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09-02-2016, 12:52 PM
Is it not impossible, however?
Once again, PM me.
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09-02-2016, 01:29 PM
Of course you do. You care more about casting other people as extremely racist than you do about Not Lying.
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09-02-2016, 02:02 PM
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09-30-2016, 11:50 PM
Trump spoke about that in his MI speech today. He will reverse that.
“Nothing is more useful than to look upon the world as it really is.”
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02-16-2017, 01:20 PM
Even his patience was tested w/ this goofy uptalker. I wouldn't have lasted as long as he did dealing w/ this.
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02-16-2017, 01:56 PM
Must watch.
Science, religion, totalitarianism.
I need to make a JBP appreciation thread. I've been watching all of his Maps of Meaning lectures.
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05-31-2017, 06:49 AM
I followed some of his in-depth videos about Communism, Joseph McCarthy and other topics with interest.
However in other videos he started saying stuff that made my BullShit detector go off, ("different races have different number of vertebrae").
Looking back it is hard to know what to trust. I found Prager University very interesting for a while, until I tried finding sources for some of their claims (We didn't lose the Vietnam War!).
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06-01-2017, 01:21 PM
I have listened to a lot of his podcasts. His call in shows are usually outstanding - some episodes are over 4 hours and it is like taking a peek behind the curtain of a session with a psychologist. On a loaded work day, I am driving 2-4 hours - perfect for podcasts. I agree with a lot of stuff that he says but not every single thing. He basically gives every non-pc topic the full treatment + the call in shows. His work can change lives.
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06-01-2017, 02:56 PM
Quote: (05-31-2017 06:35 AM)Conquerer7 Wrote:
Have not listened to Stefan as much due to the mindbloxwing Jordan Peterson but this is well worth a listen.
I listened to this one today. Absolutely brilliant stuff.
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06-25-2017, 12:04 AM
I am strongly bothered by his encouragement of "de-FOOing", or intentionally alienating yourself from family if you were raised poorly. Among the listed reasons to do it on a site associated with him, you should deFOO...
…if your parents have circumcised you.
…if your parents have assaulted you including; spanking, slapping, pinching, hitting, hitting with implements.
…if your parents yelled/were verbally abusive to you or others in the home.
…if your parents threatened to abandon you if you didn’t do what they asked.
…if your parents are irrational/hold religious beliefs and taught them to you as if they were fact.
…if your parents did not follow the moral rules they taught to you.
…if your parents do/did not respect your feelings or try to manipulate your feelings.
…if your parents have broken agreements they made with you.
…if your parents don’t listen to you, or are not interested in what you have to say.
…if your parents associate with corrupt people and or/expect you to associate with corrupt people.
I left out a few, mainly anything related to sexual abuse (because why should you have to associate with people who abused you this profoundly), but much of what's listed here is tame.
You should stop associating with your parents if they spanked you? You should walk away from them if they were hypocrites and didn't follow their own rules? I didn't expect to get so angry reading this list, but the breakup of families is one of the main reasons the West is quite likely in an irreversible decline.
Molyneux is often brilliant and worth listening to, sure...but when I found out about deFOO I almost stopped listening to him out of sheer disgust.
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06-25-2017, 12:51 AM
/ /\nSeriously, has he mentioned any of that defooing stuff since about 2010?
Critics often bring that up but I don't honestly think he adheres to that line of thinking anymore.
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06-25-2017, 01:03 AM
I haven't heard he brought it up in public.
But does he have a private following where he does this preaching?
If I remember correctly Joe Rogan pressured him on these issues on his podcast a year ago. And he looked uncomfortable and cornered.
I do listen to him, he raises some interesting points. But I find him to uncharismatic to bear more than 20 min intervals.
And I don't like his "the truth about"-series. Not that humble. Few hours after some incident, you could be sure to find the "truth" on Stefan channel, where he go to all kinds of mental workout to make this fit into his world view.
He did teach me a bunch about bitcoin back in the days, so cheers for that.
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06-25-2017, 02:58 AM
Quote: (06-25-2017 01:03 AM)pants Wrote:
But does he have a private following where he does this preaching?
His freedomain something forum has a paid subscriberbase if I'm not mistaken?
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06-25-2017, 03:30 AM
Quote: (06-25-2017 12:04 AM)stugatz Wrote:
I am strongly bothered by his encouragement of "de-FOOing", or intentionally alienating yourself from family if you were raised poorly. Among the listed reasons to do it on a site associated with him, you should deFOO...
…if your parents have circumcised you.
…if your parents have assaulted you including; spanking, slapping, pinching, hitting, hitting with implements.
…if your parents yelled/were verbally abusive to you or others in the home.
…if your parents threatened to abandon you if you didn’t do what they asked.
…if your parents are irrational/hold religious beliefs and taught them to you as if they were fact.
…if your parents did not follow the moral rules they taught to you.
…if your parents do/did not respect your feelings or try to manipulate your feelings.
…if your parents have broken agreements they made with you.
…if your parents don’t listen to you, or are not interested in what you have to say.
…if your parents associate with corrupt people and or/expect you to associate with corrupt people.
I left out a few, mainly anything related to sexual abuse (because why should you have to associate with people who abused you this profoundly), but much of what's listed here is tame.
You should stop associating with your parents if they spanked you? You should walk away from them if they were hypocrites and didn't follow their own rules? I didn't expect to get so angry reading this list, but the breakup of families is one of the main reasons the West is quite likely in an irreversible decline.
Molyneux is often brilliant and worth listening to, sure...but when I found out about deFOO I almost stopped listening to him out of sheer disgust.
I guess you would tell a rape victim to go hug her rapist too. Talking about deFOOing when you have no point of reference for what you are criticising is pissweak, champ.
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06-25-2017, 08:09 AM
I don't understand the de-fooing criticism. He hasn't even brought it up on his YouTube channel during the last 3 years or more. He's evolved, and it's just not relevant. Frankly his trademark brand of atheist libertarianism is not even that relevant these days. He's all about the fight to preserve western civilisation.
Having said all that in his defense, he is a bit of an asshole, the worse for standing on "hey I'm all about reason and logic" whenever he wants to take apart a caller he doesn't like with all manner of grandstanding rhetorical techniques.
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06-25-2017, 08:12 AM
I've seen some references to this "deFOOing" stuff but having watched his videos for over a year now, I can't recall ever seeing the slightest reference to any of it. The examples given above seem like pretty weird reasons for disavowing your family, but I watch Stefan for the socio-political commentary, and I've never been to his forum or looked at the FDR website for more than five minutes.