dinner for two costs at the minimum 60 €. And I'm not even talking about high-end venues as
Stefano, where the cheapest decent wine is at 30 €, and where main dishes are between 25 and 40 €.
Also you talk about 300 grvs cocktails in strip bars, but as you've been in "high end venues", you should know that a cocktail in a "posh hipster" venue like
Mozgi or The Bar costs about 180 grvs (7 €), which is admittedly cheap by western standarts, but can seriously impact your budget if you are a thirsty party-goer.
Furthermore, we were talking about living permanently and having a good lifestyle in Ukraine - which means a two or three weeks winter vacations to some exotic country with your 8+ GF to escape the winter and the dull atmosphere, buying nice clothes when you want to, dining out in good restaurants four times a week, partying hard in some high end club or bar when you feel like it, having one or two weekend breaks in spring to Georgia or wherever, spending one month in Odessa or Batumi in summer, ect ect - which is not a lavish lifestyle, but just a "good lifestyle". And with a budget of 3000 €/month, I don't think you can have such kind of lifestyle.
Anyway I'm done with this endless discussions about the cost of life in Ukr. If you guys feel that you have a great lifestyle with 30 €/day, good for you.