[Nitro]

Title says it all. While she may have been insane in her personal life, as a kid who grew up a wrestling fan during Attitude Era, it's sad to see her go out like this. Speaking of which, what's up with all these WWE stars and drugs? R.I.P. Chyna.

http://www.tmz.com/2016/04/20/chyna-dead...gend-dies/

[Leonard D Neubache]

Scary motherfucking woman.

I don't find her particularly attractive but I'd have jumped at the opportunity for her to father sons for me (and even daughters, knowing they would not be fucked with lightly).

[Captainstabbin]

Are we expected to believe it was another "accidental" overdose? As if no one informed her of the danger of mixing alcohol, Xanax and Ambien.

[Nitro]

(04-21-2016 01:19 AM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

Are we expected to believe it was another "accidental" overdose? As if no one informed her of the danger of mixing alcohol, Xanax and Ambien.

I agree. She was allegedly prescribed both anxiety AND depression drugs. Considering how much of a wreck her personal life was I wouldn't be surprised if she intentionally committed suicide. Her demons won out in the end.

[GlobalMan]

delete

[RawGod]

Remember that report last year about the epidemic of deaths among middle-aged, less-educated white folks due to things like prescription meds, alcohol and similar things? She's like the poster child for that sad trend. Media should get on that angle. Hopelessness in Middle America.

[Clemmo]

Another Pro Wrestler who tragically died at a young age. This has been a problem for pro wrestling for years. A lethal combination of steroids, painkillers, and drug addictions have a large number of wrestlers dying at a young age.

http://prowrestling.wikia.com/wiki/Categ..._have_died

You can tell when she first appeared in the WWE. She looked like she took steroids or some type of growth hormone . Her features before the facial reconstruction were masculine.

[kinjutsu]

Not too mention after she left wrestling she did porn for a bit.
That couldn't have help with her mental state.

RIP

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-21-2016 02:33 AM)kinjutsu Wrote:  

Not too mention after she left wrestling she did porn for a bit.
That couldn't have help with her mental state.

RIP

The star of Another night in Chyna - took her life or her self-destructive lifestyle caught up with her:

http://www.pornhub.com/pornstar/chyna

At least she had an intense life filled with a roller-coaster of experiences. It probably did not make her happy, but she certainly did not have a boring uneventful one passing her by watching TV and gulping down a bag of chips while getting fat.

Personally I think that having wide experiences is better than having a boring life, because as Soul you learn more, but I guess it depends what you want.

However it is clear that women are unlikely to be overly fulfilled with such a life she has chosen - the masculine lifestyle is for men and women are badly suited for it.

[Space Cowboy]

Live fast die young...

5'10" 181, that's a lot of testosterone.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

"Speaking of which, what's up with all these WWE stars and drugs?"

Way, way back at the start of my journalism career, I covered some wrestling at the Baltimore Arena (or whatever it was called -- they keep changing the name). Although the storylines are scripted, the actual throwing around and slamming is real. I got to stand right outside the ring during a steel cage match when a guy named Harley Race was going crazy on some unfortunate opponent. Brutal stuff.

From what I gather, the drugs come into play first in the form of 'roids so these guys (and now girls) can bulk up. You have to look impressive.

After they start to get bashed around a bit, painkillers become the answer. While you might look at a specific match and think "That didn't look too bad," when a person has to do this night after night, it wears the body down and aches, pains, and injuries are inevitable. If you have to perform physically the next night, you can't be aching all over. Painkillers are a quick fix.

But, if you're sluggish from painkillers and a crowd is waiting, how do you get psyched? By taking some sort of other pill that will perk you up.

With all these drugs going into your system, addiction and/or overdose is almost inevitable. Some people can do this and remain unscathed -- like The Rock (I assume) and others like him. But not everyone is the Cal Ripken of wrestling. Most people can't live this kind of life and expect to live long.

[rungoodinc]

RIP

[[email protected]]

I was shocked to hear she was teaching English in Japan. That's what someone with no options does. I thought she would have cashed up from wrestling and retired with her savings but no...

[MdWanderer]

(04-21-2016 03:57 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Personally I think that having wide experiences is better than having a boring life, because as Soul you learn more, but I guess it depends what you want.

However it is clear that women are unlikely to be overly fulfilled with such a life she has chosen - the masculine lifestyle is for men and women are badly suited for it.

Good point, this has hit a lot of female wrestlers in particular, Miss Elizabeth, Luna Vachon, and now Chyna.

(04-21-2016 04:56 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

Way, way back at the start of my journalism career, I covered some wrestling at the Baltimore Arena (or whatever it was called -- they keep changing the name). Although the storylines are scripted, the actual throwing around and slamming is real. I got to stand right outside the ring during a steel cage match when a guy named Harley Race was going crazy on some unfortunate opponent. Brutal stuff.

From what I gather, the drugs come into play first in the form of 'roids so these guys (and now girls) can bulk up. You have to look impressive.

After they start to get bashed around a bit, painkillers become the answer. While you might look at a specific match and think "That didn't look too bad," when a person has to do this night after night, it wears the body down and aches, pains, and injuries are inevitable. If you have to perform physically the next night, you can't be aching all over. Painkillers are a quick fix.

But, if you're sluggish from painkillers and a crowd is waiting, how do you get psyched? By taking some sort of other pill that will perk you up.

With all these drugs going into your system, addiction and/or overdose is almost inevitable. Some people can do this and remain unscathed -- like The Rock (I assume) and others like him. But not everyone is the Cal Ripken of wrestling. Most people can't live this kind of life and expect to live long.

When Vince McMahon Jr. took over the WWE (then WWF) in the early 80s he stated that he wanted his wrestlers to look like "superheroes" hence the bulking up and rampant steroid and drug use. It can be hard to maintain an intense workout schedule then wrestle on top of that. A lot of the older wrestlers before when his dad owned the company who looked like average Joes from the street have been outliving the guys who wrestled in the 80s and 90s.

[Quintus Curtius]

It's just not worth it. It just isn't.

How many bodybuilders, wrestlers, and pro athletes have died at early ages from destroying their organs with steroids and drugs?

A lot, I think.

These people sell their souls (and bodies) for fame and fortune. And they can't even live long enough to enjoy it. What kind of life is this? The fool's life.

A good diet, some vitamins and nutrient supplements here and there, and a reasonable weight training regime. And that's about it, as far as I see it.

The hell with all that other crazy nonsense. But you'll never convince some people. The seduction of fame, power, and all the rest is just too great.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-21-2016 10:34 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

It's just not worth it. It just isn't.

How many bodybuilders, wrestlers, and pro athletes have died at early ages from destroying their organs with steroids and drugs?

A lot, I think.

These people sell their souls (and bodies) for fame and fortune. And they can't even live long enough to enjoy it. What kind of life is this? The fool's life.

A good diet, some vitamins and nutrient supplements here and there, and a reasonable weight training regime. And that's about it, as far as I see it.

The hell with all that other crazy nonsense. But you'll never convince some people. The seduction of fame, power, and all the rest is just too great.

The question here is whether those individuals would have otherwise achieved fame and wealth? The likelihood is very low - also in this specific example of Chyna. She was doing a lot of odd-jobs - what likely pushed her over the edge here was the fact that she had no children and no family.

As for men - in the past only the daring and risk-taking ones reproduced. The play-it-safe men did not even get women and had no progeny.

What's certainly not worth it is to take steroids, not do anything with it and be the lonely bodybuilder at home who is dead at 45.

[DamienCasanova]

This is not surprising at all. After seeing her bombed out of her mind on drugs doing the Howard Stern show, and doing hardcore porn, I thought it was only a matter of time before she was going to OD or have a heart attack.

[monster]

(04-21-2016 10:55 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

The question here is whether those individuals would have otherwise achieved fame and wealth? The likelihood is very low - also in this specific example of Chyna. She was doing a lot of odd-jobs - what likely pushed her over the edge here was the fact that she had no children and no family.

I think this is on the right track. MikeCF had a post on his blog about this recently w.r.t. Kobe Bryant's last game - where do you go form there? That's the prime of your life then all of a sudden, it's gone. Huge ego crush. Lots of free time. It's extremely hard to entire re-focus all your activities into "normal" things that normal people do to get by on a day to day basis when you have spent your entire waking life prior to pursuing basically something abnormal (full time sports professional, actor, musician, etc) and rewarded handsomely for it. 99% of any people cannot handle it on their own when they fade into obscurity. I know based on how long it takes me to develop coping skills I certainly could not survive if tomorrow I were a superstar and the next a complete nobody.

In Chyna's case, here she was a WWE star, having reports and fans want to interview her, then that kind of fell apart. She still needed to chase that dragon, did porn. But that caused lots of humiliation and embarrasement. Coped with drugs & alcohol. A series of poor life choices due to a combination of things: society rewarding & glamourizing weird ass shit (fake wrestling), lack of professional guidance post-fame, inability to cope on a personal level with "normalcy." It's both a structural/systemic society flaw and also a personal game issue too.

The ones who are go up in a flash of light also come down like a comet. The ones with the most fortitude and success later in life are the ones who have to fight for it every inch of the fucking way and only rewarded in little pieces at a time, allowing them to adapt and learn the necessary coping skills at a reasonable rate.

[Canopus]

She missed Wrestlecon a little under two weeks ago, and this is what they had to say about it:

Quote:

Just to give all of you an idea on how hard we worked to get her to Dallas, we received a call at 6am Friday saying she had missed her flight and no one could find her. When she was finally located at about 11am Dallas time, she was incoherent and not of proper mind. Through her slurring she asked that I please purchase a NEW airline ticket for her costing another $352 on top of the already $800+ that was spent on her and her manager to miss the first flight. Knowing how much Chyna meant to all of you we purchased the ticket again only to find out that night she checked into the airport but just never got on the plane.

That was 12 days ago. The writing was on the wall. It's a shame no one tried, or was able, to get her help before the end.

My memory as a teen wrestling fan is spotty, but the story goes that Chyna was actually involved with Triple H in real life when she came to the WWF in the 90s. However, they split in the early 2000s, when Triple H wifed up Vince McMahon's daughter, Stephanie. In the wrestling world, that's basically marrying the Princess. It inarguably secured Trips' career as a prominent performer in the company for the rest of his life - he's still one of the major characters even today, and I believe he's poised to take over the company when Vince steps down or passes on.

But Chyna never really got over it, and it's long been said to have been the major reason behind her departure from wrestling. I watched a couple interviews with her in later years where she brings up the relationship. As bitter and angry as she spoke about it - in fact, I remember a story where she claimed he'd beaten her during their time together - you could tell she carried an old and painful heartache over the breakup. Even today, I feel sad thinking about it. Like she clearly felt some devotion for the guy, and once it was gone, "devotion" as a concept changed for her. Trips distancing himself from her as much as possible only seemed to deepen it.(I'm not putting the blame on him for what came next, mind you. Just speculating that Chyna took the loss very, very hard and never made her peace with the pain.)

Her downward spiral of pills, porn, and sleaze afterward can make you forget that, at one point, she was by far the most popular female wrestler in the world. If Hulk Hogan was like a real-life superhero for kids, Chyna was a real-life Xena for the 90s crowd. Before she crashed into porn, she was courted for movie and TV deals, made (somewhat short-lived IIRC) fitness videos, and even got a Playboy shoot. Shit, she was even playable in those old WWF video games.

She and Tammy Sytch ("Sunny" from the 90s) might be two of the saddest stories in professional wrestling. She may have been a troubled and angry woman, but she was still a performer who made many people happy, and 46 is too young to go. I wish she'd been able to reconcile with her past and overcome her addictions. I hope she knew some moments of happiness before she passed.

RIP.

[Requiem]

If they're still speculating about the cause of death, I'd bet it's Trump's fault. Not only because he is to blame for everything that's on the news these days but also because he just kept talking shit about her until she finally couldn't take it anymore:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs

Too soon? I'm a bad person...

[Chowder Head]

I liked Chyna when she was in DX. She was a good wrestler too. I think this is the third or fourth former wrestler to die (in their 40s) this year. Its a grueling life that they lead.

[debeguiled]

I am slightly bothered by the fact she is taking attention away from the passing of Prince.

[Captainstabbin]

(04-21-2016 04:56 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

After they start to get bashed around a bit, painkillers become the answer. While you might look at a specific match and think "That didn't look too bad," when a person has to do this night after night, it wears the body down and aches, pains, and injuries are inevitable. If you have to perform physically the next night, you can't be aching all over. Painkillers are a quick fix.

Ever watch Lucha Underground? I'm surprised they live through an average match.


Turn down the volume, the music sucks:

[kbell]

Why is everybody named Chyna, freakish looking?

[kinjutsu]

I remember a few years ago she was being interviewed about her time in the WWF/WWE.
She was saying that she didn't get paid very well compared to the other wrestlers, but wouldn't give specific numbers.
She also said to you an idea of how much she was getting paid the amount playboy paid her for the single spread she did was moe than what the WWE had paid her for the year.