[Moma]

(05-31-2011 11:05 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

MiXX-

I got what you are throwing down.

I guess I have never really jived with the 1-10 scale, my mind just doesn't work in that mathematical way.

There are just too many variables for me.

For instance, I have met girls that pretty much all guys would consider a 10, but their personalities and energy were so ugly that they wanted to make me vomit and I would consider them a zero.

"beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

Truer words have never been spoken. I wonder who first said that?

That's real talk. Some of the women you guys posted, I deduct points if her body is rubbish. Having a nice body raises the stakes up to the top for me.
I've met plenty buttaframes as well as buttafaces and I'll take a buttaface within reason over a buttaframe.

After all, who fcuks a face?

[OGNorCal707]

(05-31-2011 12:56 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(05-31-2011 11:05 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

MiXX-

I got what you are throwing down.

I guess I have never really jived with the 1-10 scale, my mind just doesn't work in that mathematical way.

There are just too many variables for me.

For instance, I have met girls that pretty much all guys would consider a 10, but their personalities and energy were so ugly that they wanted to make me vomit and I would consider them a zero.

"beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

Truer words have never been spoken. I wonder who first said that?

That's real talk. Some of the women you guys posted, I deduct points if her body is rubbish. Having a nice body raises the stakes up to the top for me.
I've met plenty buttaframes as well as buttafaces and I'll take a buttaface within reason over a buttaframe.

After all, who fcuks a face?

I've fucked a few faces!

[flashbang]

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Other nations with higher(or roughly equal) per capita GDPs to America have higher quality women, so that's not it.

It is unique to the culture. America's unique blend of puritanism, isolation, and diversity during its formation created a unique set of results. The relatively low quality of the women here relates to puritanism and adversarialism, both key aspects of American culture.

-Adversarialism: Americans like conflict. It isn't a cohesive, united culture-people here like to pick sides and fight doggedly over things. This makes the gender war here more antagonistic than it is in many other places. This also makes American feminism far more hostile to men than the kind seen in other cultures.
With the death of the patriarchy in the 60's/70's and the more restrictive gender roles that came with it, the women have gotten a bit of an edge in power, which is why so many more American men are complaining about female entitlement, bitterness, etc, etc. Feminism is no longer about equality here-it is a power grab.

-Puritanism: Puritanism is the core from which American society grew, and it is the source of many of this nation's social hypocrisies. The ball-busting "career woman" type of feminist we so often complain about here is a direct offshoot of puritanism. The Puritans encouraged a strong work ethic among their women(to try and match men and double their labor force) and tried to remove some gender roles while also repressing sexuality.

This is why American women have historically been seen as "more masculine" than others-that's not a new trend. It is also why they've worked harder than many others(even the relatively progressive Scandinavians) in creating "equality"-that is, being "one of the boys". Not just having sex like one of the boys, but really BEING one of the boys.

The only other country that really comes close to America's level of gender tension is the UK, more distantly followed then by Canada(only Toronto really comes close to a US-style environment) and Australia(far more laid back, less adversarial culture).

You won't have to worry about Russian women adopting these problems. For that to happen, they would need to come to the US and live completely immersed and consumed by this culture, losing almost all ties to their own (including parental influence from more recent immigrants). Unless she moves here as a young child, lives with American parents and grows up here, she likely won't reach that level.

Just don't ever move your woman here.

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Very interesting analysis. I feel I learnt a thing or two just by reading it! Still I'm somewhat concerned that the American media/celebrity obsessed culture will manage to seep in everywhere eventually. Maybe I'm just being paranoid but I remember really looking up to the US when I was a kid. The media can be very powerful when you're not mentally prepared for it.

[flashbang]

(05-31-2011 09:33 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Give flashbang props.

I am sure if his girl had professional photographers, professional make up artists and airbrushing, you guys would call her a 10.

You guys are comparing professional photos with a picture that was taken in what looks like some hallway of a hostel.

Personally, I had no interest in the picture, I am more down with the story.

Bottom line, the cat is in Malta swooping Russian girls. That is smooth in my book.

By the way, flashbang, where is the Malta breakdown?

Fair enough G. I'm throwing down a Malta breakdown in the travel section as we speak. I think it's somewhat of an overlooked destination on this forum for all the fun it can offer to those with decent game.

[Excelsior]

(05-31-2011 04:14 PM)flashbang Wrote:  

Very interesting analysis. I feel I learnt a thing or two just by reading it! Still I'm somewhat concerned that the American media/celebrity obsessed culture will manage to seep in everywhere eventually. Maybe I'm just being paranoid but I remember really looking up to the US when I was a kid. The media can be very powerful when you're not mentally prepared for it.

Canada is arguably the most heavily Americanized nation on the planet not called the United States of America. It is right next door to us, joined with the US at the hip.

In spite of this close proximity, American men (and many Canadian men, once they've hung out in the US for long enough) regularly extoll the virtues of Canadian women (outside of Toronto) and how all of the negative effects I just went on about are less prevalent with girls up there.

Look at guys here on our own forum. MiXX and a couple of others are always busy making plans to get to Montreal or learn a little more about cities like Winnipeg and Calgary so they can game and enjoy themselves. They all agree that Canadian chicks are great, and there is no group of chicks closer to or more heavily exposed to American culture outside of the US. They live in a nation tied to America at the hip, and still turn out to be more positive to men. If even they can't match the American woman blow for blow, then honestly nobody can.

My point is that this all runs much deeper than simple exposure. Turning most of your Russian/Hungarian/[insert nationality here] women into typical American girls with typical American attitudes/behavior will take much more than viewing re-runs of Sex and the City.

[afronoob]

(06-01-2011 07:02 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(05-31-2011 04:14 PM)flashbang Wrote:  

Very interesting analysis. I feel I learnt a thing or two just by reading it! Still I'm somewhat concerned that the American media/celebrity obsessed culture will manage to seep in everywhere eventually. Maybe I'm just being paranoid but I remember really looking up to the US when I was a kid. The media can be very powerful when you're not mentally prepared for it.

Canada is arguably the most heavily Americanized nation on the planet not called the United States of America. It is right next door to us, joined with the US at the hip.

In spite of this close proximity, American men (and many Canadian men, once they've hung out in the US for long enough) regularly extoll the virtues of Canadian women (outside of Toronto) and how all of the negative effects I just went on about are less prevalent with girls up there.

Look at guys here on our own forum. MiXX and a couple of others are always busy making plans to get to Montreal or learn a little more about cities like Winnipeg and Calgary so they can game and enjoy themselves. They all agree that Canadian chicks are great, and there is no group of chicks closer to or more heavily exposed to American culture outside of the US. They live in a nation tied to America at the hip, and still turn out to be more positive to men. If even they can't match the American woman blow for blow, then honestly nobody can.

My point is that this all runs much deeper than simple exposure. Turning most of your Russian/Hungarian/[insert nationality here] women into typical American girls with typical American attitudes/behavior will take much more than viewing re-runs of Sex and the City.

Sticking with the moral of the story;props to you flashbang! Personally for me she's on the thin side and shares that slightly insipid look with that SATC heffa so I'd give her 7.5. Also more props for handling that Asian chick in the proper roosh manner.
Bitches must know its NOT AMUSING trying to turn horny dude into betaized servants/dog washers/water boys!

[flashbang]

(06-15-2011 09:00 AM)afronoob Wrote:  

(06-01-2011 07:02 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(05-31-2011 04:14 PM)flashbang Wrote:  

Very interesting analysis. I feel I learnt a thing or two just by reading it! Still I'm somewhat concerned that the American media/celebrity obsessed culture will manage to seep in everywhere eventually. Maybe I'm just being paranoid but I remember really looking up to the US when I was a kid. The media can be very powerful when you're not mentally prepared for it.

Canada is arguably the most heavily Americanized nation on the planet not called the United States of America. It is right next door to us, joined with the US at the hip.

In spite of this close proximity, American men (and many Canadian men, once they've hung out in the US for long enough) regularly extoll the virtues of Canadian women (outside of Toronto) and how all of the negative effects I just went on about are less prevalent with girls up there.

Look at guys here on our own forum. MiXX and a couple of others are always busy making plans to get to Montreal or learn a little more about cities like Winnipeg and Calgary so they can game and enjoy themselves. They all agree that Canadian chicks are great, and there is no group of chicks closer to or more heavily exposed to American culture outside of the US. They live in a nation tied to America at the hip, and still turn out to be more positive to men. If even they can't match the American woman blow for blow, then honestly nobody can.

My point is that this all runs much deeper than simple exposure. Turning most of your Russian/Hungarian/[insert nationality here] women into typical American girls with typical American attitudes/behavior will take much more than viewing re-runs of Sex and the City.

Sticking with the moral of the story;props to you flashbang! Personally for me she's on the thin side and shares that slightly insipid look with that SATC heffa so I'd give her 7.5. Also more props for handling that Asian chick in the proper roosh manner.
Bitches must know its NOT AMUSING trying to turn horny dude into betaized servants/dog washers/water boys!

Thanks Afronoob. I admit I may have been a bit quick to label her a 10. I fully agree with you that she's a bit on the thin side. I like em nice and meaty too. About the Asian, I have this thing with girls that if one day I got to a certain point with them and the next time they're no longer acting slutty, I lose patience with them quickly. I've got no time to waste going backwards not forwards. Roosh's writings have been very inspirational in this regard.

[Samseau]

(05-31-2011 11:05 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

"beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

Truer words have never been spoken. I wonder who first said that?

I would qualify that statement.

Beauty is objective, but attraction is in the eye of the beholder.

[MiXX]

(06-01-2011 07:02 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Look at guys here on our own forum. MiXX and a couple of others are always busy making plans to get to Montreal or learn a little more about cities like Winnipeg and Calgary so they can game and enjoy themselves.

I'm on my way to Winnipeg this weekend for Canada Day and the 4th of July. I'll update you guys on Winni soon enough.

Mixx

[iknowexactly]

+1 on Puritanical sickness, "if it feels good, it should be delayed"

and +1 on Russian bewilderment at feminism.

I read one interview with a Russian woman and she said something like "Frankly, we don't understand feminism. We're in this together with our men."

Can't imagine an American woman saying that.

However, there is a flip side to puritanism. It's fun when puritanical closest freak girls break down and start telling you all the perverted stuff they want to do underneath their prim. proper facades.

Have to like that, but it's not overall worth it

The only woman that can be a 10 has to love me!

[iknowexactly]

+1 on Puritanical sickness, "if it feels good, it should be delayed"

and +1 on Russian bewilderment at feminism.

I read one interview with a Russian woman and she said something like "Frankly, we don't understand feminism. We're in this toether with our men."

Can't imagine an American woman saying that.

However, there is a flip side to puritanism. It's fun when puritanical closest freak girls break down and start telling you all the perverted stuff they want to do underneath their prim. proper facades.

Have to like that, but it's not overall worth it

The only woman that can be a 10 has to love me!