Which is the best type of game for FSU girls?: asshole game or nice guy game? + story
09-05-2014, 04:06 PM
Which is the best way to game girls in those countries?
In my country and in lots of other places in the West asshole game is the way to go if you wanna be successful with girls.
I didn't have much of success before I discovered the pick up community because I was a bit of a chode and too much beta.
Now I'm way more assertive and "asshole" and girls, here in Italy, respond way better to me! I'm not a playboy, but I have an adequate sexual life.
The question arises because I have the feeling that east european girls respond to another kind of behaviour.
My first insight of that go back to when I was 18yo.
I was in New York City attending an english course and in my class there was a stunning 18yo russian girl originally from Kaluga (then moved to Moscow).
Back then I didn't know how to pick up chicks and I was beta as fuck with crippling approach anxiety.
I wasn't a virgin because luckily I'm kind of a good looking guy so I managed to be engulfed in a relationship but I didn't have any experience regarding how to deal with girls.
The teacher of that school was a dork.
He made us doing really awkward things such as acting in front of the entire class, go outside and asking people for money to donate to a charity, ask random people to have a picture with us and shit like that because he thought that the best way to learn english was to speak it.
So far so good.
One day, though, he made me perform a really weird shit in front of the entire class.
He picked me and that russian girl and he told me to approach her, he said: "how would you approach a girl? Let's say you two are in a club..."
I was shocked. I didn't know what to say.
I tried to babble something like: "I would ask her to dance, buy her a drink and invite her at my table" (looooool) but he was a real jerk because he wanted more and more.
The girl didn't look shocked though, she just smiled. Probably in Russia they are accustomed to shitty approach.
Anyway, with time we connected more.
On one of my last days in the school while I was checking my facebook during a break she asked for my facebook. I gave it to her.
On the last day we greeted each other warmly but nothing happened.
Then I went back in Italy (it was mid September).
I thought all was finished with this girl but it turned out that I was wrong.
In November, without saying nothing to me, she came in Italy. Not a tour of all Italy, just one city: Milan which is the city where I live and since there isn't much to see in this city compared to others I interpreted that as a proof that she wanted to meet me.
There were two problem though:
1) I wasn't in Milan in the week she came (it was holiday in Italy)
2) I was still a complete beta who was afraid to even ask her something on facebook about her travel (I knew she was in my city because she posted lots of pictures on her facebook and instagram)
That's pretty much all for now. There wasn't an happy ending with this girl because I never had the guts to contact her (more of my feelings for her a bit later on in this topic)
I had other experiences with FSU girls back then (before I discovered the pick community and when I was still a chode). I met them in London, in Amsterdam and even here in Italy.
I'm not going to tell these stories here because otherwise the topic would be too long but, even though nothing happened I connected very well with those girls.
Flashforward to mid 2012: one friend on mine introduced me to the pick up community! As basically everybody did I picked up the book "The Game" and I was left astounded! From there my life changed. I read and watched basically everything on the market related to pick up girls.
I also started going out to pick up chicks with some guys of the italian community and with time I improved a lot.
Then it dawned on me.
If I was getting girls in Italy, who know what I could get in Russia where girls were after me even when I was a total chode!
So, some weeks later, there I was. On a plane headed to Moscow.
I pictured in my mind myself getting threesome and banging girls left and right but that couldn't be more far from the truth.
I didn't have any success. I had some k-close of course but nothing further happened.
The majority of girls were turned off by my attitude and they didn't like when I touched them right off the bat. They yanked my hand away and said: "what are you doing?" giving me the classic look....
I was acting like I did in Italy. I was cocky, a jerk and an asshole. That worked fantastically in Italy and in the West but not so much in Russia.
Months later when I tried the same kind of game in the Baltic countries and other east europen countries I witnessed the same shit.
Girls didn't like that, it looked like I was too aggressive. Maybe they weren't accustomed to that kind of approach. I don't know.
Guys who were way uglier than me, with creepy body language and that were offering drinks left and right had more success than me and my friends!
So, I started to wonder: do eastern european girls respond to another type of game than western girls?
I would like to hear your opinions on that
It appears to me that the best way to game FSU girls is to run nice guy game but with assertiveness in the interaction.
Sorry if I digressed a little, but I wanted to make clear what my background was and how I ended up asking myself that question.
In my country and in lots of other places in the West asshole game is the way to go if you wanna be successful with girls.
I didn't have much of success before I discovered the pick up community because I was a bit of a chode and too much beta.
Now I'm way more assertive and "asshole" and girls, here in Italy, respond way better to me! I'm not a playboy, but I have an adequate sexual life.
The question arises because I have the feeling that east european girls respond to another kind of behaviour.
My first insight of that go back to when I was 18yo.
I was in New York City attending an english course and in my class there was a stunning 18yo russian girl originally from Kaluga (then moved to Moscow).
Back then I didn't know how to pick up chicks and I was beta as fuck with crippling approach anxiety.
I wasn't a virgin because luckily I'm kind of a good looking guy so I managed to be engulfed in a relationship but I didn't have any experience regarding how to deal with girls.
The teacher of that school was a dork.
He made us doing really awkward things such as acting in front of the entire class, go outside and asking people for money to donate to a charity, ask random people to have a picture with us and shit like that because he thought that the best way to learn english was to speak it.
So far so good.
One day, though, he made me perform a really weird shit in front of the entire class.
He picked me and that russian girl and he told me to approach her, he said: "how would you approach a girl? Let's say you two are in a club..."
I was shocked. I didn't know what to say.
I tried to babble something like: "I would ask her to dance, buy her a drink and invite her at my table" (looooool) but he was a real jerk because he wanted more and more.
The girl didn't look shocked though, she just smiled. Probably in Russia they are accustomed to shitty approach.
Anyway, with time we connected more.
On one of my last days in the school while I was checking my facebook during a break she asked for my facebook. I gave it to her.
On the last day we greeted each other warmly but nothing happened.
Then I went back in Italy (it was mid September).
I thought all was finished with this girl but it turned out that I was wrong.
In November, without saying nothing to me, she came in Italy. Not a tour of all Italy, just one city: Milan which is the city where I live and since there isn't much to see in this city compared to others I interpreted that as a proof that she wanted to meet me.
There were two problem though:
1) I wasn't in Milan in the week she came (it was holiday in Italy)
2) I was still a complete beta who was afraid to even ask her something on facebook about her travel (I knew she was in my city because she posted lots of pictures on her facebook and instagram)
That's pretty much all for now. There wasn't an happy ending with this girl because I never had the guts to contact her (more of my feelings for her a bit later on in this topic)
I had other experiences with FSU girls back then (before I discovered the pick community and when I was still a chode). I met them in London, in Amsterdam and even here in Italy.
I'm not going to tell these stories here because otherwise the topic would be too long but, even though nothing happened I connected very well with those girls.
Flashforward to mid 2012: one friend on mine introduced me to the pick up community! As basically everybody did I picked up the book "The Game" and I was left astounded! From there my life changed. I read and watched basically everything on the market related to pick up girls.
I also started going out to pick up chicks with some guys of the italian community and with time I improved a lot.
Then it dawned on me.
If I was getting girls in Italy, who know what I could get in Russia where girls were after me even when I was a total chode!
So, some weeks later, there I was. On a plane headed to Moscow.
I pictured in my mind myself getting threesome and banging girls left and right but that couldn't be more far from the truth.
I didn't have any success. I had some k-close of course but nothing further happened.
The majority of girls were turned off by my attitude and they didn't like when I touched them right off the bat. They yanked my hand away and said: "what are you doing?" giving me the classic look....
I was acting like I did in Italy. I was cocky, a jerk and an asshole. That worked fantastically in Italy and in the West but not so much in Russia.
Months later when I tried the same kind of game in the Baltic countries and other east europen countries I witnessed the same shit.
Girls didn't like that, it looked like I was too aggressive. Maybe they weren't accustomed to that kind of approach. I don't know.
Guys who were way uglier than me, with creepy body language and that were offering drinks left and right had more success than me and my friends!
So, I started to wonder: do eastern european girls respond to another type of game than western girls?
I would like to hear your opinions on that
It appears to me that the best way to game FSU girls is to run nice guy game but with assertiveness in the interaction.
Sorry if I digressed a little, but I wanted to make clear what my background was and how I ended up asking myself that question.