[ctravels]

I have only posted here once before, I read a lot but it seems most anything I would say in a trip report has been said multiple times far more eloquently than I could.

There is one thing I haven't seen on here (maybe it is, I just haven't read anyone suggesting it).

First - I have zero interest in shoring, I often lack the motivation to do a lot of pipelining, and my days in most cities are usually spent working so that leaves me with limited day-game time. In BKK that makes it a bit difficult especially with usually only a few days there at a time.

The first thing as has been stated here again and again is that RCA is difficult to pull from if you are rolling solo and are in BKK for a short stay. On longer stays you can spend the time to build up the social circle..

Well I decided to try something years ago for an 'instant' social circle. I'd check out some of the bars on sukhumvit and chat up the various p4p girls until I find someone that seems genuinely fun. I make sure to keep the interactions only 'friendly'. So that means zero escalation. I'm just a fun cool guy that is just trying to have a fun night out. I try to find someone that is:

1) actually seems fun
2) dressed well
3) cute
4) has another friend or two (better) in the bar with the above 3 traits

I tell them, while I have no interest in p4p, I would like to head out and have a good night so maybe I can barfine them and we can go to RCA.

This is an easy sell in my experience.

Once you find your RCA venue of choice (I usually head to slim) you just get a table with your new wingwomen and game as usual but with a 2-3 cute girls there to help you out.

Obviously this only works if you find girls cute enough and dressed well enough to increase your value there but that just bar hop a bit and it's not too hard to find.

I've had it where the girls are having such a good time they end up going and trying to find girls for me as well. Chatting up cute girls and bringing them over because they think I'm "just so cool" so they want me to find a cute girl.

My hit rate in RCA isn't the insane rate you can get shoring (pretty much 100% hit rate shoring) but vastly better than rolling solo. The side benefit is that if you strike out, I actually often have a pretty good time with them as wings.

[Ice]

(04-05-2015 10:38 AM)ctravels Wrote:  

I have only posted here once before, I read a lot but it seems most anything I would say in a trip report has been said multiple times far more eloquently than I could.

There is one thing I haven't seen on here (maybe it is, I just haven't read anyone suggesting it).

First - I have zero interest in shoring, I often lack the motivation to do a lot of pipelining, and my days in most cities are usually spent working so that leaves me with limited day-game time. In BKK that makes it a bit difficult especially with usually only a few days there at a time.

The first thing as has been stated here again and again is that RCA is difficult to pull from if you are rolling solo and are in BKK for a short stay. On longer stays you can spend the time to build up the social circle..

Well I decided to try something years ago for an 'instant' social circle. I'd check out some of the bars on sukhumvit and chat up the various p4p girls until I find someone that seems genuinely fun. I make sure to keep the interactions only 'friendly'. So that means zero escalation. I'm just a fun cool guy that is just trying to have a fun night out. I try to find someone that is:

1) actually seems fun
2) dressed well
3) cute
4) has another friend or two (better) in the bar with the above 3 traits

I tell them, while I have no interest in p4p, I would like to head out and have a good night so maybe I can barfine them and we can go to RCA.

This is an easy sell in my experience.

Once you find your RCA venue of choice (I usually head to slim) you just get a table with your new wingwomen and game as usual but with a 2-3 cute girls there to help you out.

Obviously this only works if you find girls cute enough and dressed well enough to increase your value there but that just bar hop a bit and it's not too hard to find.

I've had it where the girls are having such a good time they end up going and trying to find girls for me as well. Chatting up cute girls and bringing them over because they think I'm "just so cool" so they want me to find a cute girl.

My hit rate in RCA isn't the insane rate you can get shoring (pretty much 100% hit rate shoring) but vastly better than rolling solo. The side benefit is that if you strike out, I actually often have a pretty good time with them as wings.

Yeah sounds not bad, the only thing is that obviously everyone in RCA will know that you're rolling with hookers. Trust me, they will know that just after glancing at the girls once.

It might still be a DHV to a certain extent, though, because you might seem like a "baller" since you're barfining three hookers ..

But really, if you pay the barfine for three girls just to come party with you, you might as well just barfine one girl and actually book her for a session at your hotel room.

[ctravels]

(04-05-2015 10:52 AM)Ice Wrote:  

But really, if you pay the barfine for three girls just to come party with you, you might as well just barfine one girl and actually book her for a session at your hotel room.

To each their own but that holds zero interest for me. If someone just wants to pay to get a girl to their room I don't think they'd be going to RCA in the first place.

[Afarang]

How often have you tried this? Some hookers will never go to RCA no matter what.

I like your idea but I think you would be better off messaging a bunch of girls on Thai friendly or setting up a Craiglist ad stating you will freeroll a girl drinks all night if she hangs at your table. This way you can always bang them without paying for services.

I know girls where guys have paid them 5,000 baht + drinks just to be at their table. They wanted to bang them but never and paid the money up front.


A better tip would be to buy a 1 liter bottle of Vodka (1,500 baht) and get girls who don't have a bottle to join you. On weekends there's usually girls by the rails drinking beers in pairs, call them over.

Tell them they can drink some of your bottle for free, all they need to do is keep you company. This way if you do strike out you always have girls back at your table.

[ctravels]

(04-05-2015 11:16 AM)Afarang Wrote:  

How often have you tried this? Some hookers will never go to RCA no matter what.

If I had to guess at least a dozen times. I used to be in BKK every month for a few days at a time for work (when I lived in SEA 2001-2009). Nowadays it's once every year or two (now that I'm based in the states). I probably underplayed how difficult this first part is. Although I find it less of a challenge for them to agree to go, it's more about finding someone that looks like they could fit in there, and that is actually fun. If they are fun enough for me to suggest, by that point I have enough of a rapport that usually they've said yes.

(04-05-2015 11:16 AM)Afarang Wrote:  

I like your idea but I think you would be better off messaging a bunch of girls on Thai friendly or setting up a Craiglist ad stating you will freeroll a girl drinks all night if she hangs at your table. This way you can always bang them without paying for services.

I know girls where guys have paid them 5,000 baht + drinks just to be at their table. They wanted to bang them but never and paid the money up front.

You are probably right with TF. I just never have the motivation or interest to setup profiles and message girls on those sites. Not sure what it is, but online game just feels like work to me.

I've never even checked craigslist in SEA. Craigslist to me just = seedy so unless I'm trying to quickly sell something I never check it out. You have me curious about trying that. If it would work, seems like less effort than TF.

(04-05-2015 11:16 AM)Afarang Wrote:  

A better tip would be to buy a 1 liter bottle of Vodka (1,500 baht) and get girls who don't have a bottle to join you. On weekends there's usually girls by the rails drinking beers in pairs, call them over.

Tell them they can drink some of your bottle for free, all they need to do is keep you company. This way if you do strike out you always have girls back at your table.

I've tried that and had lower success rates. Breaking into the groups there solo (even with a table) anywhere there has simply been easier for me using what I've posted here. Obviously not for everyone and if someone is good at breaking into groups getting a bottle there solo then no need for doing this..

I tried that, and kept trying different strategies around there and simply wasn't having the kinds of returns I wanted.. this tactic was kind of a "shot in the dark."

Could just be an issue with my game. I'm open to that being the dillema. Anyway I at least wanted to share a tactic that's been helpful to me in case it's helpful to someone else. With the wealth of information on this forum I wanted to try to contribute something at least

[Innuendo]

This doesn't sound like a good idea. You're spending a ton of money and time on girls you're not banging. And I wouldn't say RCA is hard, in fact most of my pulls from there have been when I was rolling solo.

[RichieP]

For some reason, the best night I had there in terms of social proof was being with ONE good-looking asian male friend from a "more developed" country that Thais look up to and perceive as handsome, rich, romantic, honorable, etc.

We got there early, sat in the middle outside, many chicks around us was trying to get into our line of sight and we got opened by several, some walked from a few tables over to chat to us.

I think you can mitigate a LOT of the negative "farang" stereotype by a) dressing classy and b) being with other high status asian males.

[WanderingSoul]

This is a horrible idea lol. I'll give you a pass though because I don't think you've ever lived in BKK and it gave me a good laugh.

As already mentioned, girls are going to spot these chicks as pros from a mile away. You won't get any DHV, you will get a massive loss of value for being the dude bringing low class Isaan hookers to RCA.

The way the P4P girls talk, dress, act, etc. is a dead tell that she is a pro. Just the way that they speak gives them away to other Thai people in a way that us as foreigners probably would never realize.

I was at a restaurant with my ex and there was a couple of guys with a couple of girls. The girls were obviously Isaan to me, but they looked well dresses, and didn't act like pros. My ex told me right away though that they were hookers. She said it was easy to tell by the way they talked to each other and how they used the word "mung", or however you would spell it. It's an impolite way to talk with someone and she says her and her friends use the word, but only in private when joking, and they'd never use it in the same way that these girls were using it in public.

After watching them interact throughout their meal I could tell that they were pros, but even me, someone who had lived there for 2+years, couldn't tell right away. My ex picked up on it in the first 2 minutes.

So definitely don't take hookers to RCA because it will hurt your chances no doubt. No girl wants to hang out with the guy who is hanging out with hookers at RCA.

A better idea is to hit Tinder and make some connections there and offer to take a girl and her friends to RCA. You might even end up getting laid by one of her friends, and they might even pay for part or the whole bottle. A lot of girls on Tinder have cash.

[WanderingSoul]

(04-05-2015 09:59 PM)RichieP Wrote:  

For some reason, the best night I had there in terms of social proof was being with ONE good-looking asian male friend from a "more developed" country that Thais look up to and perceive as handsome, rich, romantic, honorable, etc.

We got there early, sat in the middle outside, many chicks around us was trying to get into our line of sight and we got opened by several, some walked from a few tables over to chat to us.

I think you can mitigate a LOT of the negative "farang" stereotype by a) dressing classy and b) being with other high status asian males.

If you're young, decent looking, well dressed and in shape there is no negative farang stereotype at all at RCA really. Having some high status local friends would definitely work in your favor, but it isn't necessary at all at RCA. If you go to some of the more Thai clubs I bet it'd help quite a bit though.

[CodyB]

Taking hookers to RCA is a stupid idea. Rio said pretty much all there is to say. They will stand out like dogs balls.

Better bet is to pull the sister-zone charade with a younger Thai girl. Call her Nong-Sow (Little sister) and give her shit and then invite her out to RCA. IT works well.

[Brodiaga]

Barfine 3 hookers and pay for bottle service for a chance of banging a club slut? If that's not overkill, I don't know what is.

[Sp5]

Reminds me of the Italian-American kid I knew who hired two black streetwalkers to take to a Catholic high school senior prom.

That was just a big funny fuck you to the school, though, not "social proof."