[Saweeep]

A few weeks back we had this thread:

GQ's man of the year

And now we get this:

How to be a male feminist

"But what would this mean in practice? I received many different answers from all over the world. Often these answers were about the way that boys are brought up to be men - "boys don't cry", "a real man is strong", "the male is the breadwinner and the head of the household". These ideas are still surprisingly deeply rooted among men and women even in countries that view themselves as progressive and gender-equal.

Others noted that men seem to be doing very nicely from our patriarchal system, thank you very much. They still hold the power at almost all levels of society, from the boardroom to the bedroom. Why would they give this up? Why would a man even want be part of the feminist movement?"

She has a good point...

It's only since joining this forum that I have become consciously aware of this garbage being shoved down men's throats from every angle.

As I said in the last GQ thread I stopped buying the magazine a while back; an unconscious decision. Now I know why.

I'm bored of this shit.

[Saweeep]

And for those of you who want to see (you all do really); here is our author in her full glory:



Edit: how do I make this hideous face smaller???

[Days of Broken Arrows]

This is one of those cases where you want to repost the entire article with the byline because we don't want to encourage them with clicks. I'll be waiting.

[Saweeep]

ARTICLE IN FULL

I can tell George Chesterton what has happened to the male feminist. I met many of them recently in Delhi, India, at a global conference on gender justice attended by 1,200 people from 94 countries. Almost two thirds of the participants were men - the other third being women's rights and transgender activists. The conference celebrated the hundreds of projects and programmes around the world that engage men in the feminist project. It was organised by the Men Engage network, which has 700 member organisations.

I was there because as a feminist woman and a writer, I had become increasingly concerned about many of the issues that Chesterton writes about so convincingly. Violence against women has remained at the same levels for decades, cutting across class, race and geography. Women still only make up 21.9 per cent of parliamentarians globally. Of the top Fortune 500 corporations in the US, only 24 are female-headed. Women and girls are still the ones with the double burden of bringing home the bacon and cleaning the toilets - they do the majority of unpaid work and childcare in the home on top of making up 40 per cent of the world's formal labour force.

Masculinity and socialisation

I had worked for 15 years on women's and girls' rights all over the world but it took a question from my son George, then 8 years old, to spur me to action. "Why are you obsessed with women's rights?" he asked. And I realised that he too had his place in the feminist story. As most women and girls live with men, gender equality is never going to be achieved unless men get on board.

But what would this mean in practice? I decided to find out for myself. During the research for my book Feminism and Men, I received many different answers from all over the world. Often these answers were about the way that boys are brought up to be men - "boys don't cry", "a real man is strong", "the male is the breadwinner and the head of the household". These ideas are still surprisingly deeply rooted among men and women even in countries that view themselves as progressive and gender-equal.

Others noted that men seem to be doing very nicely from our patriarchal system, thank you very much. They still hold the power at almost all levels of society, from the boardroom to the bedroom. Why would they give this up? Why would a man even want be part of the feminist movement?

Feminism benefits men too

The answer from the men working on gender equality for many years came back clearly - because they should, because feminism benefits the women in their lives, and because it benefits men too. "Not only does feminism give woman a voice, but it also clears the way for men to free themselves from the stranglehold of traditional masculinity. When we hurt the women in our lives, we hurt ourselves, and we hurt our community, too" said Byron Hurt, African- American documentary film-maker and anti-sexist activist.

Men who are violent are not happy men - and they often pass this anger on to their sons, who can turn this on the women in their lives - or on themselves. Suicide is one of the biggest killers of young men in many countries, including the UK.

How to be a feminist

As Helen Lewis points out in Chesterton's piece, fatherhood is one way in to changing these harmful ways of being a man. Which is why Men Care, now active in 25 countries, supports "You are my father" media campaigns from Turkey to Brazil to India, as well as working through the health system in countries like South Africa, running groups for fathers and fathers to be in maternity clinics.

Men are also increasingly demonstrating and campaigning alongside women against violence against women.

UN Women has recently launched its "He for She" campaign calling for men to sign up for gender equality.

So there are many ways for men to join the feminist project. They can work with boys in school, like the Great Men Value Women project here in the UK. They can be active in "bystander" groups of men who intervene when they see violence or abuse or sexual harassment being committed against women. They can join MenEngage, as individuals or as organisations.

They need to be clear that they stand alongside women, and be careful not to take over. And they can return to the feminist slogan: "The personal is political". The Delhi conference ended with a call to action, asking men and boys to "reflect critically on their own power and privilege, and to develop personal visions of how to be gender-just men."

Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka, from UN Women, was also in Delhi. In her invitation to men to join the gender equality movement, she said: "In Africa, we have a saying that I want to leave with you. 'If you go alone you go fast, but if you go together you go far'. Let us go far together."

So, I say, men should go for it. Don't be afraid of feminism or feminists. In joining us, you are part of a steadily growing minority all over the world.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

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Feminism benefits men too

Those years of crushing celibacy were sure a significant benefit!

[Foolsgo1d]

I have never heard of a male feminist having groupies nor getting laid whilst adhering to its teachings.

[ColSpanker]

Christ, she reminds me of the psychology instructor I had in college. A whacked-out hag who was using a campus rape prevention program to push her own anti-male agenda. I ended up getting a B in that class because I told her everything she wanted to hear. But afterwards I felt like a cheap whore. Never took another psychology class again.

[heavy]

Why does GQ have articles by women?

Fashion and style? RVF has provided better advice for me than a woman could ever give.

[big poppa]

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Men who are violent are not happy men - and they often pass this anger on to their sons, who can turn this on the women in their lives - or on themselves. Suicide is one of the biggest killers of young men in many countries

She draws the link that violent men are the cause of other men committing suicide, as if we should just trust her knowledge. without any supporting evidence.

[SteveMcMahon]

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I can tell George Chesterton what has happened to the male feminist. I met many of them recently in Delhi, India

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Violence against women has remained at the same levels for decades,

“Domestic violence has fallen from a peak of more than one million incidents in 1993 to just under 400,000 last year, the crime survey said.” - The Times, 19 July 2012

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Women still only make up 21.9 per cent of parliamentarians globally. Of the top Fortune 500 corporations in the US, only 24 are female-headed.

Yes, women are inferior to men at getting elected or getting to the top of a big successful business. They lack leadership ability.

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Women and girls are still the ones with the double burden of bringing home the bacon and cleaning the toilets - they do the majority of unpaid work and childcare in the home on top of making up 40 per cent of the world's formal labour force.

And what? You want clean toilets and children to be cared for, right?

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I had worked for 15 years on women's and girls' rights all over the world but it took a question from my son George, then 8 years old, to spur me to action. "Why are you obsessed with women's rights?" he asked. And I realised that he too had his place in the feminist story.

Poor little bastard. Should've stuck to playing Pokemon.

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As most women and girls live with men, gender equality is never going to be achieved unless men get on board.

"Gender equality" is never going to be achieved because the "genders" aren't interchangeable.

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But what would this mean in practice? I decided to find out for myself.

Sounds like this daft cow doesn't clean any toilets after all, she has a lot of free time on her hands.

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During the research for my book Feminism and Men, I received many different answers from all over the world. Often these answers were about the way that boys are brought up to be men - "boys don't cry", "a real man is strong", "the male is the breadwinner and the head of the household". These ideas are still surprisingly deeply rooted among men and women even in countries that view themselves as progressive and gender-equal.

When reality collides with your theories, your theories were probably bollocks to begin with.

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Others noted that men seem to be doing very nicely from our patriarchal system, thank you very much. They still hold the power at almost all levels of society, from the boardroom to the bedroom. Why would they give this up? Why would a man even want be part of the feminist movement?

Because he's a dickless incel like David Futrelle or a sexually predatory sociopath like Hugo Schwyzer.

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Feminism benefits men too

But you just said it wouldn't.

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because feminism benefits the women in their lives,

Ever seen a happy feminist?

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"Not only does feminism give woman a voice, but it also clears the way for men to free themselves from the stranglehold of traditional masculinity.

Nah, fuck off.

[Grange]

When "masculinity" is used as as negative term that's your sign that the writer is full of shit. Goes double for "hyper-masculinity." Women don't understand what masculinity is or entails, so when they advocate our being freed from it they are not doing us any favors.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

"They need to be clear that they stand alongside women, and be careful not to take over. And they can return to the feminist slogan: "The personal is political". The Delhi conference ended with a call to action, asking men and boys to "reflect critically on their own power and privilege, and to develop personal visions of how to be gender-just men.""

Why does no one think to question this slogan? Why do people just accept that this slogan has value and isn't malicious in intent?

"The personal is political" is tyrannical. It gave us less freedom. It made our every day lives subject to government scrutiny, from the way we interacted at work to the way women can withdraw consent at any point in the sex act for it to suddenly become "rape."

It allowed the family courts to litigate the minutia of how kids are cared for and/or bartered between parents. It's the reason there are mazes of laws you have to deal with when you have a kid, from having to deal with car seats to how much you can spank.

The only people who believe that our personal lives are "political" in nature and those who want us to be under total control of government. They want for us to be "regulated" in every manner. This mode of thinking took hold after around 1970 and is the reason for things like the 'affirmative consent" law in California.

Government was not supposed to be involved in people's lives to this extent. I'm old enough to remember the Cold War, and they used to tell us horror stories about the Soviet Union that now seem like predictions as to what American has become ("The government tells people how they can and can't have sex!").

Beyond that, the idea of "male privilege" is so misbegotten and off-the-mark I can't even begin to tear that apart. Someone could write a book about how screwed-up that phrase is. The cover could be a graveyard of dead male soldiers or hospital pics of all the disabled amputee veterans.

Finally, this author has a lot of audacity thinking she can speak for men. When men speak for women, they go batshit insane, so they should know not to try and define what men should be.

I had asked for this article to be posted in full. I'm sorry I did.

[AnonymousBosch]

(12-16-2014 09:05 AM)heavy Wrote:  

Why does GQ have articles by women?

I was wondering this a few weeks ago. The GQ website skews slightly towards women, and 27% of its print media readers are female.

I also stumbled across this study. GQ is, apparently, the magazine with the highest gay readership:

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Gayest
1. GQ, 10.39% of male readers are gay/bi
2. Entertainment Weekly, 10.35%
3. TV Guide, 5.46%
4. People, 5.1%
5. Newsweek, 4.74% (tie)
6. Time, 4.74% (tie)
7. Men's Health, 4.68%
8. National Geographic, 4.1%
9. Consumer Reports, 3.96%
10. U.S. News, 3.9%

Straightest
1. North American Hunter, 99.9% of male readers are straight
2. North American Fisherman, 99.5%
3. Four Wheeler, 99.45%
4. Guns & Ammo, 99.43%
5. Sporting News, 99.41%
6. American Rifleman, 99.37%
7. Cycle World, 99.25%
8. Stuff, 99.23% (tie)
9. Field & Stream, 99.23 (tie)
10. Midwest Living, 99.23 (tie)

[Glaucon]

GQ: How to become a male loser

should be the title

[perverted sage]

I have a theory the more testosterone a man has the less likely he will become a male feminist.

[Deluge]

(12-16-2014 09:58 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

I also stumbled across this study. GQ is, apparently, the magazine with the highest gay readership:

Hardly surprising considering it's the most read men's style magazine in the world. 10% of male readers is lower than I'd expected. And I expected way way more for Men's Health.

[WanderingSoul]

The RVF alternative to GQueer magazine:

http://masculine-style.com/

[JoyStick]

GQ must stand for gay queers.

edit: damn it, rio beat me to the joke by a minute.

[TheWastelander]

(12-16-2014 08:14 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

ARTICLE IN FULL

I can tell George Chesterton what has happened to the male feminist. I met many of them recently in Delhi, India, at a global conference on gender justice attended by 1,200 people from 94 countries.

Oh, fuck off.

[Deluge]

(12-16-2014 10:03 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

The RVF alternative to GQueer magazine:

http://masculine-style.com/

Tanner barely posts anymore though.

http://hespokestyle.com/
http://www.wellbuiltstyle.com/
http://www.kinowear.com/posts/
http://www.thefineyounggentleman.com/

Stay fresh RVF

[Felix88]

^I was just about to say the same thing, JoyStick. Couldn't get the satisfaction of saying it first, oh well.

[Mike5055]

Male Feminist game?

Nah. No one would want to sleep with those hags.

[kmhour]

I read GQ for the style information. more and more find myself flipping past the bullshit social articles. what the fuck does Lindy West have to do with gentlemen quarterly?

[Dark Knowledge]

This was the line that got me

"Not only does feminism give woman a voice, but it also clears the way for men to free themselves from the stranglehold of traditional masculinity. When we hurt the women in our lives, we hurt ourselves, and we hurt our community, too" "

Yes because traditional masculinity entails brutalizing and hurting women.

The continual demonization of masculinity by these leftist marxist turds will be the end of the species.

[Surreyman]

GQ is dead to me now.