[RedPillUK]

That phrase is so sick and mentally unhealthy I don't even like seeing it as a thread title so I had to come in and say something. Only someone who doesn't understand people would believe this. You will never make any friends with this mentality, take this view if you want to be a lonely sociopath for the rest of your life.

I can't really think of any purely good deeds that I've done that I've been punished for off the top of my head, however I don't normally do good deeds for people that I don't know or might fuck me over.

Also the amount of value that's been added to my life by doing good things for people has been truly spectacular and unexpected. Sometimes you make friends with someone by chance, they offer you a beer, you meet up again next time you turn up with your own beer, then they offer you their place to stay. A lot of good friendships are formed this way.

If your so called good deeds are punishing you, you might want to look at what you're doing and who you're doing it for.

[Walker]

(05-16-2016 05:51 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

My Grandfather had a good rule:

Buy the first drink, cigar or meal and then see how if and when they reciprocate.

No reciprocity - never say a word just cut them out of your life.

Example if I take a woman out for a romantic dinner...

I fully expect her to invite me over within a week for a home cooked meal (No - Chinese take out does not matter), netflix and chill... otherwise next plate in the stack.

Now that women earn their own money this rule sucks.

In 2016 you start by having her pay for the first outing, then reciprocate if she does it without breaking your balls.

[kavakid]

When a woman first meets a guy, will she trust him more if he is :
A) arrogant and self centered.
B) nice and accommodating.

And which one is she more likely to be attracted to, at first?

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A. Arrogant and self centered.

Why does she trust him more? Because he's probably being his authentic self so at least she knows what she's getting. He's not going out of his way to please her so he probably doesn't have ulterior motives.

The nice guy could be really nice. Or he could be a creep who will turn into a stalker etc. He may be acting just to get in her pants.

Why is she attracted to the arrogant guy? Because he probably doesn't need her for validation. He's more likely to have plenty of dating options. He doesn't care if she likes him and that's a turn on.

Now, there is a balance. Obviously you can't be self centered all the time. And you should help people out when warranted, especially if you're in a relationship. And some women want a nicer guy, and others don't.

I aim for nice, but strong.

I don't need to be an asshole just to prove I don't need her. But if she needs help for some minor thing, I will make jokes and generally make it entertaining for myself while encouraging her to handle it on her own. The longer I've known her the more I'm likely to go out of my way to help.

[Khan]

I disagree with that phrase, it has a nearly hamster-like sound to it.

Yesterday, while waiting in the checkout line in a supermarket, I let a group of construction workers move in front of me. I had a full cart, they had just a couple of lunch items. I thought to myself, why should they waste 5 minutes of their hard-earned lunch break while waiting for me to finish unloading and paying, so I let them move in front.

According to the phrase, that was a beta move and I'm supposed to get punished for it. Come on, what a load of rubbish. Anyone who has such an outlook on life should get it out of his system asap, it won't do him any good that's for sure.

[Dalaran1991]

Any who believes that saying needs to ask himself « have I benefitted from good deeds done to me by other people ? »

I know that I wouldn’t be where I am today without the innumerable help and generosity of many people, to whom I’m always ever grateful, and I have remained friends with them until this day. Some of them were strangers when we met. Not to mention help from many RVF whom I've never met.

I started a thread about kindness and being a redpill man, and its good to see most members do not think they are exclusive:

thread-51366.html

TL, DR: One day I was in the metro and there was this family, the little girl was crying. So I took a napkin and gave it to her. The smile that blossoms from her face and the tears washing off were among the most beautiful things I’ve seen in my life. Talked to the family, they’ve just been robbed. Good experience for both parties. It costs me what? A napkin to brighten a child’s day?

I think those of us who are in a position/situation to exert generosity should do so, selectively of course. The world is shitty enough as it is and we don’t need to contribute more to the misery.

Of course, we are sensible enough (I hope) to know the difference between generosity and badshit insane white knighting. That ex-marine who tries to “save” a woman then getting shot was not generous, he was dumb, arrogant and reckless.