[Phatom]

Hey guys,
I've been browsing on OkCupid and POF. And there are some girls who have I've met who are DTF but have boyfriends. Yet, her boyfriend must be the most Omega bastard ever, since he wants her to have sex with other guys. WTF.

Now, if I had a girlfriend I would never let her do this, therefore, based on my principles, it seems messed up for me to agree. But I don't know have you guys ever been in a similar experience?

[pitt]

A good number of the girls I banged had boyfriends. If they are not your male friends, you shouldn't care.

[HankMoody]

No. This is how it will go down...

If you're not a skilled casanova, she'll constantly compare you to her boyfriend. "He does this and that", "I'm so confused which of you I like better", "he buys me blah blah blah and you don't" in an attempt to make both idiot guys fight over her. The two of you will literally try and "out beta" each other to "win her heart." She loves having the attention of two guys, but isn't that into either of you. At the same time, unbeknownst to either, she is also sucking the cock of some alpha who could care less about her drama, hoping he will come around and commit.

If you are a skilled casanova, she'll quickly fall in love. She'll be confused about why you don't buy her things, take her out, or listen to her bullshit. She will hint that she would leave him in a heartbeat, but she feels like you're a player. You run the risk of this dude wanting to fight you or do something stupid over a used whore. You also run the risk if her slashing your tires and getting crazy when she finds out you're not that into it. These are the type of girls who make fake rape allegations in order to justify their actions to the boyfriend.

I avoid that shit altogether. A girl who wants to bang multiple dudes at one is simply an unhappy attention whore who wants to have her cake and eat it too. She craves the attention or two guys fighting over her, while at the same time desiring someone more "alpha." There are plenty of single chicks out there with way less drama to deal with.

[The Black Knight]

(10-18-2015 09:45 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

No. This is how it will go down...

If you're not a skilled casanova, she'll constantly compare you to her boyfriend. "He does this and that", "I'm so confused which of you I like better", "he buys me blah blah blah and you don't" in an attempt to make both idiot guys fight over her. The two of you will literally try and "out beta" each other to "win her heart." She loves having the attention of two guys, but isn't that into either of you. At the same time, unbeknownst to either, she is also sucking the cock of some alpha who could care less about her drama, hoping he will come around and commit.

If you are a skilled casanova, she'll quickly fall in love. She'll be confused about why you don't buy her things, take her out, or listen to her bullshit. She will hint that she would leave him in a heartbeat, but she feels like you're a player. You run the risk of this dude wanting to fight you or do something stupid over a used whore. You also run the risk if her slashing your tires and getting crazy when she finds out you're not that into it. These are the type of girls who make fake rape allegations in order to justify their actions to the boyfriend.

I avoid that shit altogether. A girl who wants to bang multiple dudes at one is simply an unhappy attention whore who wants to have her cake and eat it too. She craves the attention or two guys fighting over her, while at the same time desiring someone more "alpha." There are plenty of single chicks out there with way less drama to deal with.

I'm just going to piggyback and confirm what he said:

In 2015 America, it's bad news. Girl can sell you at anytime to save face and slap you with a false DV/rape charge. Many guys, especially blue pill type of guys (the majority), will want to seek out violence against you if they get wind of things. They will place no blame on their respective LTR slut and her bullshit behavior.

That said, if you ARE going to do it: hardcore CIA clandestine covert op rules apply.

Fake name, burner number/phone connected to nothing (phone bought with cash), fake e-mail used for nothing else (this includes the e-mail used to make your online dating profile). Dating profile should have nothing identifying; especially head shots, job titles, or educational background. When the girl wants full pics, use snapchat (not perfect but good enough for most purposes). This should all be done on burner smartphone internet or public wifi; not on ANY network connected to home broadband network.

Location at least 45 minutes from either person's hometown (exception: if living in a very crowded city, can meet in different part of city; cannot be anywhere near either persons normal hood though). Meet in crowded place with people around it blend to in. A low-lit restaurant with a booth in the corner away from the street windows is ideal. Sit with backside against wall; nothing should be behind you. Virtually no one should be able identify the woman's face aside from you and the waiter. Take public transport or if using your own POV, park it at least 5-10 minutes away from meeting place (no trace on car plates). Go straight from meeting place to hotel (hotel should be register under fake name; paid with cash). Do not wander the fuck around town. All actual ID/credit card/etc credentials and anything that can be use to identify you should be locked in hotel safe box and remain there until bitch is gone. All you should have on you is cash and a burner phone during the entire meeting process. Zero texting for all communication (no way to verify its not the boyfriend or someone else). Wear a rubber, twist knot and flush immediately.

I am only half joking but you really do need to watch your ass.

..... Or you could just date single women.

[Dalaran1991]

I wouldn't go out of my way to do it because of the extra work, but otherwise it's a no-brainer.

Twice I slept with girls who didn't mention anything about their boyfriend, only to tell me about it later. Who cares?

Understand: if you can sleep with somebody's LTR, there wasn't any LTR in place. She's a slut and he's a fucking loser (I'm generalizing but let's call it that) You are not responsible for the well being of a LTR not of your own.

Hell, you might even wake a fellow men from the blue pill.

As far as what other posters said, precaution should always be taken with all girls. No real name, address or identity.

Don't worry too much about guys getting revenge. Most guys are so pussy whipped and wouldn't risk violence. That said don't go swooping some LTR of a drug dealer or someone with a big rap sheet.

Quote:

Or you could just date single women

The fact that she is single or not should have no impact on your decision. In fact, it's rare in a typical pick up to even know about the girl's carousel situation at all.

[The Black Knight]

(10-19-2015 05:48 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

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Or you could just date single women

The fact that she is single or not should have no impact on your decision. In fact, it's rare in a typical pick up to even know about the girl's carousel situation at all.

Completely disagree. I am assuming you are in France based on your profile flag? If I was in France, yeah, I wouldn't give a fuck either. Different culture and attitudes toward side action.

USA/UK/Canada/Australia militant feminist courts that believe any random slut who cries wolf, however? I'd be very careful. There are plenty of cases of guys who banged chicks in LTRs (with full consent) only to have the slut backtrack and claim rape or whatever to save face among friends/family and her BF/husband when exposed or caught.

[cascadecombo]

Been in your shoes and went ahead with it. As long as youre not trying to date em, pump n dump.

A lot of times they have a guy just to have one, women are more afraid of being alone in that case but are more than willing to branch swing. Heck most the better ones will be locked down anyway.

[Gmac]

The title of this thread should probably be "Would you 'knowingly' have sex with some guy's LTR girlfriend?" Because I guarantee you most of you have already done so otherwise.

[Dr. Howard]

(10-19-2015 04:17 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

(10-18-2015 09:45 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

No. This is how it will go down...

If you're not a skilled casanova, she'll constantly compare you to her boyfriend. "He does this and that", "I'm so confused which of you I like better", "he buys me blah blah blah and you don't" in an attempt to make both idiot guys fight over her. The two of you will literally try and "out beta" each other to "win her heart." She loves having the attention of two guys, but isn't that into either of you. At the same time, unbeknownst to either, she is also sucking the cock of some alpha who could care less about her drama, hoping he will come around and commit.

If you are a skilled casanova, she'll quickly fall in love. She'll be confused about why you don't buy her things, take her out, or listen to her bullshit. She will hint that she would leave him in a heartbeat, but she feels like you're a player. You run the risk of this dude wanting to fight you or do something stupid over a used whore. You also run the risk if her slashing your tires and getting crazy when she finds out you're not that into it. These are the type of girls who make fake rape allegations in order to justify their actions to the boyfriend.

I avoid that shit altogether. A girl who wants to bang multiple dudes at one is simply an unhappy attention whore who wants to have her cake and eat it too. She craves the attention or two guys fighting over her, while at the same time desiring someone more "alpha." There are plenty of single chicks out there with way less drama to deal with.

I'm just going to piggyback and confirm what he said:

In 2015 America, it's bad news. Girl can sell you at anytime to save face and slap you with a false DV/rape charge. Many guys, especially blue pill type of guys (the majority), will want to seek out violence against you if they get wind of things. They will place no blame on their respective LTR slut and her bullshit behavior.

That said, if you ARE going to do it: hardcore CIA clandestine covert op rules apply.

Fake name, burner number/phone connected to nothing (phone bought with cash), fake e-mail used for nothing else (this includes the e-mail used to make your online dating profile). Dating profile should have nothing identifying; especially head shots, job titles, or educational background. When the girl wants full pics, use snapchat (not perfect but good enough for most purposes). This should all be done on burner smartphone internet or public wifi; not on ANY network connected to home broadband network.

Location at least 45 minutes from either person's hometown (exception: if living in a very crowded city, can meet in different part of city; cannot be anywhere near either persons normal hood though). Meet in crowded place with people around it blend to in. A low-lit restaurant with a booth in the corner away from the street windows is ideal. Sit with backside against wall; nothing should be behind you. Virtually no one should be able identify the woman's face aside from you and the waiter. Take public transport or if using your own POV, park it at least 5-10 minutes away from meeting place (no trace on car plates). Go straight from meeting place to hotel (hotel should be register under fake name; paid with cash). Do not wander the fuck around town. All actual ID/credit card/etc credentials and anything that can be use to identify you should be locked in hotel safe box and remain there until bitch is gone. All you should have on you is cash and a burner phone during the entire meeting process. Zero texting for all communication (no way to verify its not the boyfriend or someone else). Wear a rubber, twist knot and flush immediately.

I am only half joking but you really do need to watch your ass.

..... Or you could just date single women.

I'll add onto this also. I would avoid it, not out of some sort of moral respect for the boyfriend but out of concern for your own safety and drama avoidance.

If a girl doesn't tell you that she has a boyfriend or husband, there's not much you can do about that. The girls that do that are usually monkey branchers/looking for an exit anyway so its USUALLY not a big deal.

If a girl lets you know that she's in an LTR or married etc. Someone is going to have a meltdown. Either the boyfriend/husband when he finds out or the girl when she gets caught or the girl when she thinks that you are going to be her savior/landing pad and you are not.

One of the things above WILL happen at some point, especially if a cheating girl is into you. She starts to get lazy/careless. Once a blowup happens, it will spill over into your life.

I went through a spell of banging married women/girls with boyfriends and though the sex is great the constant paranoia and drama is not. The same effect can often be achieved by banging new divorcees as they are also dick crazy.

[HankMoody]

Just to add...

There is nothing immoral about sleeping with a girl who has a boyfriend. If she's cheating on him, chances are it's because his game sucks. Women don't cheat on men who they respect.

However, you have to look at it like this - pussy is available in abundance. You can get it at the swipe of a thumb these days. It's just as available as milk and bread. Given that's the case, there's no need to get pussy at the expense of added drama. And let's be real here - kids add drama. Boyfriends add drama. Ex-husbands add drama.

Avoid all of it. There's no need. There is an abundance of hot, single, young chicks out there without any of that who are DTF. Why dumpster dive?

[CleanSlate]

Personally I don't go out of my way to sleep with girls who have boyfriends or husbands, but it happens. Usually she tells me after the fact.

Plus it also depends on how deep she is into the LTR...

If she's just dating, then I don't really consider her in an LTR and game on as normal.
If she has a new boyfriend whom she's been seeing for 1-3 months, she's usually so in love with him and my game is far from strong enough to break the spell she's under. So I let it go.
If she's in a true LTR or marriage, and she tells me before we have sex, I let it go as well.

The last thing I want to do is help some cheating whore blow up her family, with her kids as collateral damage.

[Ethan Hunt]

I've done it knowingly three times. 2 were in LTRs and one was married.

First one I had been speaking to a few times and had seen her twice before, second time I met her she tossed me off and I had met her boyfriend. She sent me a message saying she was horny and wanted to fuck me. I declined but she offered to cover my travel expenses (30 mile drive or so) so I did. We couldn't fuck in her house so we fucked in the back of the car. There was no drama.

The second was some local slut who regularly fucked other guys. I was at home taking a nap in the afternoon but decided to shoot her a message seeing what she was doing. She came over and I fucked her during a movie. I went out drinking that night and she came out too with her boyfriend. Her boyfriend kept coming up to me and asking questions. I denied everything, he seemed okay with that. Then throughout the night he kept coming up to me again and saying that his girlfriend wanted to talk to me. I never did talk to her. Then I got a voicemail in the morning with her crying down the phone about some shit.

With the married woman I was in a bar the I used to go to a lot. I saw this really sexy woman in a tight dress and texted my friend about her. He came out and I was talking to her and her friend when he came in. She had been at a wedding but thought the wedding reception was boring so came out into town. Unbeknown to me at the time my friend show her my text message. She said "it's really nice to go out to a bar and talk to some guys without feeling like they're hitting on me". My friend asked her how happy she was in her marriage and it turns out not so happy. We talked, danced, kissed and when the bar closed went to the bar at her hotel. Her husband never attended the wedding so by friend went home and I went with the married woman to her hotel room. There was no drama.

From my own experiences there can be drama but it depends on how discreet you are.

[kaotic]

Yup, I've banged a few in an LTR.

An old coworker, we fucked a few times, I knew she was on and off with a guy, still banged. Then she got a serious BF. She was also moving in a month.

Swooped her up, grabbed a few drinks, we banged at her parents pad, nutted in her.

Her BF knocked on the door, I jetted out the back in some bushes. Heard her arguing with the guy. Long story short - I had some kids give me a ride out of the neighborhood, bought them booze, they dropped me back off at my whip and the dude ran out and chased me away.

I was a little beta and let the cops know what happened, female cop called me back, told me she was bad news.

Interesting enough she had a kid about 9 months after (Pretty sure it's not mine).

I also banged another girl who had boyfriend stationed overseas - felt kind of bad but we banged twice, shit happens. No drama.


If it falls in my lap sure I'll take it, cause some other guy will. I don't go out looking for it.

It can be done with drama, especially if you've met the girl in person - I'm not sure I'd fuck with anyone online.

[Phatom]

I decided not to do it. It goes against my principles and I am sure that guy must have worked hard for the girl. Also, my uncle-who's a professional athlete- got offered once to fuck some dude's wife. The husband himself offered him that. It always stuck in my mind, whenever to do that or not. Would you cuckold a beta dude?

[eatthishomie]

There's a good chance that she'll falsely accuse you of rape, or you'll have to fight or BF, or both. Do you really want to invite that kind of drama into your life?

If a girl tells me her husband has a cuck fetish I'll pop a Cialis (so I can stay hard for hours and really blow her fucking back out) and get to work.

[kaotic]

(10-21-2015 09:07 PM)Phatom Wrote:  

I decided not to do it. It goes against my principles and I am sure that guy must have worked hard for the girl. Also, my uncle-who's a professional athlete- got offered once to fuck some dude's wife. The husband himself offered him that. It always stuck in my mind, whenever to do that or not. Would you cuckold a beta dude?

Good for you sticking to them. You're a better man for it.

Honestly no, I probably wouldn't, MAYBE if the woman was a smoke show. Maybe.

[PapayaTapper]

I've never knowingly banged another dude's serious GF or wife but I'd be lying if I said I definitively hadn't. I'm under no illusions that over the years at least some if not most of the random, coked out, drunk, bitches I've stuck my shank in probably were cheating on a guy who had no fucking clue. But knowingly...no. Bad karma IMO

[Belgrano]

The strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must.

If a girl in a LTR is open to getting fucked, she will get fucked. If it´s not you, then the next guy. You are not a charity or welfare program handing out easy pussy to your fellow men in need, so proceed to pump and dump. Then disappear.

Exception: There are children in the relationship.
No need to ruin a family for pussy.

[Yatagan]

(10-22-2015 05:18 AM)Celtic_Austrian Wrote:  

The strong do what they can, the weak suffer what they must.

If a girl in a LTR is open to getting fucked, she will get fucked. If it´s not you, then the next guy. You are not a charity or welfare program handing out easy pussy to your fellow men in need, so proceed to pump and dump. Then disappear.

Exception: There are children in the relationship.
No need to ruin a family for pussy.

Right, if she's going to fuck around on her dude, then fuck it, might as well make it me, but I wouldn't pursue things further than a handful of bangs.

Naturally, i wouldn't do it if the bf/husband in question was a friend,acquaintance or co-worker of mine. Basically, if the guy is some abstract concept, then I don't give a shit.

[Mr Finish]

Last time I did this the girl went full stalker on me.
Thankfully no slashed tires or false rape allegations, but she would blow up my (burner) cell, show up unannounced, and "just happen to be" at the same places as me at the same time. I'm no skilled Casanova but I just ignored her (didn't answer calls, didn't open the door, didn't acknowledge her when we crossed paths) and it died down.

[PapayaTapper]

(10-27-2015 07:31 PM)Mr Finish Wrote:  

Last time I did this the girl went full stalker on me.
Thankfully no slashed tires or false rape allegations, but she would blow up my (burner) cell, show up unannounced, and "just happen to be" at the same places as me at the same time. I'm no skilled Casanova but I just ignored her (didn't answer calls, didn't open the door, didn't acknowledge her when we crossed paths) and it died down.

Next time a girl starts to go "stalker" on you just go with it. The above is what makes it worse. Start calling/texting her 4-5 a day, acting all needy and super into her...then watch how fast she is "over it" and your problem is solved.

[Mr Finish]

I'll go with this next time thanks

[wi30]

Every time I've banged a girl in an LTR:
1. She threw herself at me. No direct game whatsoever.
2. Didn't know she had a boyfriend at the time of coitus.
3. Boyfriend lived in another city.

[zaqan]

If he is a friend, no.
If he is not, sucks to be him.

I have had a few opportunities, but I either did not know what to do, or was in an environment that added so much extra risk to a risky proposition (eg work), so I never did it.

[brob]

Agree with the consensus here.

If he's a friend, no.

But if not: if she's going to cheat then she's going to cheat. May as well be with you. I also agree about the potential for drama may not be worth it. So weigh that against how bad you want to fuck her and if you really want it then go for it.