[NIGNOG]

I've read the related threads on RVF and seemingly everything else online and still blow way too quickly (20 seconds if I'm lucky). To the guys who want to insist that premature/rapid ejaculation doesn't exist, please don't bother; I want long exhausting thrusting sessions for my own prolonged pleasure... a lot of girls don't seem to mind me busting early anyway as long as they get off too in other ways, but I also realize that bitches need fucked long and hard too to keep 'em feigning for more dick. I'm really not nervous during sex; I don't worry about whether I'll blow early because I already know it will happen. Unfortunately I've found myself avoiding offers for sex sometimes if I'm getting laid regularly so I don't have to deal with my own disappointment,

Here's everything I've tried that has not helped:
--- fapping before I go out or getting a second wood after I bust inside her. The second wood doesn't come around until at least 30-40 minutes after the first ejaculation during sex, and even that wood doesn't last much, if any, longer before I blast cum again. When masturbating, the second wood might come back in 10 minutes if I focus on porn and seems to last a little longer, but for whatever reason I can't get it back that fast during sex, even if she's hot and jerking it.
--- exercising regularly (running, swimming, & lifting) and eating healthy.
--- slow deep breathing, triangle breathing, focusing on other things, focusing on the sensation...
--- no porn and no fapping for 3-4 months while doing rigorous pelvic floor muscle exercise routines as thoroughly described below had no effect other than maybe a stronger dick muscle:
http://www.pegym.com/forums/premature-ej...urney.html
http://www.pegym.com/forums/premature-ej...guide.html
... although I don't think I could ever do the reverse kegel and reverse root-lock accurately, they just felt like I was flexing my abs, pushing out my gut, or trying to push out imaginary turds.
--- practicing dry orgasms or multi-orgasms. Regardless of if I work on timing and clench my dick muscle with all my might (for up to 40 seconds) and hold back the blast (which I usually can't), the sensation is still there waiting when I release. Or if I try fully relaxing the dick muscle with all my focus, it still launches a huge happy load.
--- stretching my pelvic area and dick muscle.
--- the condoms with the numbing gel don't effect me at all (Durex Performex, IIRC).
--- I tried a cock ring to attempt to hold blood in my cock after orgasm, which didn't work; it still deflates. It was very uncomfortable, prevented some cum from exiting, and made my dick purple and extra veiny.
--- edging, start-stop technique, squeezing the head upon approaching the edge, tugging my balls downwards, putting pressure on my taint... none of that helped.
--- I glanced through Mantak Chia stuff, but tossed it as soon as I realized how much was based on imaginary pseudo energies.

Here's things that do help, but aren't a real practical or healthy solution:
--- regularly taking SSRI antidepressants. Zoloft worked marvelously. But I can't believe that those chemicals are healthy for my body. Unfortunately I couldn't just take one when I needed; it takes a while with regular dosing to work.
--- alcohol. It works some of the time, mostly after a long active night of heavy drinking. I can't get to that point within an hour though; I hate it, I can't drive or speak straight, and again, large amounts of alcohol is an unhealthy poison that I can't rely on everyday.
--- Having the girl ride on top. She has to mount very slowly and not move for a minute or two when I'm fully inside while the sensation slightly lessens; only then can she start to move up & down slowly and I have to tell her to slow down or stop completely often. This still only puts me barely past the minute mark unless she's not moving at all. Some girls are uncomfortable or don't prefer that position and get tired quickly, and it's still nowhere near as fun as bending bitches over and hammering their uterus.

Here are things that I haven't or can't currently try:
--- hypnotism or sex therapy. It would take several intense sessions I'm sure, which would be very expensive, and I have doubts that it'd actually work in the long run. My oilfield job also prevents regular weekly visits.
--- hallucinogens. Even if my job didn't do random drug tests, I take a medication that would react dangerously with them. I also work a LOT (oilfield) and any off time is on-call, so I can't easily plan weekend-long mind trips. If they could work, I'd probably need multiple sessions to see any change (I've had one ayahuasca/DMT session, which had no life-changing effects at all).
--- heavily applying different numbing gels (the numbing condoms didn't work at all). Can you recommend any sprays or gels that do work? This still isn't a long term solution and is very inconvenient: carrying the tube on you when you go out, taking a break to apply it with calculated time for it to become effective, some girls have allergic reactions to it, and you can never barebone because she'd get numb.
--- erectile dysfunction prescriptions to try to shorten my refractory period. I get my first wood just fine so I don't need them nor do I want to rely on them for the same reason I don't want SSRI's or other strange chemicals in my body. Probably expensive too.
--- natural herbs that some claim might delay ejaculation or treat ED to try to shorten my refractory period. If you can recommend any that are promising, please let me know; I'd be more comfortable taking natural over synthetic substances, though I have a lot of doubt and feel like any natural remedy would be a waste of money.
--- Dapoxetine and a related nasal spray, an SSRI for premature ejaculation that reacts quickly and doesn't require a daily regiment, use only when needed. Neither are approved for the US yet and will be expensive.
--- Maybe some far-out native shaman has a crazy custom jungle juice treatment (money, caution, & time needed).
--- Acupuncture. Seems kind of hokey and I hate needles, but might be willing to try if it's affordable and promising. Any thoughts?

I'm not addicted to porn and can go as long as needed without it; I currently only fap 2-3 times/week just because I have no other solid plan of action and still experiment with techniques. And how attractive the bitch I'm with is or how tight her pussy is has no effect. I'm hoping you sex masters have some advice or other tricks up your sleeve that I haven't uncovered. Thanks in advance.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Damn man, that's tough one. Truly exhaustive list, at which I am only able to shake my head in bewilderment. I hope someone provides you with a useful suggestion...

[MidniteSpecial]

How exactly did you edge? Break it down. No homo.

Edging bro. Edging works.


Jerk off for 30 minutes to an hour everyday for a month without cumming. Very simple.

It's like anything else. Train your body. Learn your body. It takes 30 days to break an old habit with constant practice of the new habit. Put in that work.

[Uzisuicide]

Viagra will make you last longer and be ready for round 2 quickly. I've talked to guys who complain that they can't blow on Viagra. Try it.

[Nascimento]

This is a mental thing.

Your mind is powerful. You need to change your beliefs.

Check out Psycho-Cybernetics. It might provide you the solution you are looking for.

[TheBulldozer]

Who the fuck cares. Make that 30 seconds the most enjoyable.

Throw her around. Totally dominate her. Dirty talk. Pull that hair. Face in pillow. Blast all over her and tell her how much you enjoyed it.

It's not your problem that you're horny. Hell they like quick, dirty sex.

Some of my best bangs clock in under a minute. Usually the girl will tell me how hot, rough and dirty that minute was. They enjoy that shit.

[Spider]

You mentioned that SSRIs worked marvelously for you.

Perhaps you can try getting back on them but on a lower dose, so as not to cause as many side-effects.

I have a close friend whose always struggled with pre-mature ejaculation, perhaps to an even more severe degree than you. Funny thing is he's very good looking, has tight game, but didn't wind up having sex until he was 19 because he physically couldn't control his ejaculation. He would jizz in his pants just kissing and getting touched by a girl, or cum while trying to put on a condom.

Anyway he saw a psychiatrist who put him on Zoloft (albeit a lower dose than prescribed for depression), and he's a new man. A lot of people benefit from SSRIs, and I think it may be worth a shot to try a low-dose of Zoloft for a period of time. You can always stop taking them if you're dealing with undesirable effects, or lower your dose until they disappear...your brain will likely be able to reset itself as the brain has a strong capacity for regenerating and healing from various chemicals/drugs etc.

I visited a Urologist who prescribed me Cialis for anxiety-caused ED. Occasionally I'll use it when I'm about to be with a new girl. I notice when I take Cialis I usually last much longer, for whatever reason - I think that's because I don't have to be stimulated as much to get hard, so I'm farther away from ejaculation. My urologist also mentioned that he often prescribes low-dose SSRIs and that it works well for his patients who suffer from PE.

[random]

Technically, you´re the healthy one. As most of people have ejaculation problems, it has become a standard to be banging a chick for several minutes although mother nature wants us to ejaculate as soon as possible. I always find it ridiculous when someone boasts about length of intercourse.

[simondice]

Try doing Kegels
They're the exercises for the muscles used for controlling your ejaculation.
the exercises are as followed:
To find these muscles, when you're urinating, stop the urine mid-stream. Those are the muscles.


Taken from askmen.com:
Practice these Kegel exercises for men

Controlling ejaculation is a huge issue for many men, one that they are often too embarrassed to bring up. How do I control myself? How can I last longer, be firmer and do better? The answer is working out your pubococcygeus muscles (PC) muscles, by doing Kegel exercises for men.

PC muscles control the flow of semen and urine, the firmness of your penis during erection and the shooting power of your ejaculation. They are important, and if kept very strong, will see you into your golden years with a fantastical hard on. The great thing about Kegel exercises for men is that you can do them anywhere, anytime -- and nobody will know the difference.

You will be able to have better sex by being able to better control your orgasms and ejaculations, and last for longer, plus you may get the added kudos of being able to hold up a wet towel with your erection if you practice these Kegel exercises for men.

kegel session 1
Exercise A
Sets: 3
Quickly clench and release repeatedly for 10 seconds.

Take a 10-second break between sets.

Exercise B
Sets: 10
Clench and release repeatedly for 5 seconds.

Take a 5-second break between sets.

Exercise C
Sets: 3
Tighten and hold your PC muscle for 30 seconds.

Take a 30 second break between sets.

That’s it for today, but repeat these Kegel exercises for men daily for one week.

If you want to know more check out this thread:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-12822.html

[nogamenick]

Just think about dead cats during sex. Works for me

[simondice]

(05-06-2014 08:23 PM)random Wrote:  

Technically, you´re the healthy one. As most of people have ejaculation problems, it has become a standard to be banging a chick for several minutes although mother nature wants us to ejaculate as soon as possible. I always find it ridiculous when someone boasts about length of intercourse.

I respectfully disagree with you. Why settle for average, when with just a couple of techniques and exercises, you could evolve in these areas? we are here in this community to improve and rise above as men. Any guy can nut as fast as possible, it takes discipline and work to improve your sex-life whether it's getting it or maintaining it, to a legendary level.

[shanked]

I have one word for you NIGNOG. Fleshlight. Buy the stamina training unit. Whatever time you last on this thing you should be able to last twice as long with a girl.

[Brodiaga]

Try thinking about the following during sex:

-You giving the chick an STD
-You getting an STD from her, like AIDS. What you're going to do if you get it
-Imagine she's about to fart or take a shit (or you are)
-Imagine fucking an ugly, old skank
-Imagine fucking a corpse
-Imagine fucking your boss up the ass

If nothing else works, try doing mental math, like (225+36)*2 + 345 . If that's too easy for you, step it up and try calculus or trigonometry or something.

[edtf]

(05-06-2014 03:23 PM)NIGNOG Wrote:  

I've read the related threads on RVF and seemingly everything else online and still blow way too quickly (20 seconds if I'm lucky). To the guys who want to insist that premature/rapid ejaculation doesn't exist, please don't bother; I want long exhausting thrusting sessions for my own prolonged pleasure... a lot of girls don't seem to mind me busting early anyway as long as they get off too in other ways, but I also realize that bitches need fucked long and hard too to keep 'em feigning for more dick. I'm really not nervous during sex; I don't worry about whether I'll blow early because I already know it will happen. Unfortunately I've found myself avoiding offers for sex sometimes if I'm getting laid regularly so I don't have to deal with my own disappointment,

Here's everything I've tried that has not helped:
--- fapping before I go out or getting a second wood after I bust inside her. The second wood doesn't come around until at least 30-40 minutes after the first ejaculation during sex, and even that wood doesn't last much, if any, longer before I blast cum again. When masturbating, the second wood might come back in 10 minutes if I focus on porn and seems to last a little longer, but for whatever reason I can't get it back that fast during sex, even if she's hot and jerking it.
--- exercising regularly (running, swimming, & lifting) and eating healthy.
--- slow deep breathing, triangle breathing, focusing on other things, focusing on the sensation...
--- no porn and no fapping for 3-4 months while doing rigorous pelvic floor muscle exercise routines as thoroughly described below had no effect other than maybe a stronger dick muscle:
http://www.pegym.com/forums/premature-ej...urney.html
http://www.pegym.com/forums/premature-ej...guide.html
... although I don't think I could ever do the reverse kegel and reverse root-lock accurately, they just felt like I was flexing my abs, pushing out my gut, or trying to push out imaginary turds.
--- practicing dry orgasms or multi-orgasms. Regardless of if I work on timing and clench my dick muscle with all my might (for up to 40 seconds) and hold back the blast (which I usually can't), the sensation is still there waiting when I release. Or if I try fully relaxing the dick muscle with all my focus, it still launches a huge happy load.
--- stretching my pelvic area and dick muscle.
--- the condoms with the numbing gel don't effect me at all (Durex Performex, IIRC).
--- I tried a cock ring to attempt to hold blood in my cock after orgasm, which didn't work; it still deflates. It was very uncomfortable, prevented some cum from exiting, and made my dick purple and extra veiny.
--- edging, start-stop technique, squeezing the head upon approaching the edge, tugging my balls downwards, putting pressure on my taint... none of that helped.
--- I glanced through Mantak Chia stuff, but tossed it as soon as I realized how much was based on imaginary pseudo energies.

Here's things that do help, but aren't a real practical or healthy solution:
--- regularly taking SSRI antidepressants. Zoloft worked marvelously. But I can't believe that those chemicals are healthy for my body. Unfortunately I couldn't just take one when I needed; it takes a while with regular dosing to work.
--- alcohol. It works some of the time, mostly after a long active night of heavy drinking. I can't get to that point within an hour though; I hate it, I can't drive or speak straight, and again, large amounts of alcohol is an unhealthy poison that I can't rely on everyday.
--- Having the girl ride on top. She has to mount very slowly and not move for a minute or two when I'm fully inside while the sensation slightly lessens; only then can she start to move up & down slowly and I have to tell her to slow down or stop completely often. This still only puts me barely past the minute mark unless she's not moving at all. Some girls are uncomfortable or don't prefer that position and get tired quickly, and it's still nowhere near as fun as bending bitches over and hammering their uterus.

Here are things that I haven't or can't currently try:
--- hypnotism or sex therapy. It would take several intense sessions I'm sure, which would be very expensive, and I have doubts that it'd actually work in the long run. My oilfield job also prevents regular weekly visits.
--- hallucinogens. Even if my job didn't do random drug tests, I take a medication that would react dangerously with them. I also work a LOT (oilfield) and any off time is on-call, so I can't easily plan weekend-long mind trips. If they could work, I'd probably need multiple sessions to see any change (I've had one ayahuasca/DMT session, which had no life-changing effects at all).
--- heavily applying different numbing gels (the numbing condoms didn't work at all). Can you recommend any sprays or gels that do work? This still isn't a long term solution and is very inconvenient: carrying the tube on you when you go out, taking a break to apply it with calculated time for it to become effective, some girls have allergic reactions to it, and you can never barebone because she'd get numb.
--- erectile dysfunction prescriptions to try to shorten my refractory period. I get my first wood just fine so I don't need them nor do I want to rely on them for the same reason I don't want SSRI's or other strange chemicals in my body. Probably expensive too.
--- natural herbs that some claim might delay ejaculation or treat ED to try to shorten my refractory period. If you can recommend any that are promising, please let me know; I'd be more comfortable taking natural over synthetic substances, though I have a lot of doubt and feel like any natural remedy would be a waste of money.
--- Dapoxetine and a related nasal spray, an SSRI for premature ejaculation that reacts quickly and doesn't require a daily regiment, use only when needed. Neither are approved for the US yet and will be expensive.
--- Maybe some far-out native shaman has a crazy custom jungle juice treatment (money, caution, & time needed).
--- Acupuncture. Seems kind of hokey and I hate needles, but might be willing to try if it's affordable and promising. Any thoughts?

I'm not addicted to porn and can go as long as needed without it; I currently only fap 2-3 times/week just because I have no other solid plan of action and still experiment with techniques. And how attractive the bitch I'm with is or how tight her pussy is has no effect. I'm hoping you sex masters have some advice or other tricks up your sleeve that I haven't uncovered. Thanks in advance.

Have you ever heard of Death Grip? Its a syndrome that men have when they jerk off using an iron tight grip, which eventually de-sensitizes their penis so much that they are unable to come from being inside a pussy. It is the opposite end of the spectrum from what you have. I used to do this, and I could thrust for like 20 minutes and not even be close to coming, I would only stop when the girl said she had comed twice already and wanted to stop. For you, maybe you can try this and see if it desensitizes you.

[The Beast1]

I know you mentioned numbing gel condoms, but have you just tried regular condoms? Condoms literally make it damn near impossible for me to get off.

I used to have this problem too. In fact, the first girl i hooked up with in college i nuted in liked 45 seconds too.

This might sound strange, but have you tried getting a girlfriend or long term fwb where you can bang her raw as often as you can until you become desensitized to it?

Also, don't take SSRIs. Those things are bad news.

[Collide]

(05-06-2014 03:56 PM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  

Jerk off for 30 minutes to an hour everyday for a month without cumming. Very simple.

Won't that just give you blue balls?

[weambulance]

(05-06-2014 09:57 PM)edtf Wrote:  

(05-06-2014 03:23 PM)NIGNOG Wrote:  

I've read the related threads ...

Have you ever heard of Death Grip? Its a syndrome that men have when they jerk off using an iron tight grip, which eventually de-sensitizes their penis so much that they are unable to come from being inside a pussy. It is the opposite end of the spectrum from what you have. I used to do this, and I could thrust for like 20 minutes and not even be close to coming, I would only stop when the girl said she had comed twice already and wanted to stop. For you, maybe you can try this and see if it desensitizes you.

Yeah, if I'm jerking off regularly I'll take forever to come in regular sex. I don't use a death grip, but it's pretty firm. I intentionally desensitized my dick in my teens because I like fucking a girl for 30+ minutes straight and the girls I was banging back then loved it. Plenty of times nowadays I just don't come because the girl starts getting sore , or I have to really focus to make it happen. If a girl is exceptionally tight I'll still come but girls that tight are rare. I've never come from a handjob and if a girl can't deepthroat me like a pro I'm not coming from a blowjob either. It kinda sucks, actually.

Interestingly, I'll come a lot quicker with a condom on because of the way it puts pressure on my dick. It doesn't feel anywhere near as good as raw and I come quicker. I hate condoms.

If I stop jerking off for a week or so I'll come much quicker the first time, then be rock hard and last a long time in round two. So when I'm getting regular pussy, I stop jerking off completely unless I'm looking at 3+ days between bangs.

MaleDefined also gave really good advice to make the experience really intense for her by tossing her around and getting her really worked up before actually banging her. Don't worry about whether she came or not, and don't ask. Just manhandle her and take her for your pleasure. She'll love it and want more.

[tiggaling]

Try 300 mics of LSD and the herb Rhodiola Rosea... it worked wonders for me!

But honestly, you really need a good partner (no condom) who is a patient, and knows to help you with this.

And also, age helps. I know one guy who really couldn't last any amount of time until he was 45, at which time he became a major playboy for the next 20 years!

Rob Brezny has a good story about how he got over this issue here:

http://freewillastrology.com/beauty/beau...n163.shtml

[Pinocchio]

beer is your friend

[Jackreacher]

There is a seminal cord you can close using your index and middle finger located between your balls slightly above. Before you ejaculate apply a decent amount of pressure to close off the ejaculation. You'll still go through the ejaculation movements but you won't release any fluid, your body will take this as if you can have sex again, very shortly after. You can continue doing this until you finally do ejaculate. This is a band-aid on your problem but you will be able to last quite long as long as you can keep it pinched every time you need release and enjoy all the pleasure from holding out.

[kosko]

(05-06-2014 08:06 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  

Who the fuck cares. Make that 30 seconds the most enjoyable.

Throw her around. Totally dominate her. Dirty talk. Pull that hair. Face in pillow. Blast all over her and tell her how much you enjoyed it.

It's not your problem that you're horny. Hell they like quick, dirty sex.

Some of my best bangs clock in under a minute. Usually the girl will tell me how hot, rough and dirty that minute was. They enjoy that shit.

I've been thinking this also. If you could poll most broads (honestly) they will say they like it hard, rough, and quick. But it's easier said then done. You don't rarely get repeat bangs if you dealing with this shit and for me those rough and furry bangs only clock in well if you spend the good amount of time prior warming her up.

Most broads are dumb tho. You would think with a life of having cocks inside of you they should know when a dude nuts. Most don't know and they get the confused/surprised look when you try and grind out a few more thrusts before your dick dies..."what?! You came?! Noooo!"... I have found that I could get repeat bangs if I did the other things well. One broad mentioned how she liked the contrast of me dominating her and treating her like a white to the soft kissing shit and comforting shit I do in between slamming then around and gagging ten with the meat. Another instance was when I didn't even get her off with my dick. I blasted early and tried to buy time keeping her warm with my hands so I get it back up for round 2. I ended up just finger fucking her while holding her head into a pillow and pulling her hair and she squirted 3 times from that and then went like a vacuum cleaner to my dick in gratitude.

There are ways to hack it, but it's not always easy. And unless you suffer from the issue it's hard to internalize and understand. I've had broads kick me out of three beds because they were pissed off the sex didn't go how they wanted. I laugh it now, but in the moment, I don't give a shit how "Alpha" and "DGAF" you are it's a hit on you as a man. Yeah she's a overarctive cunt, but in her shoes the majority of men.. No matter how broke, bummy, poor, can at least (for the most part) fuck on a serviceable level. I.e hd an erection and fuck for the minimum average of like 5mins. So when a dude can't.. It's glaring and sticks out. Having instances like that can be a death blow to a mans ego because a lot of birches three days call you out on it an you really have little in defense to answer back with.

[kosko]

(05-07-2014 09:07 AM)Jackreacher Wrote:  

There is a seminal cord you can close using your index and middle finger located between your balls slightly above. Before you ejaculate apply a decent amount of pressure to close off the ejaculation. You'll still go through the ejaculation movements but you won't release any fluid, your body will take this as if you can have sex again, very shortly after. You can continue doing this until you finally do ejaculate. This is a band-aid on your problem but you will be able to last quite long as long as you can keep it pinched every time you need release and enjoy all the pleasure from holding out.

It's not healthy to do this long term. Picture bending a garden hose and then turning on the water on full blast... That bugle in the hose can happen to your seminal cord. Not good.

I used to do that method all the time but read it was bad for your parts long term and stopped. I only use it now in emergency situations.

[roberto]

Meditation can work wonders. That's meditation whilst banging her. Of course you will need to become proficient in meditation beforehand, but it's worth doing regardless.

[Jackreacher]

(05-07-2014 10:13 AM)kosko Wrote:  

(05-07-2014 09:07 AM)Jackreacher Wrote:  

There is a seminal cord you can close using your index and middle finger located between your balls slightly above. Before you ejaculate apply a decent amount of pressure to close off the ejaculation. You'll still go through the ejaculation movements but you won't release any fluid, your body will take this as if you can have sex again, very shortly after. You can continue doing this until you finally do ejaculate. This is a band-aid on your problem but you will be able to last quite long as long as you can keep it pinched every time you need release and enjoy all the pleasure from holding out.

It's not healthy to do this long term. Picture bending a garden hose and then turning on the water on full blast... That bugle in the hose can happen to your seminal cord. Not good.

I used to do that method all the time but read it was bad for your parts long term and stopped. I only use it now in emergency situations.

I agree with this at best it is a short term solution, it will give him some form of control over his situation but it can come with a cost.

[monster]

best short term solution i've found is viagra. you're refractory period is like 15 min then you're hard as a rock again.

make up some excuse for the first quick nut "stressful day at work i needed that" or "i havent jerked off in a month" or some shit and just buy some time to round 2. "round 1s for me round 2s for u"

long term solution is finding a gf to get comfortable with and practice with, and supplementing that with therapy such as meditation & similar.