[godfather dust]

I'm wondering if any of you have ever worked at an all-male workplace, and what your experiences were.

I worked briefly at a place where we cut meat and prepared orders. A butcher basically. There were about 15 of us out back, all dudes. Up front there were a couple girls who handled customers.

That job was amazing. No need to filter ourselves, completely casual, hell we even drank and smoked weed at the job openly.

The work sucked but the laid back atmosphere made it fun.

Compared to other jobs I've had where I had to walk on eggshells around female managers and shit it was the best.

Which brings me to a question:
What are some industries that no female wants to be or is involved in? List anything you can think of.

[CrimsonDeep85]

Driving professionally an 18 wheeler if you're an owner operator, you can choose your dispatcher and ensure they're a guy with a logical modus operandi.

That's at least what's worked for me so far.... Sadly you still have to play bullshit power game with female planners every now and then and your dispatcher can't do shit about it

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-18-2015 03:45 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  

I'm wondering if any of you have ever worked at an all-male workplace, and what your experiences were.

I worked briefly at a place where we cut meat and prepared orders. A butcher basically. There were about 15 of us out back, all dudes. Up front there were a couple girls who handled customers.

That job was amazing. No need to filter ourselves, completely casual, hell we even drank and smoked weed at the job openly.

The work sucked but the laid back atmosphere made it fun.

Compared to other jobs I've had where I had to walk on eggshells around female managers and shit it was the best.

Which brings me to a question:
What are some industries that no female wants to be or is involved in? List anything you can think of.

As a student I worked at the airport - all menial work with 100% of men, then in my youth in construction - all men too. Then of course there was the military which was the most masculine endeavor by far. No women back then.

At corporations it sucked mostly, but in investment banking the floors were sometimes 100% male except for the assistants who were in another part of the office.

In some countries I would almost exclusively hire men due to the dangers of sexual harassment laws. In other countries the PC culture is not so bad and you can make even sexual jokes about female bosses.

Feminists have actually managed to upset the structure that much that some entrepreneurs have started avoiding hiring women.

As far as an all-male culture in the office can be good or bad depending on the men you find there. If there are only a bunch of pussies and Betas then women are a welcome distraction. In many European countries it is as of yet not forbidden to flirt, banter sometimes aggressively with female workers. But the toxic PC culture is spreading and I would avoid it ever more.

[Goldin Boy]

When I needed core curriculum courses in college in I developed the "Goldin Boy Test" to find easy A's. Sit in the class and observe the gender ratios. More women = easy coursework. Same applies for jobs. I'd suggest you look into:

1) Garbage Collection/Sanitation

2) Lineman for your electric company.

3) Any sort of manual labor.

Remember women don't want to work: They do it because they see othe women doing it and assume they should do it too(social proof). They'll avoid anything strenous or mentally challenging. You'll only encounter high-T uber dykes but I don't count them as women.

[Bones707]

In my current job, when I worked nights, it was all men and it was fun as hell. We would crack jokes at one another and we got to know one another very well. Good times.

It's why I dropped out of college. I didn't want to work in an office, in a PC corporation, or in an occupation that's mostly occupied by women or submissive dudes.

[Ice]

I worked in sales some time ago in Switzerland. The job was pretty shitty - I just did it while looking for other type of work. But the environment was really fun. There were women working there, too, but it was a very masculine and "macho" environment. People were cracking sexual jokes all the time. Some girls complained about it, but they couldn't do anything about it. The bosses didn't really care. Most of the girls were fired rather quickly because they couldn't sell. One of the top guys was fucking crazy, had been to jail and tatted up, but he was one of the top sellers of the company, he was responsible for something like 60% of the whole profit of the company alone. They didn't have nothing on him. One time we went out for drinks with the whole team and the guy got fucking hammered, took off his shirt in a rather upscale bar and ended up pulling his dick out and shoving it into the face of a female co-worker. She was pretty shocked. I just came back to Europe from a 2 year stay in New York when I started working at that company - that was really quite a different experience compared to working in the US ..

[Ice]

Yeah and some other time we went to a club with the team, we had had a very good table and free champagne for the team the whole night. I brought these two girls to the table, they were hot, both from Russia, and later I kind of grinded with one on the dance floor, but I didn't go home with her. The guys from the team for some reason thought that the girls were escorts and that I ended up going home with her. So afterwards at the office I was the "escorts guy" - I think they thought that I regularly hire hookers lol, but I didn't bother to tell them the truth, it was funny, they didn't criticise it at all, it was just kinda normal lol

[rdvirus]

Im a carpenter and work with all guys. I've worked with a few girls but never for longer than a few weeks. There is no filter when I'm at work. I can literally say anything I want. If there's an issue, it gets settled quickly.

"your work looks like a fuckin' abortion clinic"
"colder then a hookers heart today"
"be there in 2 shakes of a nuns arse"

Common phrases of the workplace haha. It's nice to be free to do as I please and speak my mind as the job itself can be stressful. Free to smoke weed as we wish, drinks once in a while if we go to a restaurant at lunch. Sometimes guys bump heads and punches get thrown but for the most part things operate smoothly.

[General Mayhem]

I worked on a huge farm the summer after I graduated high school. That place had a brilliant collection of misfits and rejects, felons, burnouts, lifelong stoners, Mexican thugs that left the cartel, and a bunch of wild 16-18 year olds.

Since I was one of the normal and educated ones I ran work crews. We could have brought down a fucking convent.

Being Infantry in the military was similar.

[TripleG]

I currently work for a large NGO in the IT department. My immediate co-workers are all men. Just about the only time women "cross our path" is when there is a complaint about one of our systems being slow or down, the rest of the time we drink coffee, smoke, talk about sports (especially European soccer), and talk about which females we want to pursue, bitch about exes & kids (my bosses are both divorced) or gossip about whose cheating on whom in the company
Pretty sure stress level would go up a notch if we had a female on our team and could no longer crack jokes and talk guy stuff.

[PrimeTime32]

I currently work at an overnight job with mostly men. Even thought the job is bullshit and the hours/pay sucks it is by far the best job I've ever had.

[Hannibal]

Yeah, generally it's a shit manual labor job. Not having to constantly censor yourself is real nice, even if the pay is average.

First job I got when I was out of highschool was a roofing job for a homegrown construction business. I think there might have been six or seven of us, the work was fucking brutal but it was still a good time. I would do it again if I didn't sunburn so bad that I wanted to kill myself.

Engineers are typically in all male workplaces and they report the highest job satisfaction out of most professions. I don't think that's a coincidence.

There's nothing special or magical about an all male workplace, it's just how it was meant to be. I find that the biggest difference is that things are a lot more low key and uncensored at the workplace and there's much more camaraderie. Guys say shit at an all male workplace that they can't say anywhere else.

That reminds me of one of those ridiculous HR videos we had to watch at one point, you ever heard of the Pike Place Fish Guys?



That's right, all male workplace, those guys fucking love it. They throw fish at people for a living.

Women are basically big children who know how to use a stove. They're a pain in the ass to deal with at work because you have no choice but to deal with them. Say the wrong thing and they'll run their fat asses to HR.

[Nelomaxwell]

I worked at a comic book shop and except for 2 women who stayed behind the counter it was all guys and most weren't pussy betas. We talked about women openly with managers' while we lifted boxes and jawboned about comics. We even set it up so that if one of us was hitting on a girl the others would wing or keep customers off as needed. (It was in Manhattan so hot chicks came in all the time.)

[jake1720]

Oil and Gas.

[RouteBackwards]

I do roofing, and even if women wanted to work this job, I doubt any could handle it based off of the physical requirements; I've had the pleasure of never working with a woman beyond communicating with the offices for my corresponding companies.

If there is one thing I can say, it is that construction in general has been my masculine outlet. It is the only place in my life where men can be men. Everything from girls we've banged past and present to whatever interesting topic came up in the news, nothing is off limits. Not only that, the shit we talk about is never censored, most of the men I work with rarely censor what they have to say about anything, and that's what I respect and enjoy most about this line of work.

[WanderingSoul]

Had a few jobs that were all males. Welder, setting up for bands at an amphitheater, small web design company. All were pretty awesome. No PC bullshit. Could say whatever you wanted. Almost no drama at all. Could talk to my bosses without having to wonder how they'd react.

Had some jobs with women bosses and almost all of them were shitty work environments. One I quit by telling me boss on the phone she was a fucking bitch and to go fuck herself. I had the flu and was home sick, which she knew, but she felt like calling to be a cunt anyways. I had conflict with her from the very first day at work. Extremely rude and disrespectful, which I don't put up with, so we butted heads from day one.

I recently turned down a job because after interviewing with who would be my boss, I knew there was no way I could work with her. Even in the interview her personality was off. Very crass and tactless. Extremely unattractive traits for a woman to possess.

[The Reactionary Tree]

I work in a female dominated profession and workplace environment. Luckily I am in a red state so it's not too PC. However, women do not handle professional criticism well at all. They immediately take it as personal. Working with all men is just easier. Less drama.

[Vicious]

As mentioned, oil & gas. It's an old boys club.

[Sooth]

Engineer here. I'm very lucky to work with a group of about 20 guys in a 6 year old company, the majority are under 35 years old. Even the boss is only 30. The core group of guys are all mates from high school. We have one female who works the books/front desk but shes old as and keeps to herself.

There is a large sense of common unity and we all share similar interests. The conversation at lunch breaks is basically exactly like this forum minus the intellectual topics. Who banged who from tinder in the weekend etc. eg giving the new guy shit because he took home a tinder girl that one of the other guys invited to the work function. She was pretty manky so he went and got tested. Still don't know whether he was clear or not. Another guy is currently into banging fat escorts and his stories have us all crying. Most of them have a red pill mentality so when I say something like "If a girl says she was raped and didn't go to the cops it's 100% bullshit" they all agree.

We're known for impromptu parties after work on any random week day, and someones car or a fork lift will get destroyed from doing skids. We burned one guys daily driver to the ground because it wouldn't start.
A while ago we were wondering how much a human bladder holds. So the next time we were drinking a couple of guys filled a coke bottle with piss. A while later everyone is trollied and the bottle of piss ends up getting splashed into the bosses face. Instead of firing the guy he opens his car door and urinates all through the interior. Not really my style but damn funny at the time and it was all laughed off the next day.

Our end of year function just gone we had a topless bar maid and two strippers later in the night, all who went home crying because the boss wouldn't stop hassling them for more and being abrasive.

I have a degree but there is absolutely no way that I ever want to climb the ladder at a big corporation. I'm happy working for a place like this with a lot of freedom and fun while living well within my means.

As to your question, woman avoid anything where they have to do physical work and are not able to gain control over anyone.
Any sort of metal work is good form my experience, welders, sheet metal fabrication. Builders, roofers, pavers, contracting (truck/digger driving), fencing etc etc.

Be careful of things like a car mechanic. I'm starting to see girls get into that sort of thing. Unsure why yet, maybe because it's a good way to get attention from all the car guys, or their blue pill dads are all "you go girl".

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-19-2015 03:23 AM)Sooth Wrote:  

Our end of year function just gone we had a topless bar maid and two strippers later in the night, all who went home crying because the boss wouldn't stop hassling them for more and being abrasive.

I would love to work in a Wolf of Wallstreet environment once:



Albeit I doubt it would be helpful with any more intellectual activities except for sales.



At some of the corporations I have dealt with it was normal to go to strip clubs and even brothels with your clients - most of it was even on company tab. The old boys network still exists to some degree, but it's not really about any patriarchy - just about men having a good time and then signing a contract by next week.

Women don't get it that we like to be among ourselves and be just men. Now those jobs are dying out ever more and men are stuck in positions where they are to behave like beaten Betas only to come home and get the same shit from wife. No wonder that many men become Players or MGTOWs.

[zatara]

I've worked in two quite similar finance offices with very different gender ratios.

One was 95/5 male/female. The only females were in low-level work - cleaners, receptionists etc. It was like a (much) lighter version of the stereotypical Wolf of Wall Street environment. Very competitive because of all the alpha males - which resulted in long hours and hard work. But very efficient in terms of work getting done because of this. There was also a great social life, with all of the lads going out for heavy drinking sessions regularly.

The other was about 65/35 male/female, with a spattering of females in all roles throughout the organisation. This was a far less intense environment. There were useless meetings to discuss EVERYTHING. HR was all over everything to enforce regulations etc. Socially it was also far more constrained, with the work nights only being a couple of close friends or else the wider group having a 'civilised' work night. But there were no 80 hour work weeks, ever. And far far more downtime during the time actually spent in the office.

The male-dominated environment is great for someone in their mid 20s I think. But considering the pay was largely similar (go figure...) the more female environment would be a lot easier to work in long-term. Especially if you had a family and wanted to ever see them.

[Chaos]

Yeah, too often. It's sometimes tiring.

This morning I got called over on a short gig on a bigass luxury yacht.
A friend of mine is the boss at the place and he brought me in to the coffee room where maybe 50 guys and 5 women were sitting

"Gentlemen, let me introduce to you my good friend Chaos!
He is gonna be around here a few days so please say hi to him but do not shake his hand.
He just came back from Asia with a bunch of new STD's that nobody have seen here before"

[Veloce]

Most of the kitchens I came up in were all male. As others have mentioned, the number one perk is being able to let anything fly without filtering yourself.

Another key element is consistency. I find that men are far more consistent. When they suck, they always suck. When they're great, they're always great. I can't think of a single chick I've worked with that was consistent. They might be great one day, but the next day they're on their period or they were up until 3am consoling her best friend during a breakup or she was dealing with her own breakup or her dog is sick or her parents are sick or her car broke down because she doesn't know how to take care of it. I've had to excuse women from the kitchen because their menstrual cramps were too painful. Hey I'm sure it sucks, but now dinner service is fucked because I'm shorthanded and no way in hell I can take disciplinary action against her.

Female bosses are a no-go. I've had two experiences now (one of them at my most recent job) and I thought, "Hey, I've got game on my side." Nope, doesn't fucking matter. Never again.

Women in restaurants should stick to pastry, or serving/hostessing. It also makes fucking them much more convenient so you're not having sex with someone you work right next to.

[Easy_C]

(02-18-2015 03:58 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

As a student I worked at the airport - all menial work with 100% of men, then in my youth in construction - all men too. Then of course there was the military which was the most masculine endeavor by far. No women back then.

At corporations it sucked mostly, but in investment banking the floors were sometimes 100% male except for the assistants who were in another part of the office.

At risk of running off a tangent, how did you manage to pull off airport -> military -> investment banking?

I'm curious because I'm trying to do the same thing in no small part because IB is one of the few male dominated white collar jobs (which I require as a result of medical problems I have from the military)

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-19-2015 11:24 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

(02-18-2015 03:58 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

As a student I worked at the airport - all menial work with 100% of men, then in my youth in construction - all men too. Then of course there was the military which was the most masculine endeavor by far. No women back then.

At corporations it sucked mostly, but in investment banking the floors were sometimes 100% male except for the assistants who were in another part of the office.

At risk of running off a tangent, how did you manage to pull off airport -> military -> investment banking?

I'm curious because I'm trying to do the same thing in no small part because IB is one of the few male dominated white collar jobs (which I require as a result of medical problems I have from the military)

Construction during holidays starting as a 16 year old than at 17 as well. At the airport I worked part-time, but doing the work that all other men there did on the weekends putting in 12 hour shifts. That was while studying economics/business so ages 19-22, but I had other jobs as well.

Military service was mandatory, but I put in some strange extensions, that was only for a year in total. I did not go to officer's school or anything, because that would have been 4 years and I did not feel like committing that long.

Investment banking was a job after the study - it became less male dominated later.

I did many other jobs from age 12 onward - newspaper delivery guy, computer salesman, pimp (escorts), security guard/bouncer, Hedge Fund analyst, regional manager over several EU countries, consultant etc. - not in that chronological order. As far as the best way to get into the field is doing the CFA and CAIA - those degrees cost next to nothing, but you only have to put in time and effort (and compete with Chinese applicants on the other side of the world - test difficulty varies with the international student body). CFA takes 3 years, but it's just 3 tests you do.