[mipter]

Hey,

I'm a 23 year old guy, a virgin. Funny thing is, I've got game. Better than 90 percent of the make losers I see out at night. I make out with a new girl sometimes 2 or 3 per week. I always know what I can do to get her in bed. Problem is, maybe it's nerves, It just never happened, almost subconsciously I'd stop it before it got to sex. I realized what i was doing, and immediately got a girl into bed.

My main issue is this: I was drunk, and high, and I came to early. And try as I might, I couldn't get it up again, even after 2 hours of her sucking my dick. It happened once before as well, with a different girl. Well, I met a new girl, and she wants to fuck, and I will fuck her.
Should I take viagra, just to get over this fear of it happening again...?

ps. I wouldnt even know where to get it if I should take it...

[Roosh]

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My main issue is this: I was drunk, and high

You obviously don't have a medical problem so throwing viagra into the mix wouldn't make much sense unless you're trying to bang 10 hookers in a row. Have you tried drinking less or doing less drugs?

I wonder if banging a hooker might ease your nerves a bit.

[mipter]

(07-26-2011 02:38 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

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My main issue is this: I was drunk, and high

You obviously don't have a medical problem so throwing viagra into the mix wouldn't make much sense unless you're trying to bang 10 hookers in a row. Have you tried drinking less or doing less drugs?

I wonder if banging a hooker might ease your nerves a bit.

I had the same dilemma abt a hooker

a) why so obvious no condition...it is possible even in young people...but i doubt it

b) even if no condition is there, viagra is powerful and nerves cant stop its effects...

i still wouldnt know where to get it...im not abt to go to my doc for a RX

[Blackhawk]

Don't get drunk or high next time before attempting sex. You obviously did too much from nervousness and it effected you physically.

If you are really worried about prolonging yourself, before going to viagra, there are less scary alternatives:

http://www.condomman.com/page/C/CTGY/Lon...ax-Condoms

Once you've done it enough to be less nervous and more comfortable with the act you will be able to move to normal condoms, which will heighten the sensation for you.

[mipter]

[quote='Roosh' pid='76089' dateline='1311709135']

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Have you tried drinking less or doing less drugs?

Ive been in bed with a jewish woman recently but she didnt want to fuck, religious issues. I had no trouble then, and was sober, so you may be onto something. but then again, the issue always happens when i try getting my dick in; it just kinda wilted those two times

[mipter]

(07-26-2011 02:49 PM)Blackhawk Wrote:  

Don't get drunk or high next time before attempting sex. You obviously drank too much from nervousness and it effected you physically.

If you are really worried about prolonging yourself, before going to viagra, there are less scary alternatives:

http://www.condomman.com/page/C/CTGY/Lon...ax-Condoms

Once you've done it enough to be less nervous and more comfortable with the act you will be able to move to normal condoms, which will heighten the sensation for you.

im not really worried about prolonging myself, i lst control the bec i wasnt in my right mind; my issue is more the nerves that exist from wilting as im abt to go in...

[haywire]

Since you're a virgin and facing this problem, I'd suggest you lose it to someone who you can practice with a few times without worrying that non-performance on your part would make her run away. Your basic problem is anxiety due to lack of experience, it seems. While trying to lose it, I myself faced quite similar problems(premature cumming, dick softening) as you.
Initially, I too would get anxious and try to push it to a later time when makeouts would get hot and heavy, and when I finally lost it, it took a good 5-6 tries over 3-4 days and full 10-pack of balloons to get it right for the first time!

[mipter]

(07-26-2011 02:55 PM)haywire Wrote:  

Since you're a virgin and facing this problem, I'd suggest you lose it to someone who you can practice with a few times without worrying that non-performance on your part would make her run away. Your basic problem is anxiety due to lack of experience, it seems. While trying to lose it, I myself faced quite similar problems(premature cumming, dick softening) as you.
Initially, I too would get anxious and try to push it to a later time when makeouts would get hot and heavy, and when I finally lost it, it took a good 5-6 tries over 3-4 days and full 10-pack of balloons to get it right for the first time!

thats possible, in a way i hope this chic is the ttype that wnts to date for a month before trying to fuck...but he def isnt so a quicker fix is needed lol

[Roosh]

My guess is to tame the anxiety you drink a lot, which only makes the problem worse. Your way of dealing with the problem actually makes it more sure to happen.

You're hooking up in drunken circumstances with women who you may not be entirely comfortable with, so you're worried what they think about you. For your first time, it would be helpful to get with a girl who really likes you and will be patient in case you need some extra time.

Next time you are hooking up with a girl, say to yourself, "It's okay if it goes soft at any point. I will give him time and he will return. It's not a big deal."

[mipter]

(07-26-2011 02:57 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

My guess is to tame the anxiety you drink a lot, which only makes the problem worse. Your way of dealing with the problem actually makes it more sure to happen.

You're hooking up in drunken circumstances with women who you may not be entirely comfortable with, so you're worried what they think about you. For your first time, it would be helpful to get with a girl who really likes you and will be patient in case you need some extra time.

Next time you are hooking up with a girl, say to yourself, "It's okay if it goes soft at any point. I will give him time and he will return. It's not a big deal."

hey thanks!

[Vicious]

Am I the only one thinking that the line "23 year old virgin with game" is an oxymoron?

[mipter]

(07-26-2011 03:51 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Am I the only one thinking that the line "23 year old virgin with game" is an oxymoron?

Read the post and you'll see why it isn't. I went to an all boys high school and didn't go to college...I have no issues approaching girls, and usually get the kiss within a few minutes. I rarely don't get what I want out of a girl I want. I just hadn't escalated it till i was old enough to be nervous about being that old... catch 22, get it?

[wolf]

Why don't you prolong the fourplay?

You're so concerned about putting it in that you stress yourself out. Relax, let the chick play with you, you play with her and when the two of you are comfortable just put it in.

[Vicious]

(07-26-2011 03:54 PM)mipter Wrote:  

(07-26-2011 03:51 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Am I the only one thinking that the line "23 year old virgin with game" is an oxymoron?

Read the post and you'll see why it isn't. I went to an all boys high school and didn't go to college...I have no issues approaching girls, and usually get the kiss within a few minutes. I rarely don't get what I want out of a girl I want. I just hadn't escalated it till i was old enough to be nervous about being that old... catch 22, get it?

I read it and I think you're making excuses. We are talking about 1 close in 23-YEARS. You can't compartmentalize game and say you're doing it great while falling on the finish line. The fact that you're bringing Viagra into the discussion is because you're stuck in your head on one particular encounter. If you keep going out and pulling (without alcohol) then that single happening isn't going to carry any mental weight.

I'm being harsh here for a reason. Drop the drinking and get back to the fundamentals of closing.

[mipter]

(07-26-2011 04:55 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

(07-26-2011 03:54 PM)mipter Wrote:  

(07-26-2011 03:51 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Am I the only one thinking that the line "23 year old virgin with game" is an oxymoron?

Read the post and you'll see why it isn't. I went to an all boys high school and didn't go to college...I have no issues approaching girls, and usually get the kiss within a few minutes. I rarely don't get what I want out of a girl I want. I just hadn't escalated it till i was old enough to be nervous about being that old... catch 22, get it?

I read it and I think you're making excuses. We are talking about 1 close in 23-YEARS. You can't compartmentalize game and say you're doing it great while falling on the finish line. The fact that you're bringing Viagra into the discussion is because you're stuck in your head on one particular encounter. If you keep going out and pulling (without alcohol) then that single happening isn't going to carry any mental weight.

I'm being harsh here for a reason. Drop the drinking and get back to the fundamentals of closing.

by all means man, be harsh. im not on here to have people cuddle me and say dont wrry ur awesome! you have a point, while perhaps tht fear of the incident doesnt make me not know how to game, it does affect my game ie by me not wanting to close all the time when i otherwise could.

well played

[dermanus]

If you're jumping the gun, masturbate before you think you're going to get laid. It'll take some of the pressure off. I mean that literally, not figuratively.
I actually had the opposite problem for awhile, where I would always hold off because I thought lasting for an hour was expected (we can blame porn for that).
It may take some of your sex drive down, but given your age you should recover fairly quickly.

[kimleebj]

(07-26-2011 02:34 PM)mipter Wrote:  

I came too early.

This is a common concern, but arguably you were several years too late. There is good advice in this thread.

[MiXX]

Dang yo! A virgin at 23? Fuck, how did you make it through high school without slitting your wrists??

I would of pulled a columbine if pussy did not calm my raging hormones down in JR. High!

Amazing!

Mixx

[Jaz]

Stop watching porn. Only masturbate when you are hard naturally.

This is an article from Psychology Today that sums this up way better than I could:

"Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunction Is A Growing Problem"

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupi...ng-problem

[mipter]

(08-01-2011 09:24 PM)Jaz Wrote:  

Stop watching porn. Only masturbate when you are hard naturally.

This is an article from Psychology Today that sums this up way better than I could:

"Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunction Is A Growing Problem"

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupi...ng-problem

interesting....i like the idea...i think i may try that.

[boxwino]

(07-26-2011 02:38 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I wonder if banging a hooker might ease your nerves a bit.

Get some love without pressure under the belt and then when it matters you'll be ready. You can also replace 'hooker' with 'floozy'

[whodat689]

(08-04-2011 12:56 PM)boxwino Wrote:  

(07-26-2011 02:38 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I wonder if banging a hooker might ease your nerves a bit.

Get some love without pressure under the belt and then when it matters you'll be ready. You can also replace 'hooker' with 'floozy'

I've had this problem a few times, sometimes maybe I drank too much but sometimes if I'm with a new girl for the first time it's nerves of just under performing or not being able to perform well, climax, enjoy it with a condom.

I find that not whacking off hurts my sex game bad so I can't suggest thats the problem.....my solution is to just start off very slow. Many times guys or even girls just want to fuck straight off the bat.....put the condom on or fuck...............you need more slow, more foreplay rubbing touching on her body will work, flip her over on her stomach, check out her ass,eat her out, rubb up against her and it should do the job just take your time and think positive

[davidkm590]

Try reading "Sex God Method" by Daniel Rose
It seems, like what other people mentioned, is your current lack of sexual confidence. You just have to fuck it up(literally haha) and be okay with it and learn.

[misterstir]

From my understanding it is physically impossible for a drunk man to get an erection because alcohol narrows ones blood vessels and an erection requires them to open up especially around the penis so at best you'll get have limp dick if you are truly drunk ie more than 1 or 2 drinks depending on your weight. If your drinking 5 beers a night and trying to fuck you'd be lucky if you could get even a semi limp dick. Also alcohol impairs motor skills. Just like walking is tough so is getting your dick hard.

As for being a 23 y/o with game but being a virgin, you're deluding yourself. If your not having sex you don't have game especially if you are only getting women when you're drunk.

[Johnnyboy]

(12-10-2011 01:11 AM)misterstir Wrote:  

From my understanding it is physically impossible for a drunk man to get an erection because alcohol narrows ones blood vessels and an erection requires them to open up especially around the penis so at best you'll get have limp dick if you are truly drunk ie more than 1 or 2 drinks depending on your weight. If your drinking 5 beers a night and trying to fuck you'd be lucky if you could get even a semi limp dick. Also alcohol impairs motor skills. Just like walking is tough so is getting your dick hard.

As for being a 23 y/o with game but being a virgin, you're deluding yourself. If your not having sex you don't have game especially if you are only getting women when you're drunk.

Im gonna have to disagree with you my friend, as i am the master of drunken sex