Feminist says Batman v Supernan is male patriarchy. Female characters are helpless.
03-30-2016, 01:35 AM
Zach Snyder already directed a feminist grrrl power fantasy it was called Sucker Punch and it flopped hard.
Quote: (03-30-2016 01:35 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:
Zach Snyder already directed a feminist grrrl power fantasy it was called Sucker Punch and it flopped hard.
Quote: (03-30-2016 01:40 AM)weambulance Wrote:
Quote: (03-30-2016 01:35 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:
Zach Snyder already directed a feminist grrrl power fantasy it was called Sucker Punch and it flopped hard.
Did you see it? The fantasy bit is right, but given what happens to the protagonist I don't think the grrl power bit fits. I liked it, though the ending was disturbing.
Quote: (03-30-2016 01:42 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:
Quote: (03-30-2016 01:40 AM)weambulance Wrote:
Quote: (03-30-2016 01:35 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:
Zach Snyder already directed a feminist grrrl power fantasy it was called Sucker Punch and it flopped hard.
Did you see it? The fantasy bit is right, but given what happens to the protagonist I don't think the grrl power bit fits. I liked it, though the ending was disturbing.
Honestly I got about halfway in and turned it off, is it worth watching all the way through?
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I was particularly disappointed that over the years, while male superheroes have grown to be more muscular, technological and even middle-aged — Wonder Woman has stayed much the same.
Quote: (03-30-2016 01:35 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:
Zach Snyder already directed a feminist grrrl power fantasy it was called Sucker Punch and it flopped hard.
Quote: (03-30-2016 05:53 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:
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I was particularly disappointed that over the years, while male superheroes have grown to be more muscular, technological and even middle-aged — Wonder Woman has stayed much the same.
Quote: (03-30-2016 09:35 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:
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I was particularly disappointed that over the years, while male superheroes have grown to be more muscular, technological and even middle-aged — Wonder Woman has stayed much the same.
Wonder Woman has stayed the same mainly because in most versions of the character she's the child of the fucking Greek gods. She's practically immortal. About the oldest she's ever been was in Mark Waid's (glorious) take on the character in Kingdom Come ... in which Bruce Wayne has white hair, Superman is just about to enter the look of a fortysomething guy, and she -- at the very end of the story -- gets her first white hair.
This is like complaining that though Iron Man has gone through about 20 versions of his armour, Thor is still wielding a hammer and wearing winged helmets.
Me, one of my favourite takes on the character was the XXX parody version:
The same porn actress did a porn parody version of Agent Scully. The costume alone had more production values than most attempts at Wonder Woman on TV.
Quote: (03-30-2016 04:47 AM)weambulance Wrote:
Quote: (03-30-2016 01:42 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:
Quote: (03-30-2016 01:40 AM)weambulance Wrote:
Quote: (03-30-2016 01:35 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:
Zach Snyder already directed a feminist grrrl power fantasy it was called Sucker Punch and it flopped hard.
Did you see it? The fantasy bit is right, but given what happens to the protagonist I don't think the grrl power bit fits. I liked it, though the ending was disturbing.
Honestly I got about halfway in and turned it off, is it worth watching all the way through?
I just rewatched it. First of all, I'm not the most critical movie viewer. I can forgive certain weaknesses because I just fill them in mentally, and as such there are lots of movies I enjoy that don't do that well with the general public.
It was better than I remembered, actually. The ending is good and not obvious, and not really disturbing as it turns out. It all ties together at the end. I don't want to say anything about the plot since I don't know how far you got, but I stand by my assertion that it is not a grrl power movie.
Good cast, no real weaknesses there. Carla Gugino and Oscar Isaac are high on my list, and I wasn't sorry to watch Emily Browning* run around in sexy outfits the whole time.
It was visually pleasing in all respects, and some of the actions sequences were very cool. Others were fucking irritating with the constant slow motion when it wasn't really called for. I appreciated the generally good gun handling by sexy women, and the fight choreography was solid (though there was obviously artistic license taken). The girls being badass was fine because it clearly wasn't meant to be real.
I suspect it got panned because it was kind of confusing until the last 10 minutes, and it came out like 9 months after Inception so people say it was a ripoff simply because both stories largely took place in the minds of the characters. Nevermind that the technique wasn't invented with Inception, and the plots had essentially nothing in common.
* I like Emily Browning a lot, but she has got to be one of the worst cases of short hair ugliness I've ever seen. I thought Ginnifer Goodwin was bad, since she looks like a fucking goblin with short hair, but observe:
Good, I like the blonde hair. Of course she's made up.
Still pretty good, could use some eyeliner or something to darken her eyes. I'm a sucker for pale brunettes.
Ehhh...
Why would you do this?
I'm way off on a tangent now, but seriously, what the fuck. Why do these girls with round faces ever cut their hair? That shit is never going to look good. If you're a chick and your name isn't Morena Baccarin or Halle Berry, you really need to keep your hair at least shoulder length and preferably to mid back. Do these actresses all sign a contract when they get to Hollywood that they must get a terrible short haircut at some point?
Quote: (03-29-2016 11:09 PM)Suits Wrote:
Why do these feminists need to pitch a fit every time someone undermines their little fantasy?
Quote: (03-31-2016 10:42 AM)Moto Wrote:
How are female characters helpless?
Spoiler alert*
The damned movie ended up being Wonder Woman vs. the Shit Demon. I always hoped I'd see the glorious return of the Shit Demon from Dogma.