[AlonzoNites]

What's up guys.
I just made an Ashley Madison profile and it's literally a plethora of chicks on there looking for sex. I don't know though man. It's like $80 to join off rip. I figure I could use it specifically to game some cougars for benefits but I can't justify paying money for the possibility of getting pussy?! OBVIOUSLY it's alot of gold diggers and workers, but they make it known. I'm talking about the ones that just want to bang. I feel it's better to just game chicks offline man...what do you think?

[Saweeep]

I'm certain there's a thread on this if you search.

If I remember correctly the consensus was: don't bother.

[N°6]

Real life
Man SMV - 6
Woman SMV - 6

General dating site
Same man - 5
Same woman - 7

Vanilla sex site
Same man - 4
Same woman - 8

Therefore on the internet in general, a man needs to find a way to off-set a woman's online value. Normally this is done by him settling for a woman of a certain age or a woman of a race which is predisposed to like his.

Fetish sites, put women in the position of a car dealer when approached by a buyer who is more into the car's accessories than the car itself and the price is raised accordingly:

Same man - 3
Same woman - 9.

You need to avoid places of female sexual price inflation.

[AlonzoNites]

N6 I have no clue WHAT you just said but the erm data shows you think it's a waste of time? Lol
I mean I'm just predisposed to spend NO money to get laid...*shrugs*
By offset a womans value I'm lost bro. Like I don't value women?! Hou mean attention whores?!

[Repo]

I tried it a couple years back. I thought it was a definate waste of time and money. OKC and PoF(both free) were way better. AM is full of fake profiles and fatties. I'm sure its possible to meet decent looking women on that site, but I think there are wayyy better and cheaper options. Hell, even Match.com is easier for hookups.

[N°6]

(04-05-2015 01:21 PM)AlonzoNites Wrote:  

N6 I have no clue WHAT you just said but the erm data shows you think it's a waste of time? Lol
I mean I'm just predisposed to spend NO money to get laid...*shrugs*
By offset a womans value I'm lost bro. Like I don't value women?! Hou mean attention whores?!

All it means is that you have a Social/ Sexual Market Value (SMV) in real life and online. Because of the dynamics online, it is going to be lower while women's are inflated. Where the online environment is sexual, women's values become even more inflated.

In other words, you are more likely to find a woman you genuinely like in RL and on general dating sites.

[RockHard]

I already put my opinion here: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-40763.html

[Playboy_Extraordinare]

Don't fuckin bother! It's full of bots and scammers!

[Carlos100]

I suspect that it might be better in other countries. For example, it wouldn't surprise me if AM Japan has a number of Japanese housewives whose fantasy is to bang a western dude. That might be worth checking out if the price was a little better and if the site didn't have the stupid credit system.

[CJ_W]

(04-05-2015 05:39 AM)AlonzoNites Wrote:  

What's up guys.
I just made an Ashley Madison profile and it's literally a plethora of chicks on there looking for sex. I don't know though man. It's like $80 to join off rip. I figure I could use it specifically to game some cougars for benefits but I can't justify paying money for the possibility of getting pussy?! OBVIOUSLY it's alot of gold diggers and workers, but they make it known. I'm talking about the ones that just want to bang. I feel it's better to just game chicks offline man...what do you think?

First of all, Internet game is NOT a waste of time, and it's NOT something you should stay away from. It can be very great for your ROI (There are actually multiple threads talking about how to make the most "Bang" for your buck, check those out.)

THAT BEING SAID:
Ashley Madison IS a waste of time and money. 99% of the profiles are fake, and if you try to cancel, they try to do some shady squirmy bullshit to keep you paying. (That and the exorbitant fees) It's pretty much just as bad or worse than Adult friend finder. Literally EVERY site (Including Tinder and POF) is better than Ashley Madison.

Stay away from that site.

@Carlos while there probably are a lot of horny Japanese ladies（Housewives） on that site, There are a TON of 桜（Sakura） (i.e.　Dudes who are paid to make female profiles and work the site specifically to get money out of men.) that and its like $300 bucks for like one of the decent payment packs. . .yeah there are way better websites and some for free even that you can work if you take a look at some of the guides here on the RVF forum.

[YossariansRight]

I'll echo what others have said: AM is a waste of time. Full of fakes and bullshit.

And yes, if you try to cancel, AM fucks around. My advice: avoid AM.

I found adultfriendfinder.com to be better (several years back) I met a couple chicks off of it. The better looking of the two was a good 1.5 points higher in real life than the pics she sent me. I didn't bang her because she wanted her husband to watch. Pass. I have some limits.

[RockHard]

(04-10-2015 09:26 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

And yes, if you try to cancel, AM fucks around. My advice: avoid AM.

By "fucks around" he means you get 2 buttons. The first is bright red and says "Delete My Profile". The second is dull gray, below the fold, and says "Hide Profile from Search". Guess which button costs $19?

Then once you click the 2nd button, you get a message "You are about to permanently hide your profile. You still have credits and/or a membership available. Please Confirm that you wish to permanently hide your profile". You get this message even if you're out of credits. The membership is free, you're not losing anything. But it's just another way to try to trick you into staying on. Infidelity website is run by a bunch of sketchy fuckers, who would've thunk it?

[YossariansRight]

(04-11-2015 07:47 AM)RockHard Wrote:  

(04-10-2015 09:26 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

And yes, if you try to cancel, AM fucks around. My advice: avoid AM.

By "fucks around" he means you get 2 buttons. The first is bright red and says "Delete My Profile". The second is dull gray, below the fold, and says "Hide Profile from Search". Guess which button costs $19?

Then once you click the 2nd button, you get a message "You are about to permanently hide your profile. You still have credits and/or a membership available. Please Confirm that you wish to permanently hide your profile". You get this message even if you're out of credits. The membership is free, you're not losing anything. But it's just another way to try to trick you into staying on. Infidelity website is run by a bunch of sketchy fuckers, who would've thunk it?

Well said, yes.

[Nascimento]

(04-05-2015 06:42 AM)N°6 Wrote:  

Real life
Man SMV - 6
Woman SMV - 6

General dating site
Same man - 5
Same woman - 7

Vanilla sex site
Same man - 4
Same woman - 8

Therefore on the internet in general, a man needs to find a way to off-set a woman's online value. Normally this is done by him settling for a woman of a certain age or a woman of a race which is predisposed to like his.

Fetish sites, put women in the position of a car dealer when approached by a buyer who is more into the car's accessories than the car itself and the price is raised accordingly:

Same man - 3
Same woman - 9.

You need to avoid places of female sexual price inflation.

You should breakdown places where male sexual price is inflated.

[N°6]

(04-11-2015 02:42 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

(04-05-2015 06:42 AM)N°6 Wrote:  

You need to avoid places of female sexual price inflation.

You should breakdown places where male sexual price is inflated.

There aren't many places online where this happens. I saw the male to female ratio on one of the hypergamous dating sites of 20:80 but I don't think this represents an inflated male value but his actual social and sexual value.

Hybrid online-RL sites like Meetup.com and City Socializer are not bad. I have been to events where I was the only man and women were stealing each other's seats to sit next to me.

You can see the guest list before an event. ¨Personally, I don't go to events which have more than 55% men attending. There's no point as the Anglosphere dating market is stacked against men anyway so you might as well try to off-set this by attending events with a better gender ratio.

[AlonzoNites]

Man I just don't think it's worth it paying $80 a month to talk to a bunch of women. I do that shit in real life FOR FREE! lmao. And considering how OKCupid is turning out...Fuck AM lol. Maybe if I want to be a gigilo one day I might...*shrugs*

[AlonzoNites]

(04-12-2015 02:08 AM)N°6 Wrote:  

(04-11-2015 02:42 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  

(04-05-2015 06:42 AM)N°6 Wrote:  

You need to avoid places of female sexual price inflation.

You should breakdown places where male sexual price is inflated.

There aren't many places online where this happens. I saw the male to female ratio on one of the hypergamous dating sites of 20:80 but I don't think this represents an inflated male value but his actual social and sexual value.

Hybrid online-RL sites like Meetup.com and City Socializer are not bad. I have been to events where I was the only man and women were stealing each other's seats to sit next to me.

You can see the guest list before an event. ¨Personally, I don't go to events which have more than 55% men attending. There's no point as the Anglosphere dating market is stacked against men anyway so you might as well try to off-set this by attending events with a better gender ratio.

You probably bang alot of university professors huh? lol No jabs at all I'm just saying you seem smart as fuck bro!

Like I've never thought of things like that, but that makes hella sense. I'm gonna make a Meetup profile soon.

[AlonzoNites]

(04-05-2015 11:58 PM)Carlos100 Wrote:  

I suspect that it might be better in other countries. For example, it wouldn't surprise me if AM Japan has a number of Japanese housewives whose fantasy is to bang a western dude. That might be worth checking out if the price was a little better and if the site didn't have the stupid credit system.

MAN! I'd be SO down for that! The sex culture in Japan makes it WIDE OPEN!
But yea man $20 to cancel-fuck that. I wish Toronto had some Japanese girls. I like Chinese and Korean chicks, but I just know more about Japanese culture...