[bike0369]

Hey guys, starting a new thread because can't find good enough info on this.

I'm doing well with 30-35 yr old girls, but having very limited success with 20-28 yr olds. After working on increasing the notch count over past six-eight months, I am starting to look for a relationship (please don't bash, whatever works for everyone; I just find the effort of hunting for new chicks time consuming.), and 6+ 20-28 is what I want to focus on (I'm 36.) Met an Asian 9 this week in a professional setting, failed at getting a date with her, which is what made me think hard.

In past two-three months, I've had a first date/meet with at least 15 6+ and less than 28 yo girls. 5-7 Asians- typically Chinese, 4-5 French, 1-2 English, 2 Scandinavians. Almost all from a social/professional setting, and I am not getting any luck with any of them! The farthest I've got with any of them are the girls 1 and 3 from this post.

Typical excuses I get- I already have a BF, I am busy with job search, or the interaction dies after a few texts. No one ever said she is not looking for relationship or a guy yet, or I am too old etc - ie not much shit testing. So I am wondering if there is a specific game that I need to run on them or change my style, or whatever that is working on older chicks but not on the younger and slightly more beautiful ones...

All suggestions welcome.

[Beyond Borders]

Looking for a girlfriend is a problematic stance to come from.

You may not think you're doing anything different, but chances are you're sending out a vibe that tends to be unattractive.

My experience in the past has been that if I can truly wipe that desire out of my mind, women come easier and relationship opportunities tend to just present themselves.

This dynamic has been confirmed through conversations with my brother and other friends who don't read up on game ideas. It's almost cliche to say that relationships find you when you're not looking for them.

Try slowing your roll a little bit and just keep playing the field as usual. When you come across a quality girl worth dating who is digging you, you can make your decision then.

[bike0369]

BeyongBorders, that's a good point. Thanks.

The question comes back to how to truly wipe desire for some of these 'almost gems' when everyone else is a pump and dump in my view. My respect for girls in general has gone down significantly over past year since red pill, so when a girl says right from the beginning that she has a boyfriend, I have a bit of respect for her. Question is to find one such chick when she is fresh broke from her past relationship or something...

Of course I keep on running games and spinning the plates.

[Beyond Borders]

(04-28-2014 05:54 AM)bike0369 Wrote:  

BeyongBorders, that's a good point. Thanks.

The question comes back to how to truly wipe desire for some of these 'almost gems' when everyone else is a pump and dump in my view. My respect for girls in general has gone down significantly over past year since red pill, so when a girl says right from the beginning that she has a boyfriend, I have a bit of respect for her. Question is to find one such chick when she is fresh broke from her past relationship or something...

Of course I keep on running games and spinning the plates.

Hmmm...can't think of anything too substantial to offer. I will say that it can help to have a lot of hot women in your social circle(s). Don't just bone out on the conversation with a chick because you find out she's taken - you can still socialize with her. And guys who know a woman when she's in a relationship are a lot more likely to know when she's suddenly single. Trying to find those girls at the bar is sheer gambling, and given the short amount of time that beautiful women stay single, the odds are not in your favor to strike it rich.

Also, by knowing lots of women, you'll also be more likely to get wind of a friend of theirs who is newly single. Maybe they'll even try to set you up.

If this red pill stuff is making you see all women in a negative light, establishing some genuine friendships with women might do you some good in that department too.

Remember, all this stuff should improve our lives. If it makes it worse, might as well pretend it doesn't exist and live in ignorant bliss. Life is complex and a lot of the red pill thinking is built on a framework of brash generalizations.

I'm not denying there's truth to some of it, but it's never as simple as it sounds.

Focus on the things within your sphere of influence and learn to leave the rest alone. Or at least distract yourself enough with the positives that you don't dwell on the rest too much.