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12-25-2015, 11:15 AM
Disney?
Since I haven't watched TV for a few years, I happened to find my niece watching 'Pair of Kings' a Disney fantasy sitcom that ran for 3 seasons between 2010 and 2013 whose story is about two brothers who are:
*fraternal twins
*one of the brothers is white
*the other is black
*their parents are a white male and a black female.
The series was targeted at a pre teen and teenage audience so its interesting how the mainstream media is shaping young minds.
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12-26-2015, 12:06 AM
The whole Finn (civilian not a minority comment) and chick Jedi thing is to make it seem everyone could be a Jedi. To cheapen and water down something that to me was always some noble breed of warriors. Like samurai. Many of those who make entertainment have never really had to sacrifice in blood, sweat and tears or to lose someone in battle so I doubt they understand how,properly present a Jedi. Or any movie about physical conflict. I include myself In the group I am mocking. I have never served, I could never fully understand. I may be taking it a bit far.
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12-26-2015, 01:14 AM
Saw it today. Rey reminded me of Danaerys from Game of Thrones. That's not good.
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12-26-2015, 05:01 AM
I think the person who should be worried the most about actress Daisy Ridley, is Keira Knightly.
They have a slight resemblance.
Both are British.
Both are now 'action' movie actresses.
Both are just as capable as the other for those types of roles.
Yet, Daisy I'd say, is a touch more feminine & therefore a touch more attractive than Keira.
Plus Daisy is much younger to boot.
Also, now being the central protagonist of a massive $tar War$ film, Daisy is just as recognizable a face as Keira.
Heh.
Perhaps Keira can join 'washed up' Anne Hathoway at age 32 to bemoan all the good parts going to younger actresses.
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12-26-2015, 08:46 AM
So I guess that adds even more to the theory that she is a Skywalker.
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12-27-2015, 10:06 PM
I was pleasantly surprised at the movie. While I dislike diversity for diversity's sake alone, I found the Rey and Finn characters refreshing. Amusing. Of course, it's complete B.S. how effective her powers are with no training, but that isn't necessarily the result of girl power: I suspect they simply wanted to move the plot along quickly without pausing for a slow telling of back-story. Besides, its Star Wars - there is already TONS of backstory. I did find the occasional grrrl-power references grating - like how she refuses to take Finn's hand as he leads her to safety - but extends HER hand to him when he needs saving. But hey, this is Disney. They are nothing if not effective marketers. And with all the violence and action scenes, little boys were sure to flock to it any way...by adding a strong girl character, they get little girls interested, too. Still, they need to be careful with this: Little boys get bored when there isn't a character they can aspire to. And there has been a young male character in each of the first six movies. They need to make Luke their likeable male character again, if he is even capable of appearing youthful at this age. Or they need to introduce new young male characters in Episode XIII. To fail to do this two movies in a row is to take a shit on their main audience, and that isn't recommended with a billion-dollar franchise. Remember who made the franchise what it is. This isn't hunger games - no need to turn it into that.
All in all, I enjoyed the movie, but I'll watch to see how far out of hand the grrrrl-power and "black storm troopers matter" themes get played in future sequels.
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12-28-2015, 12:25 AM
I do not know what I watched but this is not Star Wars. There is no plot, none. Holy crap this is bad.
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12-28-2015, 10:31 AM
It really pissed me off that Rey was able to kick Kylo Ren's ass with 0 training. Kylo trained with Luke Skywalker for goodness sake. Either Kylo is a gigantic pussy or Luke can't train for shit.
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12-28-2015, 11:50 AM
Well, if you think about it, "force ability" is really like a feminist wet dream, since whoever is born with enough of it (boy or girl) can use it to physically overpower much stronger people and be an awesome pilot (or be accomplished at any physical skill) without any training.
Maybe women are better at "the force". Perhaps by the third movie a new breed of all female Jedis will be created which finally restores peace to the Galaxy.
The movie was visually quite nice to look at, but it was a lot like watching a video game.
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12-28-2015, 10:35 PM
Quote: (12-28-2015 11:50 AM)RexImperator Wrote:
The movie was visually quite nice to look at, but it was a lot like watching a video game.
Hmmmm...interesting... you may be on to something...a LOT of their audience did grow up playing video games, after all. Maybe that was part of their plan to attract as big an audience as possible.
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12-29-2015, 12:54 PM
Saw the movie yesterday, it was a true mixed bag for me.
I'm a huge star wars fan and I have been for a very long time. I'm the type that can talk your ear off about various movie theories. That part of me left really satisfied with all of the new questions and possibilities in the star wars universe. Why is Rey so beastly so fast? Could she be the "Chosen One" to bring balance to the Force instead of Anakin? Could she have been conceived from the force like Anakin was? Who is Supreme leader Snoke? How did he rise to power? I read a theory that he could be Darth Plagueis - the jedi with the power of life and death alluded to in the prequels. Who are the Knights of Ren? We saw Kylo Ren standing with a group of people in Rey's flashback sequence - does that mean that they do not follow the Sith "rule of two"? I loved Finn - he is a fantastic original character that grows and learns throughout the film, and the storm troopers this time around actually look and act menacing. These and many other thoughts popped through my head. From the "star wars fan" perspective - I loved it
However, as a red pill manosphere person, it was impossible to not look at that film from that angle. All we have to look at is Rey.
Rey is never sexualized, barely vulnerable, and becomes incredibly good incredibly fast at some shit it takes people decades to master, she is good at everything, truly a representation of "anything guys can do, girls can do better" feminist fantasies. She is the ultimate feminist GRRRLL POWER character.
Need more proof? Look at who she fights:
Kylo Ren - young angry white man who has autistic tantrums, who becomes obsessed with his girl crush while simultaneously putting her down. He is GamerGate as SJWs see them.
Snoke - the old conspiring white man in charge of everything. SJWs believe that old white men are in charge of everything
General Hux - young white man who wants to kill everyone. He is the "lacrosse frat dudebro young businessman" stereotype.
While they are completely different personality wise - they all work together to stop our brave strong independent woman from saving the day. Just like the patriarchy
I wish i could stop looking at movies like this, but I cant.