[Glaucon]

(06-26-2015 08:25 PM)RawGod Wrote:  

Yes, there is still some hope. There are countries like Hungary, with almost no Muslims, and where the majority of the public support the proposed fence to keep out illegals from the Balkans. (I don't think the fence is a great solution, but at least its support shows some will).

Haha, Hungary is a fucking shithole. I hate that place. Born and lived there for 29 years, after that Austria is like paradise.
People born in the western world cannot comprehend how hopeless that place is....

[infowarrior1]

(06-26-2015 02:02 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

Some hot Iranian girls in Tehran for your viewing pleasure, and of course WB.

The problem with modernisation is the importation of western degeneracy

Can we have a strong patriarchal and socially healthy society as well as technologically advanced countries instead of having to choose between the backwardness on one hand and degeneracy and trans-bullshit on the other hand?

[infowarrior1]

(06-26-2015 02:37 PM)almohajem Wrote:  

If you are worried about ISIS, look no further than Syria. It's well-known and propagated that Syria is the Arab world hope at the moment.

If Syria defeats ISIS, they'll be gone forever. They are already defeated in Egypt and Tunisia. If ISIS defeats Syria, a whole other scenario will emerge. Iraq, and Liban are probably their first target and will be at their mercy. Followed by Libya, Egypt, Tunisia and Algeria. They are already too strong in Morocco too and have political power there.

I'll then need to fly as far as Hong Kong or Australia.

You can kill the ideologue but not the ideology as easily. And since the ISIS fights 4GW when it is near defeat it may simply just go underground and treat the victorious enemies like they treated the US army in Iraq. They will step up their IEDs and continually pinprick their victorious enemies until they reemerge.

Here is an interesting article on the ISIL
http://fabiusmaximus.com/2015/01/28/isis...ure-77446/


And then there is the darwinian ratchet:

Quote:

We’re all familiar with how this works with bacteria. Administer antibiotics in non-lethal doses and soon you have a colony of drug-resistant bacteria. It works with people, too. The security services cull the pack of insurgents, eliminating the slow and stupid. This clears space for the “best” to rise in authority, those most able to survive, recruit, and train new ranks of more effective insurgents. An insurgency with shallow roots can be destroyed. If not destroyed, then evolution can occur. The more severe the efforts at exterminating the insurrection, the more capable the survivors.

Hence the familiar activity pattern of a rising sine wave: successes by the security forces, a pause in activity, followed by another wave of activity – but bigger and more effective.

This locks us into a Red Queen’s race, so we must run ever faster just to stay abreast of our enemies in the Long War. Insurgents prove more resilient than we expect, so we kill more locals and destroy more of their infrastructure. Our actions recruit more — and more effective — jihadists and further alienate the local population.

The “Darwinian ratchet” was a new idea in military theory when I wrote about it in 2003-2005. How is it possible that we still don’t understand it in 2015? As the following excerpts show, it’s been often mentioned by military and civilian experts. Can you explain our refusal to learn except by willful blindness?

http://fabiusmaximus.com/2015/05/29/isis...ill-85121/

[Comte De St. Germain]

(06-27-2015 08:15 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

The problem with modernisation is the importation of western degeneracy

Can we have a strong patriarchal and socially healthy society as well as technologically advanced countries instead of having to choose between the backwardness on one hand and degeneracy and trans-bullshit on the other hand?

In all honesty that kind of society only happens in a middle period between extreme conservatism and extreme degeneracy, or in outliers such as Argentina or among Persians where social conditions cause both extreme promiscuity coupled with extreme need to hide it. A society that has the best of both worlds needs to shame open promiscuity, but allow for a "liberal" attitude(classically liberal of course) towards what the younger generation does. In these "secular" societies men are encouraged to bang sluts in order to prove their masculinity, but women are extremely discouraged with girls whom get pregnant as teens shunned from the community(though men do too if they get them pregnant). It's an as long as you don't do something stupid culture.


On the case of Lebanon(I actually forgot to expand on this bit earlier in the thread), it's one of those few nations that seemed to prove the strongman theory I had earlier. After its formation it had amazing amounts of sectarian fighting between Lebanese Muslims and Christians, but strangely enough it was also the only "Muslim" country in the region to never officially declare war on Israel as well as getting great economic growth between periods of strife with the government divided by the religious groups that lived in that nation(Shiite, Sunni, and Christian).

Not invading Israel was actually a wise choice for the Lebanese as when their Civil War broke out in late 70s Israel was the first to intervene to stabilize the region coupled with foreign multinational forces that would later come in. After the Civil War foreign military presence completely stabilized the region until about 2000 ushering in a period of relative peace causing the growth of nightlife as well as a more liberal culture due to secular Syrian soldiers keeping the peace and the need to jump start the economy by whatever needs necessary. Syrian soldiers left around 2000 due to popular protest.

Although Hezbollah is also deeply embedded in the country now, Israel will more than definitely intervene if ISIS comes into Lebanese territory as they are the most relatively "stable" country in that region. If Syria and Lebanon fall, any chance of a safe Middle East goes.

On Lebanese women stateside. If you want your "Arab" flag, Lebanese girls are some of the most highly Westernized here Stateside as well as massive sluts. I would also like to mention that if you would like your Arab flag period, the country is still stable enough to go clubbing and have a good time according to Lebanese friends of mine(think RVF has a couple threads on it too). Could serve as an alternative to Latin America for those of us looking for tan, black haired babes that currently live in Europe.

Of course obligatory pictures of Lebanese women in Beirut:

[Foolsgo1d]

(06-27-2015 08:25 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

(06-26-2015 02:37 PM)almohajem Wrote:  

If you are worried about ISIS, look no further than Syria. It's well-known and propagated that Syria is the Arab world hope at the moment.

If Syria defeats ISIS, they'll be gone forever. They are already defeated in Egypt and Tunisia. If ISIS defeats Syria, a whole other scenario will emerge. Iraq, and Liban are probably their first target and will be at their mercy. Followed by Libya, Egypt, Tunisia and Algeria. They are already too strong in Morocco too and have political power there.

I'll then need to fly as far as Hong Kong or Australia.

You can kill the ideologue but not the ideology as easily. And since the ISIS fights 4GW when it is near defeat it may simply just go underground and treat the victorious enemies like they treated the US army in Iraq. They will step up their IEDs and continually pinprick their victorious enemies until they reemerge.

Here is an interesting article on the ISIL
http://fabiusmaximus.com/2015/01/28/isis...ure-77446/


And then there is the darwinian ratchet:

Quote:

We’re all familiar with how this works with bacteria. Administer antibiotics in non-lethal doses and soon you have a colony of drug-resistant bacteria. It works with people, too. The security services cull the pack of insurgents, eliminating the slow and stupid. This clears space for the “best” to rise in authority, those most able to survive, recruit, and train new ranks of more effective insurgents. An insurgency with shallow roots can be destroyed. If not destroyed, then evolution can occur. The more severe the efforts at exterminating the insurrection, the more capable the survivors.

Hence the familiar activity pattern of a rising sine wave: successes by the security forces, a pause in activity, followed by another wave of activity – but bigger and more effective.

This locks us into a Red Queen’s race, so we must run ever faster just to stay abreast of our enemies in the Long War. Insurgents prove more resilient than we expect, so we kill more locals and destroy more of their infrastructure. Our actions recruit more — and more effective — jihadists and further alienate the local population.

The “Darwinian ratchet” was a new idea in military theory when I wrote about it in 2003-2005. How is it possible that we still don’t understand it in 2015? As the following excerpts show, it’s been often mentioned by military and civilian experts. Can you explain our refusal to learn except by willful blindness?

http://fabiusmaximus.com/2015/05/29/isis...ill-85121/

Interesting stuff but I notice one thing, and one thing that sets apart those who became world conquerors and the losers.

When a city in what we call Afghanistan now rebelled against Genghis Khans rule he not only slaughtered the men, but the women and children, destroying the whole city entirely.

He understood that to leave enemies, even babes in arms at his back, was to give his enemy an advantage. Hence the popularity of guerrilla warfare and insurgency.

The United States' only modern day pacified action was in Fallujah but they gave the insurgents time to run, hide and assemble elsewhere.

Now you can say there are dictators who have done similar but have lost. I don't think they had the ability to completely pacify an enemy territory or people. We're talking millions of people of hundreds of thousands of square miles.

Who would do that? Russia did the closest thing to it in Chechnya but still it was not a complete annihilation of the Chechen rebels because the civilian base was left intact. If you see ISIS videos its a game of spot the Chechen.

There will always be terrorism from now on because it is effective. The problem is where does the scale stop? What would occur if a weapon of mass destruction was detonated in a heavily populated city?

As long as the internet can carry a message to the other side of the world terrorism will continue to be used by the losers, disaffected and psycho's of the world.

[spalex]

The religion of peace at it again....