[Kaebs]

South Africa + Botswana Datasheet

Over the past 7 seven years I’ve spent my fair share of time living in different cities in South Africa & Botswana and I think it’s time to that other roosh members by posting a datasheet on what it seems to be unknown land to many members

NOTE 1: This datasheet will be covering Johannesburg, South Africa & Gaborone, Botswana

NOTE 2: When you come here you must forget about any preconceive ideas western media have brainwashed people about the place… For example on the apparent HIV/AIDS epidemic. HAHAHAH is all I can say and I have yet to have met someone who has AIDS. Although Just use a condom to avoid other common STDs like herpes. But then again I have friends who only rarely use condoms.

Johannesburg

What Girls in Jhannesburg Are Like

In Johannesburg you will find many different types of girls ranging from black, white, indian, muslim, Coloured (a girl mixed between black & white  In the USA people simply call them black but here we decide to be special and call them Coloured ) In terms of white they range British, Italian, and many other European countries

White Girls: Although most of these girls will try to act high-end, most of them aren’t and are actually the easiest to pull especially if you are a foreigner

Black Girls: I can say in confidence that the black girls here are the hottest in all of Africa

Muslims & Indians: Most of these girls will only hook up with other Indians & Muslims except for in Botswana where they are open to all

Coloured: Same as Muslim & Indian girls but you can get with them at bars, clubs or while you are day gaming

Type of Game Needed:

Western game is KING here, just note that girls are extremely playful here so knowing when a girl is into or when she’s fooling you is important. Depending on your style and level of game most people should be able to pull.

Accommodation

This cityis MASSIVE in terms of logistics. I cannot fucking emphasize how big Johannesburg is!!! There are four main regions in the north, south east and west. I suggest staying in the region in which you will be going out in which should either be in the north or in the east.

Like I just mentioned, try and book a place in either the east or the north. Try and get a place in a guest house or in a lodge as Hotels are quite expensive!!!


Crime & Transportation

Avoid all people and public taxis offering to give you a lift. Let me say that one more time AVOID ALL PUBLIC TAXIS & PEOPLE OFFERING YOU A LIFT. Only get a PRIVATE taxi from the airport information center or one from a branded company. If you do this then you should be fine. Getting a driver you make life even easier.

In terms of logistics travelling around here is similar to Sao Paulo, try to stay in one area per day and you’ll be fine. And by area I mean either in the north or in the east.

The reason I keep on referring to Johannesburg as 4 different sections is because each section is sooooo massive to the point that you’ll save soooo much money & time on transportation and it’ll improve your logistics on pulling girls

Day Game

Day game here is a bit weird compared to places that most members have been to. The actual city center (CBD) is a shit hole and a dump and is why people say South Africa is dangerous . This is why you must stay out of it and rather hit the suburbs around it. Primarily in the East and North.
In the North you should hit up Sandton City & Nelson Mandela Square on weekends as it will be ROLLING with pussy. Also try Rosebank, Fourways Mall, Clearwater, Cresta and you can even try Cradlestone which is new.
In the east hit up Greenstone, Bedford Centre, Eastgate

Just speak to any girl you see, even ones in groups, tell them you’re a foreigner and that you want to have fun. Then get their number.

Night Game

Night game is tops her with soooo many bars and clubs to choose from. But for clubs make sure that there’s either a big party happening at it or a big DJ is there. Use this website for tips: http://www.party42nite.co.za/ and also Facebook too. There’s simply toooo many to name. Just once gain try and stay out of the CBD as even though there may be pumping parties, it’s not safe if you are a foreigner

Gaborone

Such an utter opposite of Johannesburg with this city being TINY, yet you would be a fool to skip out on the pussy waiting to pounce on foreigners. These girls LOVE people from other countries, especially ones with accents (NO joke).

Partying is much cheaper here than in Johannesburg and 200 Pula (their currency) would be enough for a night out + 150 Pula for transportation
Since Gaborone is what most would call a small town in comparison to Johannesburg, things here move quite slowly. So people are in much less of a rush. Thus always try to talk to people and girls wherever you go as they will stop and almost always offer you their time.

Although things here are slow, you can actually move much faster will a girl than in Johannesburg . I have no clue to why this is true all I know is that IT IS TRUE


What Girls in Gaborone are like:

Very similar to Johannesburg in term of the range of the types of girls which are here.

White Girls: Once again even if some act high end but they are simply bullshiting you. If you are a beginner and you can’t pull a white girl here then you might as well just 4 the rest of your life cause they are TOO EASY. I cannot stress enough how easy they are.

Black girls: Here they aren’t as easy as the white chicks but still, there are too many of them so just go for them

Muslims & Indians: The total opposite of Johannesburg in that they hook up with other races much more often. Although they are a bit harder, but they are mos definitely god girlfriend material

Coloured: Same as black girls


Accommodation:

Guest houses & lodges are extremely cheap here but you may opt for a hotel in the form of the Grand Palm Or the Gaborone Sun.
The hotel is actually the better option if you’ve got the cash as you can simply invite a girl you meet to the hotel bar/restaurant --> Get them drunk on the alcohol --> tell her you want to charge your phone in your room -->

Crime & Transportation

Exact opposite of Johannesburg, lol don’t even worry about getting taxis. Take private taxis wherever you find them. Crime is minimal. Just make sure you leave any valuables in your hotel room.
I have underlined the word Private taxi as there is a massive difference between private and public taxis.

Day Game

Day game here is quite minimal with how hot this place can get, it’s basically a semi-dessert but every restaurant & house has air-conditioning so you will be fine. However you should still try your luck

Hit up Riverwalk, the CBD, Airport junction mall, Game city or the Dada mall.
Night Game

Clubs are usually quiet during the week so try and only hit them Friday or Saturday. They all usually close by 2 am too and start dying out by about 1 am

Bull n Bush is always pumping on weekends

The Yatch club is a nice one and you can try it out on Wednesdays and Fridays. You can actually see South Africa from here which is quite remarkable.

Other nice venues or Linga Lange, the night club in Pakalane, Boulevard, and the one in the CBD. There are 1-2 new ones that I forget their names so just ask a local or a taxi driver.

Things to do during the day other than girls:

Hit up the mokolodi game reserve as it’s a magical place and just ask your taxi driver or a local as they’ll know if there is anything else which is new or unique

Tips for a great trip:

These two cities in Southern Africa can make for an awesome 3-4 week stay:
-1 week in the east of Johannesburg
-1 week in the north of Johannesburg
-1 week in Gaborone
-1 extra week in which ever of the three places you enjoyed the most
On making friends
-Try to only make friends with HIGH END men as this will save you a lot of time as they will be able to introduce you to their social circle of girls and parties

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Excellent drop OP

Recently caught on netflix Anthony Bourdain's "Parts Unknown" South Africa and Congo episodes which also rekindled my interest in the continent.

...looking forward to more intel on Botswana.

[Global Entry]

good data sheet for less travelled locations.

beware of the hiv issue in Botswana and S.A. though…from wikipedia -
HIV/AIDS epidemic[edit]
Main article: HIV/AIDS in Botswana


Life expectancy in several African countries from 1960 to 2002. Botswana had the highest life expectancy until HIV/AIDS began to reduce it in the late 1980s.
Like elsewhere in Sub-Saharan Africa, the economic impact of AIDS is considerable. Economic development spending was cut by 10% in 2002–3 as a result of recurring budget deficits and rising expenditure on healthcare services. Botswana has been hit very hard by the AIDS pandemic; in 2006 it was estimated that life expectancy at birth had dropped from 65 to 35 years.[41] However, after Botswana's 2011 census current life expectancy is estimated at 54.06 years.[1] This revision shows the difficulty of accurately estimating the prevalence and impact of HIV/AIDS in the absence of hard numbers.

The prevalence of HIV/AIDS in Botswana was estimated at 24% for adults in 2006.[42] In 2003, the government began a comprehensive program involving free or cheap generic anti-retroviral drugs as well as an information campaign designed to stop the spread of the virus. Under the leadership of Festus Mogae, the Government of Botswana solicited outside help in fighting HIV/AIDS and received early support from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Merck Foundation, and together formed the African Comprehensive HIV AIDS Partnership (ACHAP). Other early partners include the Botswana-Harvard AIDS Institute, of the Harvard School of Public Health and the Botswana-UPenn Partnership of the University of Pennsylvania. According to the 2011 UNAIDS Report, universal access to treatment – defined as 80% coverage or greater – has been achieved in Botswana.[43]

Potential reasons for Botswana's high HIV prevalence include concurrent sexual partnerships, transactional sex, cross-generational sex, and a significant number of people who travel outside of their local communities in pursuit of work. The promiscuous nature of many sexual relationships further impacts the health situation,[citation needed] to the extent that it has given rise to a Love Vocabulary[44] that is unique to the region.

Approximately one in six Batswana has HIV, giving Botswana the second highest infection rate in the world after nearby Swaziland.[45] The government recognises that AIDS will affect the economy and is trying to combat the epidemic, including free anti-retroviral drug treatment and a nation-wide Prevention of Mother-to-Child Transmission program. Botswana has reduced HIV transmission from infected mothers to their children from about 40% to just 4%.

[Kaebs]

Thanks, yea thought i'd just drop something a bit diff

[Biologist]

Thanks for this datasheet. Very interesting!

I always enjoy reading the sheets on the less-travelled places like those in Africa.

[w00t]

thx man I really wanna check out africa some day... love black girls.
can you post some pictures of what typical black girls in south africa look like? like what you could expect to see in a club and during the daytime.

[Kaebs]

(06-09-2014 01:27 AM)w00t Wrote:  

thx man I really wanna check out africa some day... love black girls.
can you post some pictures of what typical black girls in south africa look like? like what you could expect to see in a club and during the daytime.

Haha, yeah bro u must come check it out

Here are some pics I got from my facebook:

           

But fuck, i'm not gonna lie and day ive banged all of them , haha, I just know them

[SydneyD]

the young girls can be real bona fide nymphos but i'm not a fan of the rampant hipster culture.

Interracial Dating isn't that common though even among the younger generation but it does exist.

Locals will have a tough time breaking into social circles but this does not apply to foreigners

[SydneyD]

A bunch of facebook chicks

[pitt]

Damn Sydney that's whats up, I guess I have been sleeping on south africa.

Is it common there to see girls with big asses like the girl on picture number 2? If I want to meet lots of black girls with big butts, should I go to pretoria, Johannesburg or Cape town?

[DjembaDjemba]

What's the scoop with multi-racial foreigners in RSA?

Is there an anti-mulatto bias among the white/Indian/colored chicks?

Is Cape Town better party spot than Joburg?

[Chaos]

Great post!
Some girls look very exotic here. I've never been with a black women but I can't wait to do it.
I'm very curious what personalites and attitudes are among African women.

Africa must be explored.
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Edit.

You say the hottest girls in all Africa are in J:burg. I would like to hear a breakdown on this.
How are they compared to Ethiopian girls and what differs? A lot of people claim they are the hottest.

Which other countries in Africa have you visited and what impressions did you get from the girls?

[rottenapple]

When I was in South Africa (Capetown) I must say I was not impressed with the quality. Perhaps it is better on the other side of the country, but Ethiopia, Ruanda have you beat I'd say when it comes to pretty black girls. Angola also I heard has very nice girls. North Africa as well, Morocco fi but thats another category. But off course as a whole Id say Africa is underrated for sure and many girls are pretty easy to get with and Im sure South Africa has some nice potential as well. About those aids figures, hmm according to official authorities they are very high. The numbers might be skewed within demographies but I would still take a lot of care though. Also in Capetown a white 'afrikaner' told me that aids is concentrated with the blacks and white ratios are very low, also stating that interracial relations are rare as you said, is that true?

[SydneyD]

Pitt, I would stick with Joburg. Pretoria is pretty much the same with just more white girls and Cape Town has more of the mulatto type

that ass is huge even by African standards but i guarantee you will meet your fair share of those with just one afternoon of gaming especially on a late Friday or Saturday afternoon when the bishes are about to hit the clubs. There will definitely be loads more in the clubs.


I won't hate though; Ethiopia and Angola have loads of talent (and a lower HIV rate if that makes you feel better). I don't know too much about Rwanda so I can't judge there.

There's definitely a lot of exploring to be done on the continent

[SydneyD]

I wouldn't expect bias towards a multi-racial foreigner in a country as multi-racial as SA. Play the foreigner card and i'm sure you will reap the rewards regardless of race.

the best parties are definitely in cape town.

[Kaebs]

(06-11-2014 11:33 AM)SydneyD Wrote:  

I wouldn't expect bias towards a multi-racial foreigner in a country as multi-racial as SA. Play the foreigner card and i'm sure you will reap the rewards regardless of race.

the best parties are definitely in cape town.

Fellas listen 2 this guy, haha, just tell bitches ur a foreigner nd they'll loose track of whether ur black or white --> Thank God 4 my american accent