[SteezeySteve]

So guys i'm a 15 year old in my freshman year of highschool. I've liked this girl since December, i know i should have made some moves a long ass time ago, but hey it's whatever. She shows signs of serious interest,but i'm not sure if she's just attentions whoring or is actually attracted to me,because i've had 2 classes with this girl since the first day of school which was a long ass time ago (we're in the 4th qaurter) so she could have easily freindzoned me by now. (i've straight up told her we're not friends when she asked one time though)
I decided that tomorrow i'm going to do say something to her just get over this,and either A.Move on or B. Take this somewhere I know what needs to be done,I don't exactly give a fuck if it gets awkard (we sit next to each other),because i don't value freindship with girl's
but i'm still having trouble just going through with it. I've told myself i was gonna do it before,but i made excuses.Any tips on what to say/do and make sure i don't pussy out?

[TonySandos]

Hey, we've been talking to each other for a while now. I know I haven't made a move, but that's because I've been checking you out. So anyway, I think you fit my standards and we should go out.

[Switch]

Ok. You obviously actually do care because if you truly didn't care, there's no way you'd pussy out. The only way to develop a true "I don't give a fuck attitude" is to actually have some success. Success is the only way to achieve confidence, too. So just do it. There's really no way around just asking her out. If she says no, start working on another girl the very next class. Good luck.

I'm in high school too. It's good to see other young guys on the forum. Just don't get banned Try the newbie forum next time.

[Isaac Jordan]

While I can't help you much with your particular problem (it's generally a bad idea to get hung up on one girl), I can give you one piece of advice that really helped me during high school:

Focus on girls at other schools.

For the most part, high school students will self-organize into a hierarchy. Where you land in the hierarchy (your status) generally determines your ability to date within the school. Athletes, leaders of extracurricular groups, and older guys usually populate the upper tier for their sex. For women, it's almost always sorted by attractiveness and seniority, although belonging to a certain clique (cheerleaders are the most ubiquitous example) can give a homely girl a leg up.

Girls generally refuse to date down, so if you weren't able to grab a spot at the top you'll have a hard time dating more attractive and/or popular women. At a bigger school this may be less of an issue, but if your school is small enough to where most people know each other, girls will hesitate to date anyone "below them".

Also, gossip spreads quickly throughout a high school, and getting rejected by one girl can make it nearly impossible to succeed with others. No chick wants to be with a guy her friend rejected.

All this can be avoided by dating girls outside your school. When a girl doesn't know your place in the social hierarchy, she looks to other signs to figure out whether you're attractive or not. (Keep in mind that women, unlike men, can't simply look at a guy to know whether he's attractive. They have to judge his behavior in a variety of settings to get a feel for the kind of man he is.)

This gives you, the practitioner of game, a huge advantage. If you're able to approach girls at a mall, coffee shop, house party, concert, etc., she'll have to look to your physique, style, body language, and personality to determine if you're attractive. You can control all of these factors, and just as important, you can improve all of them as well.

In addition, this allows you to easily brush off rejection. If your high school crush turns you down, your status will take a massive hit, and you can basically forget about getting with any of her friends. If a chick at the mall turns you down, no one will find out, and your reputation remains intact. Cold approaching in this way allows you to build up a solid skill set over time, instead of sabotaging any future attempts you might make.

[BDawg]

Is it the same girl as in this thread?

"Hey, I'm going to _______ would you like to join me?"

Once you leave the environment of school, some of what she is really about can emerge.

It sounds like this would be really difficult for you though, so you are free to do what you want.

[spokepoker]

(04-15-2014 01:52 PM)BDawg Wrote:  

"Hey, I'm going to _______ would you like to join me?"

Not to nitpick, but be a bit more direct, borderline telling her what to do.
"I'm gonna go _______, you should come with. It'll be fun."

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(04-07-2014 07:45 PM)SteezeySteve Wrote:  

So guys i'm a 15 year old in my freshman year of highschool. I've liked this girl since December, i know i should have made some moves a long ass time ago, but hey it's whatever. She shows signs of serious interest,but i'm not sure if she's just attentions whoring or is actually attracted to me,because i've had 2 classes with this girl since the first day of school which was a long ass time ago (we're in the 4th qaurter) so she could have easily freindzoned me by now. (i've straight up told her we're not friends when she asked one time though)
I decided that tomorrow i'm going to do say something to her just get over this,and either A.Move on or B. Take this somewhere I know what needs to be done,I don't exactly give a fuck if it gets awkard (we sit next to each other),because i don't value freindship with girl's
but i'm still having trouble just going through with it. I've told myself i was gonna do it before,but i made excuses.Any tips on what to say/do and make sure i don't pussy out?

Dunno if you're still around, but this is wrong:

I decided that tomorrow i'm going to do say something to her just get over this,and either A.Move on or B. Take this somewhere I know what needs to be done,I don't exactly give a fuck if it gets awkard (we sit next to each other),because i don't value freindship with girl's

You don't come out and tell a female friend you're into her, not matter what age. That only works in romantic movies or in rare, rare cases. Nor do you go out of your way to define or un-define friendships. That's what women do with "friend zones" and it's controlling. All people have different places in your life and there is nothing wrong with female friends because they often serve as pipelines to other women (and can help with homework and lend you lunch money -- haha).

Here is what you should do (i.e. what worked for me in high school):

1). Go to the end of year parties with your boys (or other female friends). Seek her out there when the mood is lighter. Talk to her casually and if things are right, that's when you make some sort of move: "Let's get out of here and go for a walk." I don't want to encourage underage drinking, but I will say that if she's had a few, the real her will come out. If she's into you, she'll be very "touchy." If she's not, she'll be pawing some other guy.

2). Go out in groups during the summer, when the mood is lighter and find a way to talk to her a bit more. We used to go to concerts in huge groups and I'd find away to sit near whoever I liked. We played mini golf too -- if you can arrange an outing and are good, showing her some moves can score you points. (Embarrassing admission: Days of Broken Arrows met a girl this way because she was giving him pointers on his awful mini golf game. But the end justifies the means, blah, blah, blah...)

3). Throw your own summer party. Not sure how popular you are or how much the folks go out of town. But I did this and it was a great way to be king of the hill and have girls coming to you for approval. If she feels close to you, she'll hang near you.

4). "Bump into her" accidentally on purpose. If you know she frequents the local library or mall, or wherever, find an excuse to be there. From there, I would go with just talking to her and summoning up a date out of common interests ("Yeah, I wanna see that movie too -- it's playing Friday").

But I can't urge you strongly enough NOT to say things like "Hey, I'm really into you" in the hallway. That only works if you're Zak Efron, on screen, and someone wrote the words for the female response.

[SteezeySteve]

thanks dude, the party was good idea.
i've been thinking about having a bonfire in these woods near my house,but now i think i'm actually gonna go through with it. Will be a super easy way get get in with some slut,and probably work my way up the totem pole.
It would probably be reallly easy to get a good amount of people to come if i just say i have alcohol

[Earth]

My advice to any teenagers on here is to get off internet forums and don't read or do any studying of anything pick up related, and simply get out there and live life. You shouldn't even look at this stuff until you are 21 years old in my opinion. You need more life experience for the most part, anything on a computer is usually mental masturbation.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(04-15-2014 09:14 PM)SteezeySteve Wrote:  

thanks dude, the party was good idea.
i've been thinking about having a bonfire in these woods near my house,but now i think i'm actually gonna go through with it. Will be a super easy way get get in with some slut,and probably work my way up the totem pole.
It would probably be reallly easy to get a good amount of people to come if i just say i have alcohol

OK, my troll alarm bell has gone off. And I'm suggesting to any moderators reading this to keep an eye on this forum member. First, "he" started several threads before really contributing, which is suspicious to me.

But more importantly (this is addresses to the original newbie poster):

1). "getting in with some sluts." We don't throw around the word "sluts" regarding random girls we don't know around here, much less underage ones. That's the equivalent of the Jezebel crowd calling all men "douchenozzles" -- as if that's the default male position.

Belle Knox might have earned the designation "slut," but not the girl in biology who you don't know well. Having this attitude will assure failure with females because your dismissive negativity will shine though (one of my brothers had this attitude and failed big with women). Anyway, that sentence sounds to me like this came from a paranoid female mind.

2). The above post ends with "just say I have alcohol." I specifically said I wasn't encouraging underage drinking. Nor does this forum condone that or anything like that. I said "if she's already had a few." I did NOT say to give her a few. And I said to use her behavior while drinking as a litmus test. On top of that, no one here even suggests getting girls over 21 drunk just to bed them, much less underage women. Again, this seems like you're trying to lead us into some self-fulling prophesy about what imaginary "dudebros" might do.

The other 99 percent of my suggestions were good, clean high school fun. If you're actually a high school guy and not a Jezebel lurker, I suggest you concentrate on those.

[SteezeySteve]

(04-18-2014 06:15 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 09:14 PM)SteezeySteve Wrote:  

thanks dude, the party was good idea.
i've been thinking about having a bonfire in these woods near my house,but now i think i'm actually gonna go through with it. Will be a super easy way get get in with some slut,and probably work my way up the totem pole.
It would probably be reallly easy to get a good amount of people to come if i just say i have alcohol

OK, my troll alarm bell has gone off. And I'm suggesting to any moderators reading this to keep an eye on this forum member. First, "he" started several threads before really contributing, which is suspicious to me.

But more importantly (this is addresses to the original newbie poster):

1). "getting in with some sluts." We don't throw around the word "sluts" regarding random girls we don't know around here, much less underage ones. That's the equivalent of the Jezebel crowd calling all men "douchenozzles" -- as if that's the default male position.

Belle Knox might have earned the designation "slut," but not the girl in biology who you don't know well. Having this attitude will assure failure with females because your dismissive negativity will shine though (one of my brothers had this attitude and failed big with women). Anyway, that sentence sounds to me like this came from a paranoid female mind.

2). The above post ends with "just say I have alcohol." I specifically said I wasn't encouraging underage drinking. Nor does this forum condone that or anything like that. I said "if she's already had a few." I did NOT say to give her a few. And I said to use her behavior while drinking as a litmus test. On top of that, no one here even suggests getting girls over 21 drunk just to bed them, much less underage women. Again, this seems like you're trying to lead us into some self-fulling prophesy about what imaginary "dudebros" might do.

The other 99 percent of my suggestions were good, clean high school fun. If you're actually a high school guy and not a Jezebel lurker, I suggest you concentrate on those.

The word slut wasn't meant to be applied to the girl i was talking about.
I meant that having a bonfire would be fun and i could definently meet new girls and possibly hook up with one even if the bio chick didn't come through or wasn't interested.