[Greek kamaki]

Imagine if Turkey enters the EU and dozens of millions of thirsty Turkish guys overflow the western and EE cities.It will be the end of any game as we know it.
Actually the Germans are aware of that and always press our Greek politicians to declare veto to Turkey accession.

[speakeasy]

(08-30-2014 04:52 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Imagine if Turkey enters the EU and dozens of millions of thirsty Turkish guys overflow the western and EE cities.It will be the end of any game as we know it.
Actually the Germans are aware of that and always press our Greek politicians to declare veto to Turkey accession.

Only thing is, first and foremost, men tend to go where they can find employment. Are the economies of the EE countries going to draw lots of men? From what I understand, you've got all these Polish people trying to go to the UK for opportunity. Unless these Turkish guys are all freelancers or planning on opening profitable businesses, what will they do to support themselves in these countries? Pussy can't pay the rent.


@ JJ Roberts, you misquoted me above. Fix your tags.

[turuk]

(08-30-2014 04:52 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Imagine if Turkey enters the EU and dozens of millions of thirsty Turkish guys overflow the western and EE cities.It will be the end of any game as we know it.
Actually the Germans are aware of that and always press our Greek politicians to declare veto to Turkey accession.

But you say Turks have no game. So why would they be a threat to Greek ladies?

Also they don't have to come to Europe. Europe comes to them. In the summer Eastern-European girls are flooding the west and east coast of Turkey.

Roosh discovered Ukraine couple of years ago. Turks know Ukraine for centuries. I have been to east coast when I was a teenager (7 years ago) and the quality of girls was great there.

[turuk]

(08-29-2014 09:24 AM)rishboy77 Wrote:  

Roosh - consider going to Istanbul.
I was in Istanbul in July and stayed near the trendy suburb of Bebek. This place had the hottest Turkish girls I saw with out door cafes wearing their tight skinny jeans and heels compared to the rest the city. The main down side is the area is not cheap. They even have a Starbucks there.

I have also been to Istanbul. Not to the place you mentioned but to Taksim. One thing to note, most clubs won't let you inside unless you have a female counterpart. It is a good "excuse" to approach girls so you can enter the club.

[rishboy77]

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But you say Turks have no game. So why would they be a threat to Greek ladies?
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100% true. I never saw a Turk with hot chick in London, Paris, etc
What GK fails to mention when it comes to Slavic women is that maybe 10%-15% are into Turks despite the lack of game and aggressive behavior . Didn't Jimukr104 quote nearly 2 million Russians married in Turkey.

In the big picture Turkey is a role model for the Muslim world.

[turuk]

(08-30-2014 05:43 PM)rishboy77 Wrote:  

100% true. I never saw a Turk with hot chick in London, Paris, etc
What GK fails to mention when it comes to Slavic women is that maybe 10%-15% are into Turks despite the lack of game and aggressive behavior . Didn't Jimukr104 quote nearly 2 million Russians married in Turkey.

In the big picture Turkey is a role model for the Muslim world.

I think his concern is different. Greece is doing economically very bad and he is afraid that if Turkey's economy reaches European standards, a lot of Greek girls will go to Turkey to find a guy with a job who is not a looser. But that is just Greece and some East European countries. I think western girls won't be affected if Turkish guys get more wealthy.

[el mechanico]

^ Haha I don't think so.

[turkishcandy]

It is true we are horny. But I insist that many holiday resorts in Turkey during summer have much much higher quality and easier-to-bang girls (non-Turkish) than any other EE country at any time of the year. You just have to know which place to hit and I think Roosh made a poor poor choice here. You can't possibly regret going to a place like Kemer/Antalya in summer, the quality will mesmerize you (mostly Russians). All you need to know about Turkey is how to pick a good hotel (5-stars) at the good time and then go there and run game on Slavic women without even having to go out of the hotel.

Also, I highly recommend against bothering with Turkish girls. It is the poorest choice, you will get much lower quality by putting 10 times more effort and time. When you see a Turkish girl, no matter how hot she is, just eject. Because even if you bang her, you will still lose, considering what you could have done with the time and money you spent on her.

[aphelion]

I spent a few weeks in Izmir. It seemed to be very much a place where you needed to be part of a social group and circle with friends. The bar scene is nearly dead, alcohol is heavily taxed and most people go out with their friends and play dominos or backgammon and have a good time among themselves. A single, roving player will find it an absolute wasteland.

That being said, Turkish girls can be very sweet and friendly in social circumstances. My belief is that you need to make friends and be part of their lives.

[Sailor]

(08-29-2014 08:58 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

(08-29-2014 08:37 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Are the Turkish dudes really that thirsty?

There are different kinds of thirst. There is the "I'll let a woman walk all over me, abuse me, hurt me, but I will still be devoted to her." And then there is the "I will fuck anything that moves, no matter the price." Turkish men are the latter. It's not that they are beta---it's just that they really want sex.

HAHAHA! Now i understand why i know one Argie married to a Turk,and some 4 Brazilian girls too.Well,3 girls and one old hag

[Greek kamaki]

(08-30-2014 06:01 PM)turuk Wrote:  

(08-30-2014 05:43 PM)rishboy77 Wrote:  

100% true. I never saw a Turk with hot chick in London, Paris, etc
What GK fails to mention when it comes to Slavic women is that maybe 10%-15% are into Turks despite the lack of game and aggressive behavior . Didn't Jimukr104 quote nearly 2 million Russians married in Turkey.

In the big picture Turkey is a role model for the Muslim world.

I think his concern is different. Greece is doing economically very bad and he is afraid that if Turkey's economy reaches European standards, a lot of Greek girls will go to Turkey to find a guy with a job who is not a looser. But that is just Greece and some East European countries. I think western girls won't be affected if Turkish guys get more wealthy.

There is a rumour that 5 Greek girls from Alexandroupoli visited Istanbul to celebrate their graduation and after two days they returned to the hospital with their asses destroyed.A huge scandal rose up,2 of their fiancees divorced them and so visiting Turkey has gained a bad reputation among the female population so to say.

[turuk]

(09-06-2014 05:04 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

(08-30-2014 06:01 PM)turuk Wrote:  

(08-30-2014 05:43 PM)rishboy77 Wrote:  

100% true. I never saw a Turk with hot chick in London, Paris, etc
What GK fails to mention when it comes to Slavic women is that maybe 10%-15% are into Turks despite the lack of game and aggressive behavior . Didn't Jimukr104 quote nearly 2 million Russians married in Turkey.

In the big picture Turkey is a role model for the Muslim world.

I think his concern is different. Greece is doing economically very bad and he is afraid that if Turkey's economy reaches European standards, a lot of Greek girls will go to Turkey to find a guy with a job who is not a looser. But that is just Greece and some East European countries. I think western girls won't be affected if Turkish guys get more wealthy.

There is a rumour that 5 Greek girls from Alexandroupoli visited Istanbul to celebrate their graduation and after two days they returned to the hospital with their asses destroyed.A huge scandal rose up,2 of their fiancees divorced them and so visiting Turkey has gained a bad reputation among the female population so to say.

LMAO, you mean with "their asses destroyed" their anus?

Makes sense though, they don't call it Greek style for nothing

If those kind of rumors are spreading it is not good news for Greece.

[Brodiaga]

Many Russians who went to Turkey advised me against going there to game girls. I went there for other reasons and enjoyed my trip. The only way I would go there for girls would be going to a big, remote all inclusive resort known for party atmosphere and lots of hot Russian chicks. Also, this resort should not let any locals in other than the service staff. I don't know any resorts like that.

[Lika]

(09-06-2014 06:25 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

Many Russians who went to Turkey advised me against going there to game girls. I went there for other reasons and enjoyed my trip. The only way I would go there for girls would be going to a big, remote all inclusive resort known for party atmosphere and lots of hot Russian chicks. Also, this resort should not let any locals in other than the service staff. I don't know any resorts like that.

Kemer 5 stars hotels? Guests are not allowed in I guess...

[Wayout]

I was just there in the area with my Russian girlfriend. I've heard a lot about Turkey and how desperate and awkward Turkish guys are - so I was prepared.
My observations are the following:
1. Most of the staff in the resorts and other unskilled workers are not even Turks - they are Kurds! Turks don't like Kurds and think they are lower class people like gypsies.
2. I think I saw only 10-12 Turkish women on the street the whole time I was there. Maybe 1-2 attractive.
3. Too many immigrants from Iran and 'stans (FSU)...and I think most people don't even realize there are not Turkish.
4. I was surprised that Turks can't travel to any Western European countries and Turkish passport is even worse than Russian!

We stayed in a 5star resort between Antalya and Kemer and visited both cities,historic sites,museums and the beaches. Overall this trip was fun. The infrastructure is good for tourism,the country was safe,it was an upgrade after Russia.
Most people in those resorts are couples and families. There were girls vacationing together as well as some guys ( much less though).
Saw several Mother- daughter sets as well
Turkish( or Kurdish) guys were approaching and playing overall weak game. I didn't see one successful approach to be honest. Mostly on the beach i saw Russian guys hitting up girls,Turks were just glaring at them and winking ( WTF?) It was so ridiculous I felt uncomfortable quite often. Especially when there is only one good looking girl and the Turks start positioning themselves near her or towards her. I felt like I was in a zoo observing wild animals!
I told about this to my gf and she didn't even notice anything. Then we did a little experiment - she went to the water line and about 6-7 Turks flipped to face the water...then she went back and they all turned back facing away and looking at her! It was so creepy ( sorry to use this word but it's the only word I can think of to describe what was going on)!
The other girls were also pretty much harassed at the beach - when they were without a male.
The bottom line is - Turkey is not worth your time or effort- super hard country to get laid! You can try if you are blond/blue eyed and good looking but why? The cost of staying in a 5 star all incl. resort was about 50 usd..plus throw in free flight and it made it worth for me and my girl to go there and just ignore the Turks!

[Beirut]

When i was in marmaris there werent any turk guys aside from the staff. Except in arena night club which seems to be a favourite. But outside of the bars staff and tour guides didnt run into any turkish guys. Fair amount of girls though. The staff cockblocked when its a girl they knew.

Icmeler beach 5 minutes away was a gold mine for meeting turkish girls. Met three there. All had the same attitude/profile. Sweet, submissive, give a lot of eye contact.

Some did say they assumed i was turkish from distance though. My experience led me to assume turkish girls would make great gfs.

Perhaps its because marmaris has a very low all year population, maybe that explains lack of turkish guys

[Greek kamaki]

(09-06-2014 06:02 PM)turuk Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 05:04 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

(08-30-2014 06:01 PM)turuk Wrote:  

(08-30-2014 05:43 PM)rishboy77 Wrote:  

100% true. I never saw a Turk with hot chick in London, Paris, etc
What GK fails to mention when it comes to Slavic women is that maybe 10%-15% are into Turks despite the lack of game and aggressive behavior . Didn't Jimukr104 quote nearly 2 million Russians married in Turkey.

In the big picture Turkey is a role model for the Muslim world.

I think his concern is different. Greece is doing economically very bad and he is afraid that if Turkey's economy reaches European standards, a lot of Greek girls will go to Turkey to find a guy with a job who is not a looser. But that is just Greece and some East European countries. I think western girls won't be affected if Turkish guys get more wealthy.

There is a rumour that 5 Greek girls from Alexandroupoli visited Istanbul to celebrate their graduation and after two days they returned to the hospital with their asses destroyed.A huge scandal rose up,2 of their fiancees divorced them and so visiting Turkey has gained a bad reputation among the female population so to say.

LMAO, you mean with "their asses destroyed" their anus?

Makes sense though, they don't call it Greek style for nothing

If those kind of rumors are spreading it is not good news for Greece.

Here is the article in Greek.The girls said they waited for 5 turkish masseurs and instead of them came 12 guys.It was not their fault.

http://filoksenos.blogspot.de/2013/05/5-...or-12.html

[turkishcandy]

Turkish guys are as desperate, aggressive and thirsty as you say, if not more. I'm Turkish and even I hate my countrymen since this behavior causes every female in Turkey, both Turkish and foreigner, to put up unbelieavable bitch shields. If you are Turkish no guy is going to bother your gf next to you in Turkey, beause they know no Turkish guy is gonna let them get away with that without a serious fight, but if you are a foreigner they will hit on your gf and the only reason for that is because it works sometimes. The example is in Greek Kamaki's article. Such desperate game does get tham laid and game is a numbers game.

[Greek kamaki]

If they see a foreigner couple the first question turkish guys ask is is he your boyfriend? and the second how long you know him?.It is always very predictable I have analyzed it in previous threads.

(02-26-2012 12:12 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Example of dialogue between turkish guy me and Russian girl.

Turkish guy approaches like he is interested to sell Stu.Then he asks the girl:
Where are you from?

The girl turns to me and asks:What did he ask?I translate in Russian:Otkuda ty?

-Russia.

Turk(slowly closing his eyes like dreaming and putting his hand over chest):Oh,I love Russia.Lubliu Russia.

Girl(with delight):Ohh!

Turk:Is he your boyfriend?(trying to pick out our relation).

Russian girl to me:What did he ask?(she speaks no english).Me:He asks if you are from St. Peterburg.

Russian girl(with big smile).Da(yes).

Turk asking me:Is she your fiancee?Will you marry her?(to find out how serious our relationship is)

Me:We are visiting Istanbul.

Turk to me:Are you Russian?

Me:No.

Turk to me:Where are you from?

Me:Greece.

Turk to me:Greece.And you are living in Russia(again to find out if I stay with the girl)

Me:I travel to Russia often.

Turk to meo you know her for long time?

Me:We just came to Istanbul.

Turk:I do not understand.Where did you meet her?

Me:I met her on mamba.

Turk:I do not understand.

Turk to her:Are you married with him?

She asking me:what did he say?(to translate in Russian).Me:He asked if you like Istanbul.

She:Yes.(with big smile)

Turkcompletely confused):I do not understand.

Turk to me:In Greece now crisis?(to lower my value).Then he looks to the girl.

Me to him:Yes,Athens is burning right now.Girl interrupting and asking me:What did he say?Me:He asked me about Athens.I told him it is hot.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(09-07-2014 05:01 AM)Wayout Wrote:  

..
Most people in those resorts are couples and families. There were girls vacationing together as well as some guys ( much less though).
Saw several Mother- daughter sets as well
Turkish( or Kurdish) guys were approaching and playing overall weak game. ...

There are certainly guys with Game there in the sea of thirsty men with zero Game, but why bother when you have to stand in line to get your opener in?

Whenever I hear of mother-daughter vacationers this little documentary comes to mind:

Also I have met a few fat women in their end 30s and 40s, who even entertained moving to countries like Turkey, Egypt (before the "revolutions") or Morocco. Their SMV in those countries was sky-high especially since their income was location independent. It is truly funny how women really believe that those guys are after their fat aging asses - "Those men are not afraid of proud, independent and a little more overweight women!" Ha - many of them just fuck you for your potential money-earning power or because it beats fapping. They would drop your sorry ass if they had a younger tighter girl as an option, as was clearly seen in the documentary, where only the young daughter left the country satisfied after the sex-vacation.

[diego69]

I have written this before, don't go to any European holiday resorts towns if you are looking for bangs, in all of those either in Turkey, Greece, Cyprus and even Bulgaria black sea there will be high competition. Some hotels/ areas might be better as some suggested here but still it is high effort/cost per bang (if you managed)
Like EE women? Want to bang them? Then go to their cities, check when its a good time per city, verify if 2nd tier student city is better (Czech, Poland) or the 1st tier (Romania, Ukraine) and invest some time there.

[TripleG]

(09-08-2014 01:20 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 05:01 AM)Wayout Wrote:  

..
Most people in those resorts are couples and families. There were girls vacationing together as well as some guys ( much less though).
Saw several Mother- daughter sets as well
Turkish( or Kurdish) guys were approaching and playing overall weak game. ...

There are certainly guys with Game there in the sea of thirsty men with zero Game, but why bother when you have to stand in line to get your opener in?

Whenever I hear of mother-daughter vacationers this little documentary comes to mind:

Also I have met a few fat women in their end 30s and 40s, who even entertained moving to countries like Turkey, Egypt (before the "revolutions") or Morocco. Their SMV in those countries was sky-high especially since their income was location independent. It is truly funny how women really believe that those guys are after their fat aging asses - "Those men are not afraid of proud, independent and a little more overweight women!" Ha - many of them just fuck you for your potential money-earning power or because it beats fapping. They would drop your sorry ass if they had a younger tighter girl as an option, as was clearly seen in the documentary, where only the young daughter left the country satisfied after the sex-vacation.

Damn, I wouldn't touch those women with a 10 foot pole. The blonde daughter was the "hottest" and even her i'd give a drunk 5.5.

[K-man]

(09-01-2014 03:41 PM)turkishcandy Wrote:  

You can't possibly regret going to a place like Kemer/Antalya in summer, the quality will mesmerize you (mostly Russians). All you need to know about Turkey is how to pick a good hotel (5-stars) at the good time and then go there and run game on Slavic women without even having to go out of the hotel.

True that. I was in Turkey a couple of times, all bangs were from the hotel. Very important to pick a hotel with 500+ rooms, there are quite a few all-inclusive resorts like that.
Only went clubbing 1-2 times in the city and found it a waste of time and money.

Roosh, try Bulgaria next summer. Sunny Beach was not bad this year, perhaps not more than 1.5 guys for every girl. Most of them try to open a few girls, get shot down quickly, and go back to their drink, so everyone gets an open window to squeeze in and try their luck with the ladies. I had modest success, 2 bangs from 5-6 nights out total in the summer. If you put your energy into it you'd do well. There is an area of bars where all the action is centered, hotels are nearby, it's walkable and logistics-friendly. Quite affordable, too.
The downside is it can be corny, tacky, trashy like Ocean City, MD and that it takes a lot of Red Bulls or other stimulants to game there as the action and noise is non-stop.

[Going strong]

JCVD doesn't like Turkey that much, either, it seems :

http://national.bgnnews.com/drunken-van-...haberi/980

Drunken Van Damme wreaks havoc in Istanbul club

Martial artist, actor and director Jean Claude Van Damme wreaked havoc in the famous Reina Night Club on Tuesday night , located in istanbul’s Besiktas.

Van Damme, under the heavy influence of alcohol, lost control of himself, threw a glass on the middle of the ground, and then knelt and started screaming and shouting meaninglessly.

One of Van Damme’s assistants gave him massage for 10 minutes to make him calm down.

Those who were present in the club at the same time thought he was shooting a new movie.

Van Damme did not calm down despite the efforts of his kind assistants. Van Damme got upset at the paparazzi waiting outside of the club to take a picture of him. He walked up to one of journalists and attempted to beat him in the face, and then punched a car window and cracked it.

Luckily, Roosh kept his cool in Turkey and did not react as strongly!