[Bad Hussar]

Was checking out a few time lapse videos from the International Space Station earlier and the footage really impressed me. So I thought I'd start a thread and kick it off by posting two video's that incorporate music to get started. Please post more video's that you think are good.

As an aside: Do any forum members know how "true" the colours in these video's are? They seem overexposed to me, and some colours enhanced, but I have never been up in space, nor am I an astrophysicist so don't really know for sure. For example the Aurora Borealis looks authentic to me with the telltale dullish green hue, but the entire edge of the atmosphere coloured green looks strange. Does the edge of the atmosphere really look green from low earth orbit?

Anyway, here are the videos:

[kosko]

Fawk. Seeing that live would give me a massive boner. The storm clouds and northern lights are amazing from that angle.

[UroboricForms]

Its stunning. Its always been my greatest dream to see the world from that kind of perspective. Nothing better.

I would hazard a guess that it has been processed at least a little bit, its not uncommon to use false colour in astronomy photographs to see more detail.

[TheBulldozer]

"The Overview Effect," is the concept of seeing Earth from Space.

It's a phenomena explored by scientists who have documented the experiences of those who have been in Space. It's a fascinating, yet totally sensible idea that one's perspective about really everything on Earth drastically changes once they have the top down 'fragile' look at Earth.

[Veloce]

(12-02-2014 10:32 AM)MaleDefined Wrote:  

"The Overview Effect," is the concept of seeing Earth from Space.

It's a phenomena explored by scientists who have documented the experiences of those who have been in Space. It's a fascinating, yet totally sensible idea that one's perspective about really everything on Earth drastically changes once they have the top down 'fragile' look at Earth.

I heard about this as well, can't remember the documentary.

I imagine it's an awful lot like taking acid in that you never really "come down".

[kaotic]

It's funny how so tiny and insignificant our problems are compared to the rest of the universe.

[Praetor Lupus]

The second one was perfection, particularly in the choice of music.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

It's beautiful because it's not only far away enough to grant a great perspective on our world, but also because it's too high to be able to contemplate "oh shit if I fall I'm gonna die". At that height, the ground is simply an abstraction.

[speakeasy]

What's amazing too is to think about how thin a slice of this Earth we can even live on. Here's some crazy science to throw out... If you look at a cross section of the planet:



The surface we walk on is a very tiny slice of the entire world's volume. Even the oceans are extremely shallow compared to the distance to the core. Yet on a human scale, the ocean doesn't seem shallow to us. Here is the ocean to human scale with that little black pixel at the top being a human:



Yet it only takes a few feet of water to drown a human and without technology to assist us the best free diver has only gone down 700 ft out of the 36,000 ft to the bottom of the ocean.

On the other side of the spectrum, we have the atmophere. It's 62 miles from the surface to the Karmin line where space (somewhat) officially begins. Yet there is so little of this atmosphere we could actually occupy. The Death Zone is about 26000ft or just under 5 miles above sea level. That is the limit of the body's ability to produce enough red blood cells to sustain us in a low oxygen environment. Beyond that we die. But even then, most people can't be comfortable past 15,000 ft. The highest altitude settlements sit at about 16,500ft.

So when you look at the entire Earth's volume from the core thousands of miles below our feet to the Karmin line where space is reached, the only area we can safely exist might as well be paper thin relatively speaking. It really shows how fragile we are as well as the whole ecosystem. Outside of this extremely thin zone, no life we are aware of exists.

This little dot that the Cassini spacecraft too is Earth viewed from 900 million miles away. We exist only on an atomically thin slice of that dot suspending in the middle of nothingness. Crazy shit! Makes it hard to be egotistical or get mad about anything when you realize how insignificant you are in the grand scheme.

[spokepoker]

Kind of puts all this feminist bullshit into a different perspective, 'course when I have to dismantle and repair my garbage disposal, that also puts it into perspective.

Space is truly beautiful. I hope it becomes a common place to visit within my lifetime.

[getdownonit]

This thread:



That night video is impressive. Space is the shit.

Powers of Ten is still the industry standard in my book. Showcases space, biology, and even math like exponents.

[spokepoker]

(12-02-2014 06:11 PM)getdownonit Wrote:  

Powers of Ten is still the industry standard in my book. Showcases space, biology, and even math like exponents.

The narrator sounds like the Dr from Total Recall:

[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

(12-02-2014 06:11 PM)getdownonit Wrote:  

Powers of Ten is still the industry standard in my book. Showcases space, biology, and even math like exponents.

You break the speed of light at exactly 2:05 into the video, for anyone wondering

HSLD

[FretDancer]

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As an aside: Do any forum members know how "true" the colours in these video's are? They seem overexposed to me, and some colours enhanced, but I have never been up in space, nor am I an astrophysicist so don't really know for sure.

Yeah I agree. I wonder what kind of gear/equipment they used to record this footage?

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It's funny how so tiny and insignificant our problems are compared to the rest of the universe.

Indeed. Puts a whole different perspective when you consider how much we dedicate ourselves to constantly chasing new pussy.

[Bad Hussar]

(12-02-2014 01:20 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  

The second one was perfection, particularly in the choice of music.

Ja, I also thought the music was great. Apparently produced by an outfit from LA called "Two Steps from Hell" who concentrate on music for movie trailers. The track is called "Freedom Fighters" and was apparently used for a Star Trek movie trailer. This track could be very good if they lengthened it to at least 4 minutes.

[infowarrior1]

(12-02-2014 04:49 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  

Kind of puts all this feminist bullshit into a different perspective, 'course when I have to dismantle and repair my garbage disposal, that also puts it into perspective.

Space is truly beautiful. I hope it becomes a common place to visit within my lifetime.

Don't let the idiots and modernists ruin space with their degenerate culture. Who knows what monstrosities may be built in space that impedes the natural beauty of space. Like this:



Imagine space with all the monstrosities of modernist ugly architecture as well as the consumerism of McDonalds and the like.

[spokepoker]

Huh? That shit would be on planets, and you wouldn't see them from orbit.
There's plenty of room and resources out there, so it may take a few million years to make any noticeable difference.

[infowarrior1]

(12-05-2014 05:43 AM)spokepoker Wrote:  

Huh? That shit would be on planets, and you wouldn't see them from orbit.
There's plenty of room and resources out there, so it may take a few million years to make any noticeable difference.

I would not rule out floating metropolises in space with those kind of buildings.

[spokepoker]

If they have the luxury of building artistic crap, it's probably going to have to be consumer friendly, to attract business and tourism. So, it would be cylindrical, to create inertial gravity for the tourists.
Waste of money to build blocky if nobody wants to visit it and spend moeny there.
Zero G is fun, but people aren't going to be spending money for a week in it. It's bad enough being sea sick on a cruise, would be worse floating around being sick.
Those buildings will be on other moons/planets, which is fine.

[Engineer]

(12-02-2014 10:09 AM)Bad Hussar Wrote:  

(snip)
As an aside: Do any forum members know how "true" the colours in these video's are? They seem overexposed to me, and some colours enhanced, but I have never been up in space, nor am I an astrophysicist so don't really know for sure. For example the Aurora Borealis looks authentic to me with the telltale dullish green hue, but the entire edge of the atmosphere coloured green looks strange. Does the edge of the atmosphere really look green from low earth orbit?
(snip)

Awesome thread. Here's the lowdown on the atmospheric colors:

http://www.auroranightglow.blogspot.com/

The colors are real but sometimes very faint, caused by sunlight exciting oxygen (green) nitrogen (red) and sodium (yellow).

You can use this effect to make an "artificial star" to guide your large ground-based telescope optics, using fast-steering mirrors to center a laser spot hitting the sodium layer. (If there is no suitable real star near your target to guide on)

[Icepasian]

(12-05-2014 05:11 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

(12-02-2014 04:49 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  

Kind of puts all this feminist bullshit into a different perspective, 'course when I have to dismantle and repair my garbage disposal, that also puts it into perspective.

Space is truly beautiful. I hope it becomes a common place to visit within my lifetime.

Imagine space with all the monstrosities of modernist ugly architecture as well as the consumerism of McDonalds and the like.

Imagine the kinds of societies people will be able to create when they aren't forced to live within a million miles of the modernists and dull consumers. That's the true dream of space. Freedom. The freedom to be apart and build something new. It's essentially the "New World" of our era.

[Bad Hussar]

(12-05-2014 07:27 AM)Engineer Wrote:  

(12-02-2014 10:09 AM)Bad Hussar Wrote:  

(snip)
As an aside: Do any forum members know how "true" the colours in these video's are? They seem overexposed to me, and some colours enhanced, but I have never been up in space, nor am I an astrophysicist so don't really know for sure. For example the Aurora Borealis looks authentic to me with the telltale dullish green hue, but the entire edge of the atmosphere coloured green looks strange. Does the edge of the atmosphere really look green from low earth orbit?
(snip)

Awesome thread. Here's the lowdown on the atmospheric colors:

http://www.auroranightglow.blogspot.com/

The colors are real but sometimes very faint, caused by sunlight exciting oxygen (green) nitrogen (red) and sodium (yellow).

You can use this effect to make an "artificial star" to guide your large ground-based telescope optics, using fast-steering mirrors to center a laser spot hitting the sodium layer. (If there is no suitable real star near your target to guide on)

Thanks for the link. Hadn't seen that. I asked specifically about the green because old shots from the lunar missions just show a sort of thin bluish haze. Seems like the video's creators did enhance the colours but not by all that much.

That's something that has always frustrated me about google images of the Aurora Borealis. 90+ % of the returned images on the few pages are so obviously substantially enhanced. Annoys me since I've always wanted to see the Northern Lights and may just do something rash and go on a quick trip to Kiruna in Sweden early in the new year if I can bear to part with the cash. Somehow having "fake" pictures dominating google upsets me.

[Icepasian]

(12-08-2014 01:53 PM)Bad Hussar Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 07:27 AM)Engineer Wrote:  

(12-02-2014 10:09 AM)Bad Hussar Wrote:  

(snip)
As an aside: Do any forum members know how "true" the colours in these video's are? They seem overexposed to me, and some colours enhanced, but I have never been up in space, nor am I an astrophysicist so don't really know for sure. For example the Aurora Borealis looks authentic to me with the telltale dullish green hue, but the entire edge of the atmosphere coloured green looks strange. Does the edge of the atmosphere really look green from low earth orbit?
(snip)

Awesome thread. Here's the lowdown on the atmospheric colors:

http://www.auroranightglow.blogspot.com/

The colors are real but sometimes very faint, caused by sunlight exciting oxygen (green) nitrogen (red) and sodium (yellow).

You can use this effect to make an "artificial star" to guide your large ground-based telescope optics, using fast-steering mirrors to center a laser spot hitting the sodium layer. (If there is no suitable real star near your target to guide on)

Thanks for the link. Hadn't seen that. I asked specifically about the green because old shots from the lunar missions just show a sort of thin bluish haze. Seems like the video's creators did enhance the colours but not by all that much.

That's something that has always frustrated me about google images of the Aurora Borealis. 90+ % of the returned images on the few pages are so obviously substantially enhanced. Annoys me since I've always wanted to see the Northern Lights and may just do something rash and go on a quick trip to Kiruna in Sweden early in the new year if I can bear to part with the cash. Somehow having "fake" pictures dominating google upsets me.

I decided to look into what you're talking about and found a post which details why there are differences in what you see and what your camera captures in regards to the Northern/Southern Lights. http://intothenightphoto.blogspot.com/20...amera.html

[Bad Hussar]

^^^Icepasian

That's a very, very interesting explanation. I did always find it odd that there where so many "photoshopped" images that came up, but the link above gives a much better reason (obeying Occams Razor) of why they all look enhanced.

Thanks for the link.

[speakeasy]

^^^ Not sure I agree with that writers explanation of why auroras are brighter through the camera. The cone cells in your eye don't turn off at night. That's why you can see red and green stop lights just fine. Or see see all the brilliant colors of a fireworks display.

I think the main reason is exposure times with night photography. More exposure means more saturation.