Quote: (09-25-2015 07:25 PM)Easy_C Wrote:
Quote: (09-25-2015 06:54 PM)ManVsMachine Wrote:
Flame bait? Cute quote, but doesn't work here. The notion that some intangible "masculine energy" is "depleted" from masturbation has been disproven by science time and time again (sources cited in article):
Step 1: Go to the lifestyle sub forum.
Step 2: Read the "nofap" thread and look at the results other dudes have had as soon as they stopped masturbating.
So, YMMV. Gotcha. For me, my peak hunting range is 3-6 days after, no more, no less. Irrelevant.
This is where things get amusing:
Quote: (09-25-2015 07:25 PM)Easy_C Wrote:
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There are minimal benefits to abstinence (complete abstinence):
http://examine.com/faq/does-ejaculation-...ne-levels/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788
But those effects drop off after a period of time (note acute as opposed to chronic abstinence)
You're setting up a convenient strawman founded in a false dilemma fallacy.
No, your options are not just complete abstinence or masturbation. You'd know better than that from experience if you had the discipline to quit jacking off.
Ok, its clear you didn't read the links I provided, nor did you read my post, because they do not paint the situation as being "black or white." In fact, "false dilemma fallacy" couldn't be
further from the truth. Testosterone, which, I'm led to believe is a fundamental element of your abstract concept of "masculine energy", is in a state of flux. I even provided an NIH study which concluded that testosterone levels increase after an acute period of abstinence.
If you find "masculine energy" to be something else, clarify it. Latin only shows me you know how to read Wikipedia.
A false dilemma fallacy is defined as: "A false dilemma is a type of informal fallacy that involves a situation in which only limited alternatives are considered, when in fact there is at least one additional option. The opposite of this fallacy is argument to moderation."
Not only is your Latin scarcely applicable, but also consider the fact that man's relationship with his testosterone is far more complex than to be painted black or white - which my sources have validated.
Moreover, the "strawman" claim is completely wrong. You claimed the following:
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, but to ensure that male sexual energy is wasted and dissipated....hence the reason they've been pushing pornography and male masturbation aids.
It's about disempowering males, because every example in history of an effective rebellion was the result of alpha males banding together when the time was right. When you feminize the males, depriving them of their aggression and getting them to deplete their masculine energy into a napkin(or a fleshlight, or a sexbot) you make them more submissive and ensure that they will embrace their role as slaves.
So no. Expect the elite to embrace the spread of sexbots and help it along.
Your main assertion is that depleting "masculine energy" into a napkin, you make them more submissive. Their[the "elites"] goal is to feminize the males to avoid rebellion, No?
My entire post, above, argues against this concept of a loss of masculine energy. And I didn't disagree that reducing male power is a goal - we present two different implementations as such. It is equally a "false dilemma fallacy" to believe that men with sexbots will relegate themselves to a basement 24/7.
If you're going to throw around logical fallacies, use them appropriately. It also helps to provide substance to your post.
And this is where things get hilarious:
Quote: (09-25-2015 07:29 PM)Easy_C Wrote:
Also even Roosh is with me on this:
http://www.rooshv.com/the-male-thirst-ep...ed-by-porn
Ah, a
reductio ab Rooshum. Roosh "is with me" therefore it must be true. Unfortunately...... we must be reading a different article.
Why would men be thirsty if their sexual energy is depleted in a napkin? Did you even read Roosh's assertions here? I quote:
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The reason should be clear: porn is creating the thirst.
He argues:
1) Men are so desperate for sex in the current sexual market that they are seeking lower quality women (irrelevant with a sexbot).
2) The countless hours of video porn men watch create a demand for fast, and easy sex (contrary to your argument).
3) Regularly beating off to girls performing slutty acts will cause you seek out the low-quality women who can provide you with the sex you watch, lowering your standards
Oh wait.....
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This is why male thirst is getting worse every year, and the arrival of virtual porn or sex bots will not at all reduce the thirst problem like many believe, but actually increase it.
With that sexual energy they supposedly lost in a napkin?