[jackwalker]

OK so I just finished reading the thread "how many cold approaches have you done in your career" and I noticed that several of the veterans mentioned their innate ability to see who is open to being approached and who isn't. Therefore their approach rate goes down, but their success rate goes up.

I prefer day game much more than clubs/bars etc. I notice that when I'm out and about and dressed well I get looked up and down by more than half the female species. (I wear dark sunglasses so I can scan the area for female glances without them knowing I see them looking haha) I live in Beverly Hills/West LA so the honeys here are top notch in looks and there are a shitload of them.

Do you experienced cads have a recipe for selecting the girls that will be warmer to smooth advances versus not so open to them? Common sense dictates that I should approach any hottie who checks me out, but theres no way over half the girls in beverly hills are interested in me. I'm in good shape good looking guy, but I want to reduce my rejection rate as much as the next player.

[getinherenow]

If you want to avoid rejection, avoid day game altogether. The efficiency rate for day game is low and that is just common sense. Unless you are a celebrity or something, what is the possibility of hooking up with some random girl you meet when out and about? I suppose if you are a very good looking guy and ok with hooking up with unattractive women, then there is plenty of options but if you have standards.... For sure day game works but there are more easier and time efficient ways to go about it.

Focus on social game, it is something society has always preached about. But these fuckwit retarded PUA gurus dismissed as a load of tosh just as they went around saying 'you could be fat, broke, ugly and still pull 10s'. Yeah Right!

[Dusty]

I smell one or two

[Courage Reborn]

^lol

OP, approach women when their eyes break downward. Not to the side.

And slow walkers

[jessup25]

Getinherenow is right in a way. I don't think there's many ways to avoid high rejection rates in day game. Maybe with roosh and G levels of experience you do just know who's open and who isn't, but experience doesn't come from nowhere. Personally I've just taken to approaching like crazy. Walk by someone and crack a joke. "Woah don't look so happy" that kind of crapola, she smiles press on and other wise, abundance mentality.

[Captain Gh]

(04-16-2014 07:41 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

I smell one or two

Yup... We all do!!!

[Comte De St. Germain]

Our good friend with 3 posts seems to be going


Establish some cred or tell us why exactly everyone has to have low success with Day Game. I mean discrediting an entire section of game while not answering the OP's question is rather big talk. I do agree though I personally prefer social circle game, but that is just MY opinion.

[getinherenow]

In reply to ^

The daygame stats of Krauser is:

http://krauserpua.com/2014/01/01/my-2013-daygame-stats/

1 lay in 37 approaches. So how long is it going to take to do approx. 40 approaches, if you are going to approach only women you like rather then any woman and that is not even considering going on dates with these women. Its like spending full 3 days in the field to get 1 lay and some folks just don't have that sort of time. Personally I prefer daygame because of a lack of dislike to going out night time and booze.

[Comte De St. Germain]

(04-16-2014 09:15 PM)getinherenow Wrote:  

In reply to ^

The daygame stats of Krauser is:

http://krauserpua.com/2014/01/01/my-2013-daygame-stats/

1 lay in 37 approaches. So how long is it going to take to do approx. 40 approaches, if you are going to approach only women you like rather then any woman and that is not even considering going on dates with these women. Its like spending full 3 days in the field to get 1 lay and some folks just don't have that sort of time. Personally I prefer daygame because of a lack of dislike to going out night time and booze.

I'm sorry but I see plenty of Bangable girls all the time, and I approach as many as feasibly possibly without alerting suspicion. If I dedicated an entire day to approaching chicks and not having fun with friends while doing so I would approach 20-35 at least.

[getinherenow]

^

I figure if you spent 8 to 10 hours in the field you could approach 30 women including time spent taking to them. Get a bunch of numbers, call them, work through flakes and go on dates. Given every women is not going to put out on the date, it is probably going to take about 2 full days to get laid.

For some people who are time rich, that is ok but not everyone falls into that category. And that is not taking into account 'practice' time to become skilled at the art.

[Comte De St. Germain]

On a day off I fail to see how this could not work. A weekend or two out day gaming unless you are working a stressful job is more than enough.

[getinherenow]

Opening Poster: If you live in an area that attracts holiday makers, approach women who appear to be tourists. They are more open to adventures and if they are on their own, they'll especially welcome company.

[ladderff]

Courage, would you elaborate on the eye thing?

[Noah]

^Here's a blog post that may help: http://dangerandplay.com/2012/08/27/eye-contact-game/.

[unbowed]

So you want to reduce your rejection rate and you get checked out while dressing up. It's good that you want to be efficient but it also sounds like your ego is preventing you from developing a useful skill.

Where's the risk? Where's the selection? Do you consider yourself a piece of meat that walks around and gets chosen? Do you need eye contact confirmation in passing before you can open your mouth?

I don't know where you are in your game journey but there's no magic bullet; If she caught your attention, she's worth approaching, hot or cold. Put the excel sheet away and pay attention when you see something YOU like. If a girl rejects you, great, it will happen again and again and again and again. Embrace it, you'll learn about yourself.

Say you dress up and a girl checks you out outside a market, you start a conversation. You rely on IOIs and your suit to do the work for you. You have a pleasant 5 minute conversation, take her number and wish each other well. Great you weren't rejected, but since you were focused on "is she warm, she looked at me. She must like me!" Your conversation rested on your laurels and you didn't really attract the girl; you were just talking, hoping the warm approach and suit would autopilot you guys to the bedroom. ... Now you text that number to never get a response. But she gave you IOIs! Should this be tallied under warm rejection?

If you want to daygame, you have to get comfortable with the cold approach. I find it exhausting to be on the lookout for which girl likes me vs who I think looks attractive. You can waste just as much time screening for warm leads in the day vs opening a girl you find attractive, possibly getting rejected and moving on. This doesn't mean I ignore warm approach opportunities, I merely consider them a variation of the situation and calibrate the approach accordingly.

Also it's easier to look for DTF signals at night if you have game/style/status in an alcoholic setting, which encourages spontaneous decisions. The process facilities itself and you just have to move her along without any obstacles getting in your way. The reason the veterans have this 'innate ability' is because they've done their time, have gotten rejected and have fine-tuned their intuition. If you're by the DJ booth popping bottles with models, suddenly all the girls seem warm and approachable. Unless you're consistently rolling with a fun, high-end crew in your day-to-day life, get used to the cold, even in LA.

[Courage Reborn]

(04-16-2014 10:16 PM)ladderff Wrote:  

Courage, would you elaborate on the eye thing?

If you hold eye contact with an attractive women out in public, she will always look away first. The only difference is, she will look away down (submissive, open to your advances) or she'll look away to the side (she's rejecting your interest).

Try it.

[Pinocchio]

8/10 and above. if she gives me a cheeky look and is 7/10 I'll still open her.