[amity]

How do you guys deal with this?
It's been happening me a bit lately.
Admittedly, mostly in loud clubs, where bitch shields can be high.
But still it's pretty demoralising when it happens.
Soft rejections I can handle, but damn I got one nasty rejection last night, two girls as good as told me to fuck off.
I gave it right back to them which felt good, but still, nasty bitches drain your mojo.
I plowed on and my buddy and me secured some rural chicks on our way out the club, and that went well, effortless even.
But it wasn't that success that stayed with me, it was the nasty wenches from the club.
Next day I'm putting it behind me, it doesn't feel as bad now.
Still though, how do you ensure that bad attitude chicks like this don't puncture your mood for the evening?

[edtf]

Fuck em they ain't shit, if they were smart they would focus on making themselves look better. You can lead the horse to water but can't make it drink. As long as you did all you could it's good

[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

Just like the above:

1) Bitchez ain't shit
2) Onto the next one.

That's all you gotta know.

HSLD

[Dalaran1991]

It's been said on this forum multiple times.

Clubs are the worst place to have pleasant experience with girls. Even your everyday sweetheart can turn into a huge bitch in a loud club where she can't pass 1 minute without a guy trying to grind her from behind.

You should feel lucky you didn't get jumped by 30 white knights in the clubs because 1 bitch shoved you else you would become the Little Dark legend, or be in the emergency room.

If you go to clubs, expect nastiness. Night game is good only for people who can have fun regardless whether they pull or not.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Dealing with rejection is the way it is.

First is learning to pick up on IOIs.
Second is to approach the hottest girls around - ones that you would love to fuck no matter what. Even if you get rejected, then it is fine.
Third is to learn that approaching women will mean rejections - there is no man on earth who is not rejected the majority of the time - even AAA-level celebrities.

Western women are used to reject men in the most humiliating way possible, if they perceive you as too low of value at first sight or are just in a nasty mood. Nightclub is especially brutal in that respect - the instant raw attraction is either there or not. If you can hardly hear her, then then there is only so much real Game you can run.

There are numerous ways to deal with a nasty rejection where you can either turn around the set (though unlikely) by making her friends laugh or by making her look stupid in front of her friends. Heartiste has a few posts on that, but likely the best mindset is to shrug it off and go to the next.

[XXL]

1. Why do you go for mediocre girls in the first place?

2. Nightgame is full of big/small rejections. The way to go about it is avoiding blowouts or sniping but having a good time and laughing off those "misunderstandings" cause fuck who cares?

I've had my phase where I wanted to be cool and flawless. So girls were having fun and I was like walking on eggshells trying not to fuck up. Which was super stupid and unrealistic. Let's get real. People go out to escape life and have fun. Some girls are stuck up and bitchy and there's no better place in the world than nightclub for them to unleash the bitch and get nasty. Besides girls often times have their own weird issues so when you appear in the wrong place and wrong time boom! you're in the middle of the shitstorm so you get those harsh fuck offs.

So you know you have to come back down to earth and see the reality for what it is. You can't be surprised by bad reactions or brushoffs in nightclubs. It's a given. Cold approach is random and nightgame is messy. Be ready for everything.

[Onto]

I understand how this feels. Nothing worse than getting rejected by a reject. Makes you feel even lower than she is.

I wonder if it's because an insecure girl knows they don't deserve a high quality guy and just act like a bitch to protect their ego.

And the same insecure girl will act like a bitch to a guy she views as lower than her because that guy is making the statement she should be attainable for him (which lowers her).

I think women who are very secure with themselves tend to act more gracious and understanding to all men.

[Pride male]

The fear or care of rejections is the root of all beta.

[Dantes]

(12-20-2014 08:11 AM)amity Wrote:  

How do you guys deal with this?
It's been happening me a bit lately.
Admittedly, mostly in loud clubs, where bitch shields can be high.
But still it's pretty demoralising when it happens.
Soft rejections I can handle, but damn I got one nasty rejection last night, two girls as good as told me to fuck off.
I gave it right back to them which felt good, but still, nasty bitches drain your mojo.
I plowed on and my buddy and me secured some rural chicks on our way out the club, and that went well, effortless even.
But it wasn't that success that stayed with me, it was the nasty wenches from the club.
Next day I'm putting it behind me, it doesn't feel as bad now.
Still though, how do you ensure that bad attitude chicks like this don't puncture your mood for the evening?

Stop placing to much importance on any one approach. Reframe your attitude and it won't have an effect on the rest of your night.

Also, I don't see the point in approaching mediocre women. In a club, you can get blown out by a 5 just as easily as a 9. Are you a club guy? Maybe you need to rethink what kind of game you are suited for.

[tallandblonde]

In another thread a member of RVF put it really well: You should never expect any type of kindness or common courtesy from women at bars and clubs.

[Agreddor]

Go all "oh dear why are you so mean" insert gay hand flick

[DarkTriad]

(12-20-2014 09:32 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Dealing with rejection is the way it is.

First is learning to pick up on IOIs.
Second is to approach the hottest girls around - ones that you would love to fuck no matter what. Even if you get rejected, then it is fine.
Third is to learn that approaching women will mean rejections - there is no man on earth who is not rejected the majority of the time - even AAA-level celebrities.

Like baseball, it's mostly a game of failure. If you fail less than 2/3rds of the time, they put you in the Hall of Fame.

[Dalaran1991]

(12-20-2014 09:57 AM)Onto Wrote:  

I understand how this feels. Nothing worse than getting rejected by a reject. Makes you feel even lower than she is.

I wonder if it's because an insecure girl knows they don't deserve a high quality guy and just act like a bitch to protect their ego.

And the same insecure girl will act like a bitch to a guy she views as lower than her because that guy is making the statement she should be attainable for him (which lowers her).

I think women who are very secure with themselves tend to act more gracious and understanding to all men.

Bingo.

The nastiest women I know have always been fuck ugly. And most of the cute-hot girls I know are actually very polite and nice. Reasons why I always advice guys to not dumpster dive.

I think there's another layer of explanation to it. People treat attractive people nicely, and a human tendency is to reflect what the world has done to them. If you grow up with people being nice to you then usually you tend to be nice to people because it has become normalized behavior. In Western countries sometimes it's fucked up with entitlement attitude, but if a girl is well raised she shouldn't have this problem.

Vice versa, if you are fuck ugly and everyone you talk to always have a reason "I gotta go" when they see you, it's easy to develop bitterness and hatred.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

This was the story of my life in high school. I was really short and assumed I'd hit it off with women who were "in the margins" so to speak.

Wrong. They were nasty. And mean. 100 percent.

And then in my senior year they found I was missing a health class credit from freshman year, so they placed me in a health class filled with freshman girls. Each one was more beautiful than the next.

This where I learned nice-looking women are usually better suited for dating since they have fewer anger issues: "Do you need help catching up on an assignment?" "Hey -- you know my brother!" "I love your sweater!!"

I took almost every girl in the class at one time or another to a different party and got a rep as a ladies man, funny enough. It was smooth sailing from there, and within months my biggest problem was keeping one girl (blonde cheerleader) from knowing I was dating another (brunette hottie).

The nasty, fugly girls that rejected me are now fat divorced loser pigs whose Facebook photos would cause this forum to crash if I posted them. Stay away from them. If you think they're bad now, imagine 20 years down the road after a couple of kids and moron husbands.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(12-20-2014 05:38 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

This was the story of my life in high school. I was really short and assumed I'd hit it off with women who were "in the margins" so to speak.

Wrong. They were nasty. And mean. 100 percent.

And then in my senior year they found I was missing a health class credit from freshman year, so they placed me in a health class filled with freshman girls. Each one was more beautiful than the next.

This where I learned nice-looking women are usually better suited for dating since they have fewer anger issues: "Do you need help catching up on an assignment?" "Hey -- you know my brother!" "I love your sweater!!"

I took almost every girl in the class at one time or another to a different party and got a rep as a ladies man, funny enough. It was smooth sailing from there, and within months my biggest problem was keeping one girl (blonde cheerleader) from knowing I was dating another (brunette hottie).

The nasty, fugly girls that rejected me are now fat divorced loser pigs whose Facebook photos would cause this forum to crash if I posted them. Stay away from them. If you think they're bad now, imagine 20 years down the road after a couple of kids and moron husbands.

heartwarming story - Days


Also remember OP - rejection is part of life - it hits the best of us - show me a man who has fucked hundreds via cold-approach and I will show you a man who was rejected by thousands at the same time:

[WestIndianArchie]

“All the time you spend tryin to get back what's been took from you there's more goin out the door. After a while you just try and get a tourniquet on it.”
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lot of good advice, but to me the "tell" is in your title.

"by mediocre chicks" means

- you expect girls that you only kinda think are attractive to open their legs for you. Probably because you have the mistaken idea that your subjective view of a woman's attractiveness should control how she acts.

a) she might be more attractive than you realize
b) you don't realize how how she looks is not related to how she behaves or who she is.

- you expect the best chicks to blow you out

a) people live up to your expectation, so expect attractive bitches to be smart enough to recognize the great sex they could have with you...

There's probably some self image, inner game stuff when it comes to your expectations about women and whether you deserve them. Believe me dude, I don't even know you, won't ever meet you, but you deserve these chicks. Especially the beautiful ones.

And given that there are so many women in the world, it's better to let these chicks just blow through you.

It'll be hard to get over the sting of rejection, but you must. It's what you need to be able to do if you want to be a player.

__________________________________________________

There are a lot of ways into Vagina Valhalla

1) Zen - get used to rejection, expect rejection, welcome rejection.
It should wash over you

2) Rejection-jitsu - If a chick is harsh with her blow out, take that emotional energy and increase the heat. You may find that her initial defensive move was reflexive, and a savvy reaction can turn a blow out into a blow up and then a blow job.

"I hated you when we first met" - something she'll tell you after she swallowed a load

3) Stop playing it safe - Maybe you should be getting rejected more. If you ramp up your approach, you're going to start cutting out the chicks

a) that don't like you
b) don't want to fuck on your time table.

Every experience is teaching you something. You willing to learn? To change?

WIA

[General Mayhem]

Not that there is much to add after WIA's take, I opt for the zen approach.

Yeah it's nice to tell a bitch off, but I don't like to give more to a bitch than I have to.

Raise an eyebrow, pretend that she smells like cat piss and walk the fuck away.

Walking out at bar close with another broad will say more than the best retort.

[MrXY]

Night game is s contact sport.

If you want to play, prepare for some lacerations and contusions.

[The Beast1]

If you don't like getting blown out in clubs, try a different venue. I personally don't do well in clubs, but a nice lounge or bar will make up for it.

Just make sure you go to a place that isn't blasting music into sonic wave territory.

[amity]

Gentlemen, I really appreciate all the constructive replies, some really solid useful info, examples and advice in there, which I can take on board.
I've learned so much from you RVF'ers over the last couple of years.
You're absolutely right, the few stunners I spoke with on the night might not have taken the d (or even the tongue) but everyone of them was pleasant and polite, it was the 'average' girls who I foolishly expected to reciprocate my interest that were either a)indifferent or b)outright hostile.
Night game is not my forté, so my approaches are not always the most congruent or confident. (McQueen's been dropping some wisdom on this, here's one example: https://twitter.com/RealCMcQueen/status/...8699983872)
It was afterwards, when myself and a couple of friends joined some girls in their place, where we could actually hear other, that's when my natural game worked well, my 'cool and interesting' side, those girls lapped it up.
So long as you're taking something from these approaches (the unsuccessful ones as much as the successes) it allows you to improve yourself for the next time.