[MMM]

In before the manosphere goes mainstream.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-26-2015 06:06 AM)MMM Wrote:  

In before the manosphere goes mainstream.

Sorry to break your bubble, but the 'sphere will never go mainstream in our current system.

The PUA program by Mystery was co-opted by Bravo and made to look ridiculous. And even that Game teaching was not touched much by the mainstream despite some aspects of it being problematic.

Picking up girls is not problematic to them as long as you don't marry and don't have stable families.

What is counter-productive to them is that 'sphere guys are promoting male Alpha state, are promoting independence, healthy masculinity, taking leadership, thinking for yourself, questioning everything or at least much more than the average guy, rejecting feminism, rejecting gender-agenda, rejecting the entire fem-centric world-view that they are pushing towards the lower classes.

So - no - making real manosphere guys mainstream would mean opening dialogue and major influence for men like Rollo, Roosh, even MRAs. What are the chances for them to twist those guys towards their agenda? They would literally have to throw hundreds of millions at them and also make them delete everything they have written, even reject everything they have written before.

They are sooooo far apart, that the only chance is to pick a completely co-opted one, but that one would lack any credibility and thus popularity. Even someone like Tucker Max is not welcome.

[germanico]

(04-26-2015 06:24 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

The PUA program by Mystery was co-opted by Bravo and made to look ridiculous.

No, no, it was ridiculous before that.

A grown ass man dressing in $10 Hot Topic clothes while claiming to "date the most beautiful women on earth". Yeah right. Ill believe that.

[Vaun]

(04-26-2015 03:37 AM)Maciano Wrote:  

I'm guessing someone like Gavin McGinness, he's on Fox, definitely knows about Roosh & would give him a fair hearing.

Fox would be good but their core audience is christian conservative and they cant afford to piss them off. Im saying CNN or MSNBC.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-26-2015 08:46 AM)germanico Wrote:  

(04-26-2015 06:24 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

The PUA program by Mystery was co-opted by Bravo and made to look ridiculous.

No, no, it was ridiculous before that.

A grown ass man dressing in $10 Hot Topic clothes while claiming to "date the most beautiful women on earth". Yeah right. Ill believe that.

Mystery gets a lot of hate, but he started out doing that in the 1990s and co-developed the current Game science. His explanation was that he was on his way to The Burning Man. Back then it was completely foreign. He stopped doing that a long time ago - even before the show aired.

The show even hired an actor who faked to be a PUA and gave them ridiculous costumes. I mean I understand Mystery, because it was good money.

And of course Mystery still had Blue Pill concepts, since back then nothing else was really breached and concepts like hypergamy, oneitis, AlphaFucksBetaBucks were all foreign. They just knew how to get laid - not even how to make a relationship work with that knowledge.

A lot of the current Game was built on Ross Jeffries or Mystery just as many new Game teachers are constructing their programs on Krauser's Daygame material.
The early guys were just off in many ways and were experimenting with ways that seem ridiculous to us now. But that does not invalidate the core itself.

[Clint Barton]

Man I don't care where game has been I care where it's going!

jk

Yeah sometimes we forget that these Game 1.0 guys were pioneers. Many of us wouldn't be here if it wasn't for their stories being told in The Game.

(04-26-2015 09:16 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(04-26-2015 08:46 AM)germanico Wrote:  

(04-26-2015 06:24 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

The PUA program by Mystery was co-opted by Bravo and made to look ridiculous.

No, no, it was ridiculous before that.

A grown ass man dressing in $10 Hot Topic clothes while claiming to "date the most beautiful women on earth". Yeah right. Ill believe that.

Mystery gets a lot of hate, but he started out doing that in the 1990s and co-developed the current Game science. His explanation was that he was on his way to The Burning Man. Back then it was completely foreign. He stopped doing that a long time ago - even before the show aired.

The show even hired an actor who faked to be a PUA and gave them ridiculous costumes. I mean I understand Mystery, because it was good money.

And of course Mystery still had Blue Pill concepts, since back then nothing else was really breached and concepts like hypergamy, oneitis, AlphaFucksBetaBucks were all foreign. They just knew how to get laid - not even how to make a relationship work with that knowledge.

A lot of the current Game was built on Ross Jeffries or Mystery just as many new Game teachers are constructing their programs on Krauser's Daygame material.
The early guys were just off in many ways and were experimenting with ways that seem ridiculous to us now. But that does not invalidate the core itself.

[Suits]

(04-26-2015 09:16 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(04-26-2015 08:46 AM)germanico Wrote:  

(04-26-2015 06:24 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

The PUA program by Mystery was co-opted by Bravo and made to look ridiculous.

No, no, it was ridiculous before that.

Have you actually seen the show?

Quote:

Quote:

A grown ass man dressing in $10 Hot Topic clothes while claiming to "date the most beautiful women on earth". Yeah right. Ill believe that.

Mystery gets a lot of hate, but he started out doing that in the 1990s and co-developed the current Game science. His explanation was that he was on his way to The Burning Man. Back then it was completely foreign. He stopped doing that a long time ago - even before the show aired.

The show even hired an actor who faked to be a PUA and gave them ridiculous costumes. I mean I understand Mystery, because it was good money.

And of course Mystery still had Blue Pill concepts, since back then nothing else was really breached and concepts like hypergamy, oneitis, AlphaFucksBetaBucks were all foreign. They just knew how to get laid - not even how to make a relationship work with that knowledge.

A lot of the current Game was built on Ross Jeffries or Mystery just as many new Game teachers are constructing their programs on Krauser's Daygame material.
The early guys were just off in many ways and were experimenting with ways that seem ridiculous to us now. But that does not invalidate the core itself.

Word on the street is that Ross Jeffries coined the term "oneitis." It's been around for a while.

[Roosh]

The show I'm appearing on was identified in this thread at least once.

[Quintus Curtius]

(04-26-2015 10:31 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

The show I'm appearing on was identified in this thread at least once.

A couple of us writers at ROK had Gordon Ramsay run a kitchen intervention for Roosh. Whether they'll ever run it, is still up in the air.

He put up with a ton of screaming and abuse.

[Ocelot]

I hope it's something oozing with TheYoungTurks-level progressivism and snark, so all the empowered womyn addicted to anger and the fleeting joy of offence receive maximum exposure.

I hope Roosh astounds and enrages them with a Dick Masterson-esque blend of unyielding confidence, incendiary talking points and unspoken truths.

I hope that, in the midst of their rage, they broadcast his message far and wide across social media, and millions of men find themselves nodding in agreement.

I hope...



See you guys on Tuesday, I'm off to buy a fortnight's supply of popcorn.

[Ethan Hunt]

(04-26-2015 12:49 PM)Ocelot Wrote:  

I hope it's something oozing with TheYoungTurks-level progressivism and snark, so all the empowered womyn addicted to anger and the fleeting joy of offence receive maximum exposure.

I hope Roosh astounds and enrages them with a Dick Masterson-esque blend of unyielding confidence, incendiary talking points and unspoken truths.

I hope that, in the midst of their rage, they broadcast his message far and wide across social media, and millions of men find themselves nodding in agreement.

I hope...



See you guys on Tuesday, I'm off to buy a fortnight's supply of popcorn.

The pink bloused bitch revealed a freudian slip after asking where the line of women to date this guy are she says "i'd be at the back of the line" admitting she'd be in the line.

[Paracelsus]

(04-26-2015 10:31 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

The show I'm appearing on was identified in this thread at least once.

SVU! I KNEW IT!

[Roosh]

Quote:

I hope Roosh astounds and enrages them with a Dick Masterson-esque blend of unyielding confidence, incendiary talking points and unspoken truths.

I was more severely constrained. Dr. Phil gave him more freedom to discuss his views.

[CalmoApparente]

http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/dr-oz-fa...over-world

[MMM]

Pocket square game recognized.

[Mark Fletcher]

A reason to skip class.

[el mechanico]

(04-27-2015 09:06 AM)CalmoApparente Wrote:  

http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/dr-oz-fa...over-world

Holy shit.

[EuphoricWizard]

The you don't know me who are you to judge argument. Yes you kunt I'm sure your story is so different then all the other cc riders who drank heavily and ates tons of empty calories throughtout your teen and college years and magically developed a thyroid condition

[Tokyo Joe]

Truly outstanding.

One wonders if Dr. Oz is aware that Roosh penned a damning piece about him way back in March 2013.
http://www.returnofkings.com/7074/dr-oz-is-a-pussy

Return of Kings Wrote:

This woman has a vice grip around Dr. Oz’s balls, embarrassing him in a national publication, and he takes it like the pussy that he is. Dr. Oz is a disgrace to men everywhere. As long as his behavior is seen as “normal,” more men will be pressured to follow in his mangina footsteps.

[realologist]

Has there ever been a Dr. Oz fan that isn't obese?

Just from watching the clip his "encouragement" for these women to lose and maintain a healthy weight sure isn't working either.

[YossariansRight]

I saw the rotund she-walrus anger cackling at you (Roosh) in the teaser. I hope your response was something like this:

   

[UnW]

(04-27-2015 09:06 AM)CalmoApparente Wrote:  

http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/dr-oz-fa...over-world

Haha looks intense!

[kosko]

Wow. I'm surprised it was a syndicated show like Dr Oz they always try to smear mud for shock value.

Were you able to promote your books/sites?

I don't like how they did not refer to you by name ombthe site. You are not some random guy on TV from Kansas, you likely get more web traffic then he does.

[Avon Barksdale]

(04-27-2015 09:30 AM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

I saw the rotund she-walrus anger cackling at you (Roosh) in the teaser. I hope your response was something like this:

Or, Bitch why would I want to know you

Also I am off from work tommorrow so........

[Horus]

(04-27-2015 09:06 AM)CalmoApparente Wrote:  

http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/dr-oz-fa...over-world

This is going to be brilliant. I hope it is available outside the US. They're going to make Roosh out to be a monster, but I can't wait for the fatties to melt as he clearly and logically make the case against landwhales.

Also, Roosh is looking really sharp. His appearance has a good combination of being suave, distinguished and credible.