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How much time is enough time?
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How much time is enough time?

I've mentioned before that I'm currently studying overseas, and have been since August. This, my entire junior year of college, has been spent overseas, with a short semester break to go home to my family.

I started really getting my shit together with game around 2nd semester freshman year. Day, night and text game were slowly but surely falling into place. By sophomore year I had my shit on point, at least tailored to the crowd I was working with. This was mostly from frequenting totalfratmove and broslikethissite, I had not yet discovered the manosphere in any sense. Bro game works on college girls, and I have that end down pretty well.

This does not mean I didn't slip up on numerous occasions and gave off a crooked beta vibe to some girls. While my ability to pull ONS was smooth, when I met a girl a felt like she was relationship material my game went AWOL and treated her full on blue pill. This also happened to a few girls I was just trying to bang.

So now I have been away from the whole crowd since May. I run in a pretty wide social circle but I have my friends who I keep in close contact with. When I return to campus in the fall I'll most likely have almost zero issues reintegrating myself back in.

However, a lot has changed since then. I discovered TRP, then the blogs, then the forum. I have worked on my weaknesses (text game, relationship game and general power dynamics). I have also gotten significantly bigger, and am in the process of shredding down to 10% BF by August (currently 16%). My style has also made a 180.

Essentially, I will be returning this fall looking and feeling better than I ever did. Do you guys feel like this, paired with being absent for 16 months along with the air of an "international man of mystery" (lots of people know why I'm gone) will be enough to give me a fresh start with the girls I fucked up on? I know they will still have a predisposition based on past events, but I feel like this can be changed with a few early displays of my new and improved self.

Thoughts?

U​ of Roosh Class of 2420
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#2

How much time is enough time?

Quote: (04-16-2014 08:21 AM)Hans Dix Wrote:  

I've mentioned before that I'm currently studying overseas, and have been since August. This, my entire junior year of college, has been spent overseas, with a short semester break to go home to my family.

I started really getting my shit together with game around 2nd semester freshman year. Day, night and text game were slowly but surely falling into place. By sophomore year I had my shit on point, at least tailored to the crowd I was working with. This was mostly from frequenting totalfratmove and broslikethissite, I had not yet discovered the manosphere in any sense. Bro game works on college girls, and I have that end down pretty well.

This does not mean I didn't slip up on numerous occasions and gave off a crooked beta vibe to some girls. While my ability to pull ONS was smooth, when I met a girl a felt like she was relationship material my game went AWOL and treated her full on blue pill. This also happened to a few girls I was just trying to bang.

So now I have been away from the whole crowd since May. I run in a pretty wide social circle but I have my friends who I keep in close contact with. When I return to campus in the fall I'll most likely have almost zero issues reintegrating myself back in.

However, a lot has changed since then. I discovered TRP, then the blogs, then the forum. I have worked on my weaknesses (text game, relationship game and general power dynamics). I have also gotten significantly bigger, and am in the process of shredding down to 10% BF by August (currently 16%). My style has also made a 180.

Essentially, I will be returning this fall looking and feeling better than I ever did. Do you guys feel like this, paired with being absent for 16 months along with the air of an "international man of mystery" (lots of people know why I'm gone) will be enough to give me a fresh start with the girls I fucked up on? I know they will still have a predisposition based on past events, but I feel like this can be changed with a few early displays of my new and improved self.

Thoughts?

Ignore the girls you fucked up with, work on fucking new ones, don't get oneitis.

"Men willingly believe what they wish." - Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico, Book III, Ch. 18
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How much time is enough time?

i can understand the desire to want to get back with old girls that you fucked up with. When you try there will be a psychological anchor tied to them and you will begin acting more like you did before. I still think it's worth a shot and will help your game grow just trying, just don't let it affect your confidence.
Also a quick relationship game tip, just focus on making sure she seems more interested than you do. Be just a little bit more aloof than her. If she tells you she loves you, tell her you like her a lot. That's the idea. Things like this are key in a relationship and it will make the girl start obsessing over you.
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