[Barron]

(01-08-2019 06:38 PM)Bikal Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 08:40 AM)HD668B Wrote:  

But nope, we learn spanish for SA latinas and russian for slavic EE girls.

Maybe you do but I learned Russian as I want to be able to read the various works of Chekov, Tolstoy and others in Russian, add to it that I have many friends in the UK from Russia, it made sense to learn the language.

You can fuck Russian girls with English or French, Russian isn't a requirement, all it does is unlock a larger pool.

You came to the wrong forum to discuss Russian Literature

[TravelingBodybuilder]

What is everyones favorite Ukraine country for fucking beautiful woman? in a 3-6 month period.

Trying to decide between Kyiv and kharkov.


I speak zero russian or ukraine...

my game is baller game. dont care about gold diggers as long as they sucking my dick... and are hot.

i hear kyiv is overrated with a lot of sex expats.. so thats my reason of thinking about kharkov. but i also only speak english..

[BaatumMania]

Kyiv was so messed up that I couldn't recommend it to anyone in good conscience. It's just too overran by foreign guys and escorts spamming in Tinder / hanging out in nightclubs. Kyiv just happens to be convenient due to the airport and easy AirBnBs.

No idea on the situation in Kharkiv but I know it's on Uber so that would be good enough for me.

Unless someone has field experience: you should decide whether it's better to be closer to an university area (access to babes) or closer to Puzata Hata (convenient eating) / Nightlife (although if Kharkiv ends up being a mini-Kyiv the ratios of non-pros might not be good).

[Hydrae Cube]

I don't recall meeting a Westerner in Ukraine that was getting increased results with Ukrainian women due to language knowledge. I think for it to be valuable you need to speak it at a meaningful level, many girls have expressed their frustration to me that they cannot say what they want to say in English, even the ones that speak English well.

Day to day though it's useful to hear what's going on around you, pick up a conversation in the coffee shop and have a laugh etc. Otherwise you are walking around in a bubble.

You will always be considered a foreigner in Ukraine, Russian or no Russian

[Hydrae Cube]

(01-09-2019 08:33 AM)BaatumMania Wrote:  

Kyiv was so messed up that I couldn't recommend it to anyone in good conscience. It's just too overran by foreign guys and escorts spamming in Tinder / hanging out in nightclubs. Kyiv just happens to be convenient due to the airport and easy AirBnBs.

No idea on the situation in Kharkiv but I know it's on Uber so that would be good enough for me.

Unless someone has field experience: you should decide whether it's better to be closer to an university area (access to babes) or closer to Puzata Hata (convenient eating) / Nightlife (although if Kharkiv ends up being a mini-Kyiv the ratios of non-pros might not be good).

Is Uber all that you need in life?

Kharkiv is ok, but quite oppressive city. The central part of the city is pleasant, but spread out so takes time to get to your favourite places.

The only thing Puzhata is good for is as a laxative.

If you think that you're going to escape foreign guys and escorts by going to Kharkiv you have another thing coming, it's full of Islamic students and the clubs have many whore (especially Bolero)

Russian levels are low there, and they are not as interested in foreigners as you might imagine.

As with any city in Ukraine, DG is King.

Kharkiv offers nothing over Kiev apart from lower prices

[solid]

(01-09-2019 02:05 PM)Hydrae Cube Wrote:  

Is Uber all that you need in life?

Kharkiv is ok, but quite oppressive city. The central part of the city is pleasant, but spread out so takes time to get to your favourite places.

The only thing Puzhata is good for is as a laxative.

If you think that you're going to escape foreign guys and escorts by going to Kharkiv you have another thing coming, it's full of Islamic students and the clubs have many whore (especially Bolero)

Russian levels are low there, and they are not as interested in foreigners as you might imagine.

As with any city in Ukraine, DG is King.

Kharkiv offers nothing over Kiev apart from lower prices

What is "DG"?

[BaatumMania]

(01-09-2019 02:05 PM)Hydrae Cube Wrote:  

Is Uber all that you need in life?

You think you don't need it until you end up in a city that banned Uber / Grab or doesn't have an Uber / Grab office.. In such a place I already got scammed by a taxi driver and snowflake me is still upset about it..

Kind of like being reliant on Google Map and then being forced to go back to paper maps. Used to be a pro at that back in the day but seriously don't want to do it again.

[Rocha]

(01-09-2019 02:34 PM)BaatumMania Wrote:  

(01-09-2019 02:05 PM)Hydrae Cube Wrote:  

Is Uber all that you need in life?

You think you don't need it until you end up in a city that banned Uber / Grab or doesn't have an Uber / Grab office.. In such a place I already got scammed by a taxi driver and snowflake me is still upset about it..

Kind of like being reliant on Google Map and then being forced to go back to paper maps. Used to be a pro at that back in the day but seriously don't want to do it again.

Uklon works perfectly and is cheaper than Uber.

As to the former poster, DG should be Day Game.

[Hydrae Cube]

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As with any city in Ukraine, DG is King.

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What is "DG"?

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As to the former poster, DG should be Day Game.

Sorry i'm typing on my phone, should be D&G, Dolce and Gabbana

[petburi]

in Ukraine D&G also sarcastically means Dorogo&Glupo (expensive and dumb)

[Hydrae Cube]

(01-09-2019 10:44 PM)petburi Wrote:  

in Ukraine D&G also sarcastically means Dorogo&Glupo (expensive and dumb)

Until you buy D&G for a girl then she instantaneously squirts

[BaatumMania]

Load up on fake D&G from Instanbul market vendors in the biggest suit case and thank me later.

Funny thing is I used to handout flashlights (as in normal flashlights) with the Spanish Gaudi pattern from Barcelona to Asian girls. Bought over a dozen cause they were just $3 each. Even made a fake backstory saying how it was a good memory of my special time there. Et cetera et cetera. Each one was a super easy bang (but fair enough conquering Asian women isn't exactly a big achievement when they've been caught banging 80 year old obese white men). Sometimes I thought about buying more of the flashlights and just continuing that game.

[Hydrae Cube]

(01-10-2019 04:20 AM)BaatumMania Wrote:  

Load up on fake D&G from Instanbul market vendors in the biggest suit case and thank me later.

Funny thing is I used to handout flashlights (as in normal flashlights) with the Spanish Gaudi pattern from Barcelona to Asian girls. Bought over a dozen cause they were just $3 each. Even made a fake backstory saying how it was a good memory of my special time there. Et cetera et cetera. Each one was a super easy bang (but fair enough conquering Asian women isn't exactly a big achievement when they've been caught banging 80 year old obese white men). Sometimes I thought about buying more of the flashlights and just continuing that game.

Dude it's not 1980's Communist China anymore, even the shittiest of phones often have a torch on them these days. If they fuck you for a torch, then they will probably fuck you for a bag of haribo too

[Polero]

Lol at the previous comment.

Bringing back souvenirs for chicks is something that I have been doing for years now. It's not going to get you laid but it definitely helps. In their mind they think that the guys thinks of her and cares, even if it's a little thing. The souvenir/little present needs to go along with texting and show care, though. EE gold diggers or gold diggers in general will not be happy with something small and inexpensive and will not put out.
I recently gave a box of chocolates to a chick and she wasn't impressed, after banging she left without the chocolates and that's fine, I gave them to another chick LOL.

[Beirut]

(01-09-2019 08:33 AM)BaatumMania Wrote:  

Kyiv was so messed up that I couldn't recommend it to anyone in good conscience. It's just too overran by foreign guys and escorts spamming in Tinder / hanging out in nightclubs. Kyiv just happens to be convenient due to the airport and easy AirBnBs.

No idea on the situation in Kharkiv but I know it's on Uber so that would be good enough for me.

Unless someone has field experience: you should decide whether it's better to be closer to an university area (access to babes) or closer to Puzata Hata (convenient eating) / Nightlife (although if Kharkiv ends up being a mini-Kyiv the ratios of non-pros might not be good).

how much time have you actually spent in Ukraine Baatum?

[Hydrae Cube]

(01-10-2019 06:11 PM)Beirut Wrote:  

(01-09-2019 08:33 AM)BaatumMania Wrote:  

Kyiv was so messed up that I couldn't recommend it to anyone in good conscience. It's just too overran by foreign guys and escorts spamming in Tinder / hanging out in nightclubs. Kyiv just happens to be convenient due to the airport and easy AirBnBs.

No idea on the situation in Kharkiv but I know it's on Uber so that would be good enough for me.

Unless someone has field experience: you should decide whether it's better to be closer to an university area (access to babes) or closer to Puzata Hata (convenient eating) / Nightlife (although if Kharkiv ends up being a mini-Kyiv the ratios of non-pros might not be good).

how much time have you actually spent in Ukraine Baatum?

I was wondering the same

I think he spent a couple of days in Zaporozye, got a few tinder matches, then disappeared

A lot of speculation, and little first hand experience it seems

[solid]

(01-07-2019 08:40 AM)HD668B Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 08:27 PM)Bikal Wrote:  

(01-05-2019 05:46 AM)HD668B Wrote:  

Why would you learn Russian anyway unless to bang Ukr/Rus girls?

I don't know, it's certainly not for the countless works to be read nor is it for the ability to understand the tremendous history of the beautiful country that is Mother Russia.

Fucking Russian girls is just a nice bonus, you can fuck them with English and French anyway, you don't need to learn Russian if all you're after is a fuck.

Ah give me a break, if your logic was right we would all be learning Indian and Chinese for the thousand of years heritage of both dynasties.

But nope, we learn spanish for SA latinas and russian for slavic EE girls.

No, I disagree. Learning Chinese or Indian enables you to speak them in two or three countries max while learning Spanish or Russian lets you speak the language of 20 and 10+ countries respectively. So even from a pure travelling standpoint (and not banging chicks) learning Spanish and Russian is much more beneficial then all other languages including Chinese and Indian.

I always tell this to the Rus/Ukr chicks when they ask me "But why Russian?!"

[BaatumMania]

(01-11-2019 04:46 AM)Hydrae Cube Wrote:  

(01-10-2019 06:11 PM)Beirut Wrote:  

(01-09-2019 08:33 AM)BaatumMania Wrote:  

Kyiv was so messed up that I couldn't recommend it to anyone in good conscience. It's just too overran by foreign guys and escorts spamming in Tinder / hanging out in nightclubs. Kyiv just happens to be convenient due to the airport and easy AirBnBs.

No idea on the situation in Kharkiv but I know it's on Uber so that would be good enough for me.

Unless someone has field experience: you should decide whether it's better to be closer to an university area (access to babes) or closer to Puzata Hata (convenient eating) / Nightlife (although if Kharkiv ends up being a mini-Kyiv the ratios of non-pros might not be good).

how much time have you actually spent in Ukraine Baatum?

I was wondering the same

I think he spent a couple of days in Zaporozye, got a few tinder matches, then disappeared

A lot of speculation, and little first hand experience it seems

First trip to Ukraine was in 2010 which was around the same time when Roosh was doing his trips in the region and made his first big publication. But I'm sure anonymous internet warriors such as yourselves are going to claim you've been going to Ukraine since 1992 and know more than Roosh or myself.

Anyway tonight, when I am actually abroad in a foreign country (where are you?) I will be toasting some premium beer to your names.

[Beirut]

relax dude it was only a question.

So could you give me examples of places where your impossibly difficult choice of accomodation was between being close to a university OR a puzata hata?

[Ouroboros]

(01-09-2019 02:05 PM)Hydrae Cube Wrote:  

Kharkiv is ok, but quite oppressive city. The central part of the city is pleasant, but spread out so takes time to get to your favourite places.

The only thing Puzhata is good for is as a laxative.

If you think that you're going to escape foreign guys and escorts by going to Kharkiv you have another thing coming, it's full of Islamic students and the clubs have many whore (especially Bolero)

Russian levels are low there, and they are not as interested in foreigners as you might imagine.

As with any city in Ukraine, DG is King.

Kharkiv offers nothing over Kiev apart from lower prices

I don't contest this as I haven't been to Ukraine, but why would an Orthodox city like Kharkiv be full of Islamic students?

[Beirut]

A lot of arabs and turks and africans study there.

[BaatumMania]

(01-11-2019 06:38 AM)Ouroboros Wrote:  

(01-09-2019 02:05 PM)Hydrae Cube Wrote:  

Kharkiv is ok, but quite oppressive city. The central part of the city is pleasant, but spread out so takes time to get to your favourite places.

The only thing Puzhata is good for is as a laxative.

If you think that you're going to escape foreign guys and escorts by going to Kharkiv you have another thing coming, it's full of Islamic students and the clubs have many whore (especially Bolero)

Russian levels are low there, and they are not as interested in foreigners as you might imagine.

As with any city in Ukraine, DG is King.

Kharkiv offers nothing over Kiev apart from lower prices

I don't contest this as I haven't been to Ukraine, but why would an Orthodox city like Kharkiv be full of Islamic students?

I saw them in Lviv, Kiev and Zaporozhye. I don't see why Kharkiv would be different.

In theory: Ukraine is considered semi-famous for medical education at cheap rates.

In practice: Does Ukraine really have better education than Morocco? Even though places like Morocco have a per capita GDP than Ukraine? It seems like they're using it as an excuse to go drink vodka and have sex with prostitutes to me. And I kind of see some evidence for this such as the Middle Eastern and African male seems to outnumber their female counterpart by 3:1 or more.

[diego69]

Kharkiv has 22,000 foreign students, most of them from middle east/Africa. center is quite big, their is English speaking community which you can connect with- lower quality of girls there obviously. I didn't connect well with this city, prefer Kiev. I got some activity there but in general less frequent and less quality. Not bad city though in overall perspective, might visit again.

[Ouroboros]

(01-11-2019 06:55 AM)Beirut Wrote:  

A lot of arabs and turks and africans study there.

(01-11-2019 06:55 AM)BaatumMania Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 06:38 AM)Ouroboros Wrote:  

(01-09-2019 02:05 PM)Hydrae Cube Wrote:  

Kharkiv is ok, but quite oppressive city. The central part of the city is pleasant, but spread out so takes time to get to your favourite places.

The only thing Puzhata is good for is as a laxative.

If you think that you're going to escape foreign guys and escorts by going to Kharkiv you have another thing coming, it's full of Islamic students and the clubs have many whore (especially Bolero)

Russian levels are low there, and they are not as interested in foreigners as you might imagine.

As with any city in Ukraine, DG is King.

Kharkiv offers nothing over Kiev apart from lower prices

I don't contest this as I haven't been to Ukraine, but why would an Orthodox city like Kharkiv be full of Islamic students?

I saw them in Lviv, Kiev and Zaporozhye. I don't see why Kharkiv would be different.

In theory: Ukraine is considered semi-famous for medical education at cheap rates.

In practice: Does Ukraine really have better education than Morocco? Even though places like Morocco have a per capita GDP than Ukraine? It seems like they're using it as an excuse to go drink vodka and have sex with prostitutes to me. And I kind of see some evidence for this such as the Middle Eastern and African male seems to outnumber their female counterpart by 3:1 or more.

I see. By 'Islamic students' I read 'students studying Islam' as opposed to 'Muslim students' generally. The latter makes more sense...though still a little strange since (I imagine) Middle Easterners and Africans would probably hate the climate in Ukraine, not speak the language that well, and be met with a frosty reception by the locals...The draw of free-flowing vodka and bountiful pussy must be real.

[Danishguy]

go to any with no planes to turkey. Sumy, poltova, kherson, nikolaev, krivoy rog... there are a lot of them, not just no turkish, but no foreigners in those cities.

(01-05-2019 05:17 AM)solid Wrote:  

(01-03-2019 05:04 PM)solid Wrote:  

Why would you expect a warm welcome from the locals when every year there's millions of Middle Eastern men acting in sleazy ways in Ukraine. The reputation is warranted and has been earned. You may be a Canadian citizen but your constitution is Middle Eastern. Why is this so difficult to comprehend.
If you're still perplexed I suggest reading through the hundreds of pages in this thread, you'll see the issue of the creepy tourists damaging the local's attitudes has been discussed ad infinitum.

I am not sure where I said it is difficult for me to comprehend or that I am "perplexed", because I am really not. All I was asking is that if you know of a city in Ukraine that the Turkish/Middle Eastern sex tourist stereotype is not as strong as it is in Kiev and Kharkiv (i.e. a city that receives less sex tourists from these countries every year).

If you have experience in Ukraine and can suggest such a city, please tell me.