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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

A couple of days after a jihadist ran down 2 soldiers in a small Quebec town, gunshots have been fired in the seat of Canadian government, in Ottawa. One gunmen dead, other is presumed to still be on the loose. One soldier shot.

Downtown Ottawa is in lockdown.

News is still breaking.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/politics/parlia...-1.2808710
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Shooters on the loose in different locations in the city.
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Shots INSIDE Parliament Hill. This is nuts!




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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Canadian Capital On Lock Down As A Result Of Ongoing "Terrorist" Shooting Incident - Live Webcast:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-22...t-lockdown

^Looks like Canuckistan is under attack.

Is this a possible attack by an ISIS sleeper cell?
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Quote: (10-22-2014 11:58 AM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

Canadian Capital On Lock Down As A Result Of Ongoing "Terrorist" Shooting Incident - Live Webcast:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-22...t-lockdown

^Looks like Canuckistan is under attack.

Is this a possible attack by an ISIS sleeper cell?

if the number of Shwarma restaurants in Ottawa and Toronto are any indicators of the potential population to draw from, its possible.

I wonder if they are going to do a boston style lockdown of ottawa?

Why do the heathen rage and the people imagine a vain thing? Psalm 2:1 KJV
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Quote: (10-22-2014 12:23 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

if the number of Shwarma restaurants in Ottawa and Toronto are any indicators of the potential population to draw from, its possible.
Or recent converts as the guy who ran over two soldiers in St-Jean-sur-le-Richelieu yesterday was a recent convert to Islam.
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

I'm in Europe for now, but Ottawa is my homebase when I'm in Canada. I've lived and worked downtown so I'm very familiar with the area. I'll be there in December. I'm saddened to see this.

One of my favourite simple pleasures in life is going for long walks throughout the downtown of whatever city I happen to be calling home. I've gone on many walks through downtown Ottawa, day and night, summer and winter, often stopping in front of the Parliament, the War Memorial and the Rideau Centre Mall.

The Parliament building is very accessible to the public. The front lawns are open to the public at all times. They're very much like a public park, with even dogs being allowed. During the summer months, many people will congregate there, enjoying the sunshine, throwing a frisbee or football, etc. Every Wednesday at Noon there is a free Yoga class attended by hundreds of Ottawa's hottest girls.

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At anytime, you can walk right up to the front door without any kind of harassment from security. If you wore a winter jacket and acted normal, you could easily conceal a couple of pistols and get into the building to start shooting. When you walk around the side of the building, you can peer into the windows. There are a few police cruisers that rotate around the building, but the security presence is minimal or at the very least, unobtrusive.

Around the back of the building, which was built on a high bluff, overlooking the Ottawa River, you have some really great views, where you can see the National Art Gallery, the US Embassy, the old Catholic church, etc. It's a nice place to go for a walk, for locals and tourists alike. I've taken dates there.

This accessibility is something Canadians pride themselves on. If you've ever visited Washington, for example, you've seen how far removed the White House is from anything. There are football field lengths of lawn between the White House and its security fencing. In Canada, our Prime Minister's home is fenced off, yes, but not to that extent. On Halloween it is open to trick-or-treaters and the PM gives out candy. I know that his son went to the public high school in the city centre (close to where the shootings happened today). I doubt he has a security detail. Spend enough time downtown and you'll eventually cross paths with high-profile politicians (though not the PM), unescorted with no security. Overall, Canadian politicians and its democratic institutions (for all their faults) are much more accessible to the people than in other Western countries.

Sadly, with that kind of openness, it was just a matter of time before an incident like this took place. I guess we had all hoped that something like this would never happen in Canada, but it finally has. Hopefully, Parliament Hill remains accessible to Canadians going forward, but it would be understandable if security now gets tightened.
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

As far as I know, we still don't know for sure if the gunmen are Islamists, but there is one thing we can be sure of : there will still be anti-gun activists who will whine about stricter gun control in Canada.
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Quote: (10-22-2014 12:39 PM)PABeaulieu Wrote:  

As far as I know, we still don't know for sure if the gunmen are Islamists, but there is one thing we can be sure of : there will still be anti-gun activists who will whine about stricter gun control in Canada.

Wouldn't be the first time I remember reading about École Polytechnique massacre.
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Ottawa has a v high number of Middle Easterners and Somalians...I might eat my words but it's very likely one of these groups responsible for the mayhem. Or a newly converted white jihadist like the Montreal idiot who ran over the soldiers in Quebec this week.

P.S. The soldier who was shot, a reservist, has been declared dead.
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Quote: (10-22-2014 12:39 PM)PABeaulieu Wrote:  

As far as I know, we still don't know for sure if the gunmen are Islamists, but there is one thing we can be sure of : there will still be anti-gun activists who will whine about stricter gun control in Canada.

Canada murder rate per 100,000 people is 1.6, US murder rate is 3x higher at 4.7. US gun ownership rate vs. Canada? Also 3x higher.

Probably a coincidence. [Image: dodgy.gif]
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Let's try not to derail the thread with gun control arguments.

Instead, let's be glad armed men killed one of these murdering scumbags. I hope the authorities kill the rest of them.

"Men willingly believe what they wish." - Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico, Book III, Ch. 18
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Quote: (10-22-2014 01:07 PM)Stun Wrote:  

Quote: (10-22-2014 12:39 PM)PABeaulieu Wrote:  

As far as I know, we still don't know for sure if the gunmen are Islamists, but there is one thing we can be sure of : there will still be anti-gun activists who will whine about stricter gun control in Canada.

Canada murder rate per 100,000 people is 1.6, US murder rate is 3x higher at 4.7. US gun ownership rate vs. Canada? Also 3x higher.

Probably a coincidence. [Image: dodgy.gif]

Correlation is not causation.

Maybe you should take a look at the violent crime rates in areas with strict gun control vs permissive gun control in the US on a broad scale; you might be surprised what you find.
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

I don't want to derail the thread with gun control claptrap but Harper has started to loosen gun laws by scraping the gun registry for rifles and shotguns and destroying the data. Furthermore, the right to bear arms is not enshrined in the Canadian constitution - it's considered a privilege and treated as such.
Frankly, the correlation of the high levels of violence with the high levels of gun ownership that you find in the US have negatively coloured the perception of Canadians re gun ownership and most are happy with the current gun laws which are far stronger than our neighbours to the south.
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Ah yes, I forgot that perception trumps facts. Carry on.
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Quote: (10-22-2014 02:22 PM)weambulance Wrote:  

Ah yes, I forgot that perception trumps facts. Carry on.

Facts have already been provided to you, courtesy of Stun. You didn't provide any yourself.
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

An ex soldier is dead. They're targeting soldiers, as this is probably linked to the guy who ran over two soldiers yesterday.

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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Quote: (10-22-2014 03:02 PM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:  

An ex soldier is dead. They're targeting soldiers, as this is probably linked to the guy who ran over two soldiers yesterday.

another shooting victim or the ID of the dead shooter is ex soldier?

Why do the heathen rage and the people imagine a vain thing? Psalm 2:1 KJV
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Quote: (10-22-2014 03:59 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

Quote: (10-22-2014 03:02 PM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:  

An ex soldier is dead. They're targeting soldiers, as this is probably linked to the guy who ran over two soldiers yesterday.

another shooting victim or the ID of the dead shooter is ex soldier?

The victim - he's a reservist soldier who was on ceremonial guard at the National War Memorial.

HSLD
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

A bunch of photos of the soldier who was killed have flooded Twitter.
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Ottawa Shooter Idenfitied As Canadian National Michael Zehaf Bibeau, Whose Passport Was Recently Seized:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-22...haf-bibeau

^Looks like a jihadi attack.
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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Quote: (10-22-2014 11:45 AM)Vronsky Wrote:  

Shots INSIDE Parliament Hill. This is nuts!




I like how the female officer hangs back until the others have finished shooting and then runs to try to catch up.

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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Quote: (10-22-2014 02:53 PM)Vronsky Wrote:  

Quote: (10-22-2014 02:22 PM)weambulance Wrote:  

Ah yes, I forgot that perception trumps facts. Carry on.

Facts have already been provided to you, courtesy of Stun. You didn't provide any yourself.

There are other threads for this discussion. Let's stick to news on this one.

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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

New video footage from CBC at the moment of the shootings inside Centre Block. (Couldn't embed.) It sounds like MZB got off 2 shotgun shots at as yet unknown targets, then fired one more at the (fearlessly) approaching security personnel before they lit him up.

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Gunmen fired shots near Parliament Hill in Ottawa

Apparently the guy's mom is a bigwig.

https://twitter.com/ctvnorma/status/525116294048145408

Also, love how the top rated comments on the CBC are all bashing Harper, as if he single handed brought us this mess. Typical Canadian leftists; let's just keep our head in the sand and keep importing the world's trash, then cue blaming conservatives when these ticking time bombs go off.

Canada needs the Rhinoceros Party more than ever.
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