[Sidney Crosby]

I know everyone has seen the girl that is a little overweight 15-20lbs (maybe more) but has a good face and body potential, nice tits, long legs and the foundation already poured for a nice ass.

My question is, any of you guys ever specifically looked for these work in progress girls? With a little exercise and diet they could be hot without all the attitude coming from most 7/7+ western women.

Should be able to whip them into shape and train them for a high return on investment.

Thoughts?

[Christian McQueen]

Option 1: Spend your valuable time on trying to fix a fattie that will decline once she
A. Has a kid.
B. Embraces that Big Is Beautiful and go back to eating Ben n Jerry's.
C. Decides she likes to eat more than please you.
All of these scenarios are very viable.

Option 2: Spend your time on yourself and go out into the world and pull another girl who takes pride in her looks, exercises and wants to be attractive to her mate.

The thing with chubsters is, it's not just that they cannot put the Cheetos down; it's that they have internal issues that you cannot fix.

A person's outward appearance is a direct reflection of their inner self.

Chubsters and fatties should never be an option, but then again: the choice is yours.

My article is relevant here: 5 Reasons Why Fat Girls Don't Deserve Love

[Sidney Crosby]

I read your article, but I think it's more focused on obese girls. I was more talking about a girl that's 5'8 ish being 20lbs overweight not 40lbs or more.

And I didn't mean fixing a girl to marry. If that was the case I would look for a girl that's already thin and has lots of family pressure (other hot sisters or moms) to keep her that way.

[Christian McQueen]

It's about potential though: if a girl is already on a decline, do you think you can save her from herself?

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Tried... didn't work.

The tide of hamster fueled by feminism, her friends, media and internet is overwhelming. You are just a tiny voice in the wilderness and have no hope of either convincing or inspiring her to lose weight against all the voices reassuring her that curves are beautiful or that you are obviously not a real man if you're complaining about her weight.

If you inflict a major emotional trauma on her and make it clear that it was because of her weight then it might work, but all in all your chances are low.

[SydneyD]

The Law of Abundance

there are literally hundreds of prettier slender girls walking on the streets or twerking in the clubs. This is why it makes zero sense to me that you're wasting your time trying to change 'damaged goods' instead of spending it more effectively trying to fuck the hotter girls floating around your city.

You are not applying the Law of Abundance into your game. You need to do this ASAP if you want to improve. (it doesn't matter how fucking hot she might look if she lost a few pounds, point is she HASN'T and she probably WON'T!)

my humble diagnosis is that you are suffering from a mild case of Oneitis which is why you're prepared to wait around (or Orbit) this layer of fat until she finally decides to hit the gym.

You're probably not getting laid often enough which is why you're thinking so much about a fattie (or a chubster haha). My humble prescription for you is to start Approaching more and meeting hotter women and stop trying to fix damaged women. If she doesn't give a flying fuck about her body, her appearance and her health then why should you?

[lowside]

i tried that.

fast forward a couple of years:

we're living together, she has become seriously fat, i cheat on her because of that. i don't really give a fuck anymore because she cleans the house, cooks and has a job. also i get to fuck tight bitches on the side. she seems happy.

good luck my friend.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Ted Mosby: You go to a gym, don't you?
Barney Stinson: I go to World Fitness, but I don't go to work out.
Ted Mosby: You don't?
Barney Stinson: No, I go to invest.
Barney Stinson: [at the gym] There's one of my investments. Hey, Sheila! Looking good!
Ted Mosby: You invest in women?
Barney Stinson: I invest in women who - How can I put this delicately? - They fat! I give them the attention they don't get now, and when they get hot, who do they come to? The guy who gave them attention back when they weren't.
Ted Mosby: I don't know if I should be disgusted or impressed.

Apart from that kind of "investment" a few girls sometimes manage to change their complete lifestyles, but that is rare and needs her inner desire for change altering eating habits, workouts etc. :

   

[nogamenick]

I usually change a girl's style and get her to go to the gym. But that doesn't mean I hit on fatties and make them lose all the weight. It just doesn't work. The problem is in their head and the bad attitude that comes with being fat is so horrible and off putting to me, I don't want to spend a second with a person like that. Life is too short yo. I usually just find an acceptable 6/7 and turn her into an 8

[MtnMan]

I would rather be without a girl than with a chubbster that I was trying to convince to get skinny. Sounds like hell, and not worth it.

Maybe just bang her out if you need to get laid, but sticking with a chubby bitch with the idea that you are going to convince her to get skinny and stay that way is a fucking stupid idea IMO.

The desire for self improvement must come from within.

[AneroidOcean]

(06-25-2014 12:31 AM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

I read your article, but I think it's more focused on obese girls. I was more talking about a girl that's 5'8 ish being 20lbs overweight not 40lbs or more.

And I didn't mean fixing a girl to marry. If that was the case I would look for a girl that's already thin and has lots of family pressure (other hot sisters or moms) to keep her that way.

Of the girls I've dated that were that height or taller, if they were 20 lbs heavier they would look atrocious. 40lbs heavier? They'd be seriously obese and be shaped like the Pilsbury Doughboy.

Fuck that noise. Maybe if you're talking a girl max 10 lbs overweight at 5'8" or taller, then yes there might be some potential, but 20 lbs? Nope.

[samsamsam]

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-23976.html
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-20534.html

Some threads of fat chicks to thin.

Why have a project when they don't want to do it themselves.

Also, never be serious with a chick that was once fat, even though she is thin now. One mental breakdown and she is gonna swell.

[From Vegas to Tokyo]

From past experience, your time is better spent investing in yourself over anyone else around you. For every time you spend nagging your 'fixer girl' to come to the gym with you, get fit, and look hot, you could be spending more time in the gym, spending more time on your hustle, and thus be able to pull the girl the 'fixer girl' would hopefully become, with zero risk (no chance of fruitless efforts and wasted time trying to get this girl to be hot). For every 'fixer girl' who works, there are going to be 10 who have been brainwashed by 'big is beautiful'.

Spend your time investing in you, rather than trying to 'fix' someone who might not be fixable. There are girls out there (especially 8s and 9s) that aren't spoiled little cunts. It's usually the 6-7 range that are the worst. Why try to turn a 5 into a 7 when you could just invest more into yourself and have a better, more fulfilling lifestyle and be banging/dating/ltring 8s and 9s who don't have attitude issues?

[Vaun]

You may get her to lose some weight, or remove that giant protruding mole in the middle of her forehead that she strangely left there(true story). At the end of the day, she is who she is, and will do what she wants. The same programming in her head is still there, unless of course, you want to set out on a psychological house painting job. I would rather go play golf. Be assured that any of these fixer upper successes came as a result to keep you around, i.e. your earning potential. Most definitely it will unravel, worse than where you started.

Last night I took out what at first in my approach appeared to be a 7, with a body & natural look of a 9. Russian girl, 25, former professional dancer. Artist and designer for a major fashion label. She likes to dress it down as the fashion industry people do. Is she a fixer upper? I dont know, shes a naturally sexy attractive girl without the window dressing. I would have to be in to her look for anything long term.

[RockHard]

No.

#1 relationship rule: you can't fix people.

[Wahawahwah]

You can fix her once she loves you and cares enough about you.

However once she does get thin male attention will increase exponentially.
More options equals more probability to cheat.
How good is your game? Will u still be able to lock her down? How prepared are u to deal with increased shit?

9 out of 10 times it's not worth it.

Only if ur married to her or in a serious relationship and can vet her personality should u go about trying to get her to lose weight. Lots of fish in the sea

[WestIndianArchie]

Been there, done that.

Worked too well, my project chick got scooped up by a trust fund kid. In the short term, I was heated, but looking back on it, gained more than I lost. The wall will not be kind to her, and his game is schizophrenic.

Never again

WIA

[DJ-Matt]

A man marries a woman hoping she won't change.
A woman marries a man hoping he will.

[Sidney Crosby]

My whole idea started for this thread came from a while ago when I met this chubbier girl at the bar, I was pretty drunk but she had nice tits and a decent a face. I made out with her and rubbed her pussy a little (through her dress) and she's on my FB now but I decided she was too fat for me to be interested at the time.

I looked at a few pictures on her FB and noticed she's on a downward trend (weight wise) cause of girls commenting "you look so healthy! Etc. so in a few months or if ever she becomes hot I'll message her.

[eradicator]

sounds like a huge mistake to invest in her improvement-she will leave after you put all of the work into her. if she wants to improve on her own, and does so, and you take an interest in her after she does the hard work, then sure.

[RockHard]

I had a thought on this: what you can fix up is her surroundings. I've noticed that small town girls are usually better catches. Yes, there's a lot of fucked up trash in the sticks but there's also good girls from good families. So, for an LTR if you can find a way to attract a girl and then get her to relocate, you can then work on getting her to keep herself looking good - getting good skin care, exercise, diet, all that.

Small town girls seem to have a short shelf life. If they haven't left for college they're probably shacked up and popping out kids by the time they're 24, at least that's what I've seen happening. You live in a place where they unironically advertise deep fried twinkies, and people thing the fixins on a burger count as your daily vegetable, the odds of her staying thin are not great.

[Parlay44]

Don't bother. You're sending the wrong message to the world. Somewhere down the line she'll give up and get fat again and pull the line "Well this is what I looked like when we first started dating. What's your problem?"

The ideal female weight is about 100 to 125 pounds based on her height. I'd give her some slack if she falls in that window.

I should invent a fridge security lock that's tied to a scale. It doesn't open if the person's weight is over 125

[Mr. B]

Did it once, but never again. Why? Opportunity costs.

I was a solid 7 and went chubby chasing on a 4-5 with the right potential. She flipped to a 7 over three years. 4-5-6 was awesome; she would do anything I told her to and didn't care much about what I did. At a solid 6, I started getting attitude along with the same old chunky-monkey/white whale mentality. At 7 I sent her packing. I wouldn't fuck her with a borrowed dick today...and I still get hate mail from her crazy ass.

In the end, I kept my results while she kept hers. She is still a 7 with even worse attitude than when I had her around, and hitting the wall HARD because of abusing her body with food the bulk of her life.

I cock blocked myself. It cost me three years of my life, several 7-8's (several of which were her 7+ friends) and a ton of energy I could have been pouring in to myself getting to 8+. I chased my own tail for three years get more problems than I would have going pre-made, and I wasn't any better for it.

Why waste your time? Fixer-upper your own shit, keep your own results and pull up, not down.

[arribaperro]

If you put all your time and energy to fix her up, is this not a form of oneitis?

[Mongo]

Why focus time and energy on enriching somebody else's life who hasn't earned it? Worry about yourself first, then let the non-project chicks come beat down your door.