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Opening a Set of Two Women
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Opening a Set of Two Women

Approaching sets is harder than approaching a woman by herself. There are a lot more risks involved (e.g., cockblocking jealous friend, you have to have good social skills and make sure to connect with everyone, etc.) But, as we progress with our game, we become better and better at it, and we eventually step up to the next level.

Gentlemen, I'd like to share an opener gem which I discovered and think is great for opening a set of two, and ONLY two, women.

Here it is:

"Oh, you're lesbians?"


Let me explain a little bit of the reasoning behind this opener. Physical contact between non-gay men in American society is basically restricted to just a handshake. Women, on the other hand, are given far more leeway in terms of holding hands, hugging, kissing, and showing affection. A woman's female friends are more open and receiving of her physical contact, while almost any type of "male bonding" is immediately seen as gay. Thus, here is a good way to exploit this cultural phenomenon.

In high school, I remember staying at a hotel where scholastic competitions between schools were being held. At that time, since I was away from my helicopter parents, I tasted a bit of freedom and decided to have some fun. A pair of girls were sitting on the floor, waiting for their turn to be called up to compete. They were both listening to their iPods. Then they did this thing in which they shared a headphone. You know, like when one person has the bud in one ear and the other person has the bud in the other? Well, one of the girls decided to place her head in the other girl's lap. It was like this:

[Image: stock-photo-two-girls-in-lingerie-laying...873132.jpg]

O.K., it wasn't that erotic, but you get the idea. So, I said:

"XXX, I would get up if I were you."

"Why?"

"Because you look like lesbians."

Laughter immediately ensued. All the people in the room were laughing their pants off. I was surprised. I didn't think it was that funny. But they were decent girls and didn't take any offense and were also laughing themselves. In fact, one of them that had never paid any attention to me whatsoever on the ride to the hotel, but on the drive back, she was literally begging me to listen with her to her iPod, asking me what songs I liked, tried to introduce me to some of her stuff that she listened to, and was eye-fucking me even though she had a bf.

Let me say that I have only tested out this opener only a few times, but have seen highly successful results. It's up to you to see fit how you want to use it. Remember, don't say it in a way that actually insults them. Say it in a neutral way like you've got their back against the haters.

Why this opener works:

1) It qualifies the women. They will vehemently deny that they're lesbians and try to "prove it."

2) It demonstrates DHV.

3) Great for indirect game. Since you thought they were homosexual instead of heterosexual, they're going to assume that you had no primary motives of hitting on them. What kind of a straight guy is going to hit on lesbians?

4) You don't run the risk of one of them cockblocking you. Since the statement was aimed towards both of them, you're qualifying both of them at the same time.


Like I said, I'm still testing this thing out, but I've got a good feeling about it. I'm thinking of a hypothetical conversation might go like this:

Me: "Oh, you're lesbians?" or "I'm glad to see a lesbian couple out in the open. You guys have my support in spite of all the haters."

Them: "We're not lesbians."

Me: "Really? I could've sworn you were. I have a cousin that's lesbian, and I can tell when someone is or isn't gay."

Them: "Like how?"

Me: "Well, I noticed you girls were showing much more affection and physical contact than those two people over there."

Them: ....

Me: "Tell ya what. Why don't both of you, to prove that you aren't lesbians, each kiss me on the cheeks at the same time?" (Kinda ballsy and risky, but the likelihood is probably better if you're in a bar or a party.)

Hello.
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Opening a Set of Two Women

I like the ballsy approach, but this can really get messy quick. Granted, it's a 50/50 shot things will go your way, which is better than what you had before - ZERO. I guess smiling and playfully bantering is a MUST as to not confuse it as an insult.

I've seen girls go in dressing rooms together, rub their asses/tits against each other naked, and call it "havig fun" or "girls being girls" and would be offended at being called a lesbo, no matter what tone of voice you use.

The only way this make work against them is if you had everyone else around you, agreeing with you, in your case they did as everyone started laughing. Hoever, if you were all alone, and nobody had your back publicly, they would have been very antagonistic. It's a natural instinct to defend ones own sexuality.

The reason why this has been accepted is because EVERY MAN IN THE WORLD GETS TURNED ON TO SEE 2 GIRLS HAVING SEX OR MAKING OUT!

Now, straight women want to barf at seeing 2 gay guys make out. Women are not turned on by gay guys making out or touching.

Which is why a group of STRAIGHT guy friends in a hot tub not even touching each other would be seen gay. Not even have to touch for it to be labeled gay. Women can strap on a dildo, fuck her friend in the ass, and it's STILL QUESTIONABLE IF SHES GAY!

Mixx
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Opening a Set of Two Women

interesting and funny. I saw two blondes sharing earbuds last night in a bar. would have pulled this line on them for sure if they weren't with other dudes actually. plus there was another target on my mind anyway and i ended up number closing her.

at any rate, this is a great idea...definitely worth a shot the next time i'm out.
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Opening a Set of Two Women

Hmm, Mixx is definitely right about this one possibly getting messy. I've got laid using something similar though. The line I prefer is, "My friend over there *point to your wingman* bet me a drink that you two were lesbians..." then if they're acting really touchy as described above, "...he's wrong *pause* right?" This way you don't run as big a risk of offending them, as you're technically not the one insinuating they're dykes.
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Opening a Set of Two Women

Quote: (07-24-2011 03:36 AM)blurb Wrote:  

Approaching sets is harder than approaching a woman by herself. There are a lot more risks involved (e.g., cockblocking jealous friend, you have to have good social skills and make sure to connect with everyone, etc.) But, as we progress with our game, we become better and better at it, and we eventually step up to the next level.

Dude, that is the first level, not the next level. All good-looking women are always in sets - when have you last seen a woman alone in a bar? Besides the proverbial cougar on the prowl.
Now, day game is different - there you may encounter women alone.

As for the lesbo opener, I don't want to be quick to critique it since I haven't tried it. But I have seen and known straight girls who actually say they are lesbians just to brush off annoying guys. So there is the big risk for this opener to misfire - what if they just say "yes"?
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Opening a Set of Two Women

Quote: (07-24-2011 05:55 PM)CJ Wrote:  

Hmm, Mixx is definitely right about this one possibly getting messy. I've got laid using something similar though. The line I prefer is, "My friend over there *point to your wingman* bet me a drink that you two were lesbians..." then if they're acting really touchy as described above, "...he's wrong *pause* right?" This way you don't run as big a risk of offending them, as you're technically not the one insinuating they're dykes.

You run afoul of class issues and political correctness here.

There seems an unstated presumption in your question that bisexuality among women is distasteful. in many less puritanical cultures (Russia) women ape lesbian behavior to try to turn men on.

Also, among extremely attractive, upper-middle class and above women, for whom guys are an easy pasttime, bisexuality can be a badge of superior sensuality.

In addition ( not to beat you up here-- saying ANYTHING is better then nothing!) "betting a drink" sounds tacky, working class, and alcohol centered.
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Opening a Set of Two Women

Hey man, that exact routine has got me laid before, so I don't know what to tell you. If you don't like it, or don't feel comfortable with it, don't use it.
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Opening a Set of Two Women

Quote: (07-25-2011 01:29 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

Quote: (07-24-2011 05:55 PM)CJ Wrote:  

Hmm, Mixx is definitely right about this one possibly getting messy. I've got laid using something similar though. The line I prefer is, "My friend over there *point to your wingman* bet me a drink that you two were lesbians..." then if they're acting really touchy as described above, "...he's wrong *pause* right?" This way you don't run as big a risk of offending them, as you're technically not the one insinuating they're dykes.

You run afoul of class issues and political correctness here.

There seems an unstated presumption in your question that bisexuality among women is distasteful. in many less puritanical cultures (Russia) women ape lesbian behavior to try to turn men on.

Also, among extremely attractive, upper-middle class and above women, for whom guys are an easy pasttime, bisexuality can be a badge of superior sensuality.

In addition ( not to beat you up here-- saying ANYTHING is better then nothing!) "betting a drink" sounds tacky, working class, and alcohol centered.

lol whaaaa?

"Run[ning] afoul of class issues and political correctness" is if anything more proportional to "picking up bitches" than not.

you can worry about not aggravating supposed upper-middle class sentimentalities, meanwhile everyone else will be getting laid
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Opening a Set of Two Women

Quote: (07-26-2011 01:50 AM)hypesession Wrote:  

you can worry about not aggravating supposed upper-middle class sentimentalities, meanwhile everyone else will be getting laid

Haha, you got me there!

"When you're right, you're right, and you're right."

Jack Nicholson in Chinatown (One of my faves.)
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Opening a Set of Two Women

Quote: (07-26-2011 01:50 AM)hypesession Wrote:  

you can worry about not aggravating supposed upper-middle class sentimentalities, meanwhile everyone else will be getting laid

You got me there, hahha! One guy I know with way more game than me put it this way, "They don't want you to be polite."

"When you're right, you're right, and you're right."


Jack NIcholson in Chinatown (One of my faves.)
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