[Genghis Khan]

In college, I didn't go out much until senior year. Late-bloomer. Actually met tons of girls senior year, but I didn't know how to escalate. There were some girls who I'd know for a while and was friends with, mostly because they used to date my friends. For example, one girl I knew (who had just broken up with my friend) kissed me on the cheek in a college bar as we were talking and said 'if only you were like this freshman year'. Another girl, we got along with each other super well, though she was dating a close friend of mine until a month before I graduated. I don't think I ever acted like a supplicant male. I wasn't a beta orbiter, never gave them tons of attention unlike other guys in my social group (who of course never got with these girls).

Anyway I moved out of state for a few years and now I'm back in the biggest city. Hit up a few of these girls. It's been about five years since I've seen some of them in person. Had a bit of 'whatchu been upto' convo going with them, very positive responses and a few asked what my plans for Christmas/NYE time were.

Question: is it possible for me to bang them. Or am I effectively in the friend? I don't mind staying friends with them (they're cool cats), but blame it on regret of missing in college if you like: if I can, I want to bang them. A lot of the advice on this forum is focused on getting bangs with girls you're interested in from the get-go. Was wondering if people have had experience banging girls they know from years ago, but as friends.

Maybe too much info, but my biggest fear is that I'll try to kiss/escalate/touch/whatever and it'll backfire badly. Also, still new to game (had to spend a couple of years getting in shape, changing awful haircut, dressing better, being less of a social idiot). So wondering if I'm potentially setting myself up for a disaster.

[Tex]

You're never setting yourself up for disaster by taking a chance. It might backfire, but never as badly as you think it will.

In Day Bang, Roosh talks about visualizing the worst possible outcomes and walking through them just to internalize how mild and insignificant they are. I mean really, let's say you go to escalate and you get slapped. Well fuck it man, you already went five years without seeing these girls, go another five.

Self-improvement is always on-going and you may never feel "ready." Great style, good looks, big muscles, and a fat wallet help with confidence, but alone they will never make you feel "ready." Only experience does that.

This year I restarted a thing that I've been going at on and off with for years with an old high school crush. One night I said fuck it and escalated hard. That's the night I got the bang. I say go out and escalate hard on every one. Chances are you'll at least get some action, and you'll get easy experience regardless. Living in a small town outside of New Orleans since I'm on break from college, I have to drive a long ways and spend considerable gas money just to get to approach. You're lucky. Just nut up and blast these girls and soak in all the knowledge you can. It'll be an adventure if anything.

The amount of money a dead man would pay—to feel his heart race the way yours will when you hit up these girls—would be unimaginable. You have a dick. You have a beating heart. You have options. And you've got a forum to go back to in case you need to laugh a bad experience off, or in case you want to share your success. So go get some pussy.

The key with girls you already know is to not to let their ideas and preconceptions about you intimidate you. Do not assume they see you a certain way and then fall into that character because you're trying too hard to figure out how she sees you now. Walk in that bitch like you're a millionaire going back to the shit hole small town you grew up in. Your value has increased and you're all business with your fun now—you want to keep it light, exhude confidence, show you're relaxed and make her know what you're there for.

These are the kinds of things girls fantasize about. Appear from out of the blue after a five year absence, take control early on, shock her with your relaxed confidence, and walk in there with a logistics plan so you can seamlessly pull her to a place to escalate hard. Already be touching her by the time you leave the first venue.

The thing about girls who already know you is after a long absence, they're usually easier to impress. Girls are fairly receptive to self-improvement after a long absence, especially if that improvement is a positive shift in personality.

[Saweeep]

If you're gonna do it, do it quickly.

I'm 33 and pretty much every girl i went to school with is now a post wall hag.

[heavy]

The forever friend-zone idea applies to the short term...shorter term than a decade. Actually shorter term than 5 years. Especially if you haven't seen each other in a while.

The answer is yes, it *may be possible* for you to bang them at some point. Every man's SMV (sexual market value) will intersect the with those of his peer chic friends. Normally this happens early 30s. If you're Mr Alpha, it happens earlier. If you're a pussy beta, it may not happen till 45. If your chic friend is Christie Brinkley, you would have had to wait until she over 50.

The reason I use the term *may be possible* above is because women still and always will be the gatekeepers of sex. So while you may have surpassed them in desirability, if they're all happily married or for some reason they just don't wanna bang you, they won't.

SMV is a macro concept.
A woman or group of women are still case-by-case. They still control the interaction, even if they're the underdog.

Just because I'm selling something really valuable for cheap doesn't mean every person wants it.

Proceed as the friend, but tease them, push pull, ambiguous flirting...game on. Keep everything plausibly deniable within social circles.

[AneroidOcean]

(12-17-2015 02:19 AM)Genghis Khan Wrote:  

In college, I didn't go out much until senior year. Late-bloomer.

You have a chance to re-invent yourself in their eyes. Flirt, tell them you are looking to only go to the best New Year's Eve party to have a great time and bring in the new year with a bang. Leave the rest to their imagination. Find out what the great parties are going to be, tell them you might stop by, check out parties, find the best one, stay there for midnight.

Simple formula really. If you end up actually kissing/banging any of them great, if not, you found the best party and hopefully kissed or banged someone at that party.

Bring a bottle of almond champagne and maybe some high end (but not that expensive if you bought it in the store) liquor that you can hand out shots of at the party, make it a good time right away and open people up with them thinking you're cool from the get go.

[Virtus]

It's easier to bang girls you've been on the radar of. Even if you were out of range for a while there is a sense of familiarity