[caracal]

http://thestir.cafemom.com/love_sex/1665...tion_drove

So this woman considered her husband to have a sex addiction when:

he wanted to have the same amount of sex as when they first got married
he was faithful to her
he tried not to put upon her too much by telling her that he would make do with less sex than what he actually wanted
her therapist wanted to put her on anti-depressants

Apparently trying to be a good husband is a sin now. Fuck.

Some of the comments are very telling - a divorce is very rarely only one person's fault.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

Decades ago, they had jokes about this: "Q: What's the food that causes women to lose their sex drive? A: Wedding cake!"

These days, instead of calling the women "frigid" and upright we diagnose the men as having sex addiction, a disorder so imaginary it makes ADHD look like skin cancer.

The sad truth is that society never really changes. The so-called sexual revolution made the scoldings of nuns and priests seem dated...but feminists, psychologists, and counselors (gag) stepped right in to take their place. What was once "sin" became "addiction" or a disorder.

These charlatans made the nuns and priests look good by comparison. At least clergy didn't take your money and convince your wife to take your house.

[iknowexactly]

(02-16-2014 02:55 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

The sad truth is that society never really changes. The so-called sexual revolution made the scoldings of nuns and priests seem dated...but feminists, psychologists, and counselors (gag) stepped right in to take their place. What was once "sin" became "addiction" or a disorder.

Not all therapists are "blue pill". I'm not. But I agree there's a lot of feminist harpys on the licensing boards that would love to castrate men if the law were on their side. Luckily it's not.

[Sawyer]

(02-16-2014 02:55 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

The sad truth is that society never really changes. The so-called sexual revolution made the scoldings of nuns and priests seem dated...but feminists, psychologists, and counselors (gag) stepped right in to take their place. What was once "sin" became "addiction" or a disorder.

I'm not sure society hasn't changed. Was this guy getting anal or even blow jobs?



Has there ever been a time in history that porn was so universally available, or sex or sexuality so openly and universally discussed? I think of all the time I think about sex and women and the availability of sex and women and I think back to a time when there was more important shit to think about and I thank God my wife is so sweet because I'm a fucking animal in this society with absolutely no restraints on images or thoughts that restrain my bottomless libido.

Most of the time I'll fuck a hole in the closet door I'm so horny. This guy probably never got doggy and he thought he had it made.

Conclusion: The guy in the original article married a bitch for sure, but without doubt we live in an unnatural, unhealthy and materially different society than our forbears.

[Ziltoid]

Sorry, but as much of a cunt as this bitch is, this guy deserves everything he gets.

Can't get sex from a bitch you're basically legally allowed to rape...? WTF is wrong with you?

Stick your dick in her face.
Wake her up forcibly from sleep and say, "Time for some fuckin', stupid."

Zero excuse.
Omega.

[Sawyer]

(02-16-2014 03:56 AM)Ziltoid Wrote:  

Sorry, but as much of a cunt as this bitch is, this guy deserves everything he gets.

Can't get sex from a bitch you're basically legally allowed to rape...? WTF is wrong with you?

Stick your dick in her face.
Wake her up forcibly from sleep and say, "Time for some fuckin', stupid."

Zero excuse.
Omega.

You ever tried to get a nice breakfast from a girl you just (legally) raped?

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(02-16-2014 03:56 AM)Ziltoid Wrote:  

Sorry, but as much of a cunt as this bitch is, this guy deserves everything he gets.

Can't get sex from a bitch you're basically legally allowed to rape...? WTF is wrong with you?

Stick your dick in her face.
Wake her up forcibly from sleep and say, "Time for some fuckin', stupid."

Zero excuse.
Omega.

Even if it hasn't been thoroughly legislated away through the definition of "marital rape", this seems a bit harsh. I mean, we're not talking Don Draper smoothly manhandling the wife who is taunting him here, but doing something really aggressive. Even if it works, I just can't see it not poisoning the well for the future.

[Vroom]

Sounds like a typical modern marriage.

[Hotwheels]

He needed a mistress.

[pitt]

(02-16-2014 03:56 AM)Ziltoid Wrote:  

Sorry, but as much of a cunt as this bitch is, this guy deserves everything he gets.

Can't get sex from a bitch you're basically legally allowed to rape...? WTF is wrong with you?

Stick your dick in her face.
Wake her up forcibly from sleep and say, "Time for some fuckin', stupid."

Zero excuse.
Omega.

Did you know that is considered rape to force your wife to have sex with you?

However i agree with you, he deserves what he got. Bitch aint giving you regular sex, she needs to get the fuck out.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(02-16-2014 03:41 AM)Sawyer Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 02:55 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

The sad truth is that society never really changes. The so-called sexual revolution made the scoldings of nuns and priests seem dated...but feminists, psychologists, and counselors (gag) stepped right in to take their place. What was once "sin" became "addiction" or a disorder.

I'm not sure society hasn't changed. Was this guy getting anal or even blow jobs?



Has there ever been a time in history that porn was so universally available, or sex or sexuality so openly and universally discussed? I think of all the time I think about sex and women and the availability of sex and women and I think back to a time when there was more important shit to think about and I thank God my wife is so sweet because I'm a fucking animal in this society with absolutely no restraints on images or thoughts that restrain my bottomless libido.

Most of the time I'll fuck a hole in the closet door I'm so horny. This guy probably never got doggy and he thought he had it made.

Conclusion: The guy in the original article married a bitch for sure, but without doubt we live in an unnatural, unhealthy and materially different society than our forbears.

OK, good points. But as I've written before on here, I see porn as being more in the eye of the beholder -- meaning a horny guy will find anything erotic. That said, the culture is pretty damned unnatural. On the upside, for anyone who can't stand fake tits and tats, today's "porn" culture is more scary than sexy. I find a lot of this stuff leaves me cold, but if I were 21 I might like it.

[Statsi]

Woah you are not legally allowed to rape you wife. Essentially when she started moving away from sex he should have left her or started sleeping around. Also don't get married as a rule returns!

[AntiTrace]

(02-16-2014 03:56 AM)Ziltoid Wrote:  

Sorry, but as much of a cunt as this bitch is, this guy deserves everything he gets.

Can't get sex from a bitch you're basically legally allowed to rape...? WTF is wrong with you?

Stick your dick in her face.
Wake her up forcibly from sleep and say, "Time for some fuckin', stupid."

Zero excuse.
Omega.

I'd bet everything I owned that Ziltoid was never married.

[Parlay44]

Women use sex to get what they want and need. Once they have food, shelter and security the motivation to fuck diminishes and they turn into frigid old cunts.

In the good old days marriage wasn't even security. Women still feared their husband would leave them. The fear of shame from family and friend was intense. It kept women in line and wanting to keep their husband happy.

Unfortunately there's no shame in divorce these days. There's also no sense of community beyond Facebook. The greatest female fear is being defriended.

[WanderingSoul]

(02-16-2014 03:56 AM)Ziltoid Wrote:  

Sorry, but as much of a cunt as this bitch is, this guy deserves everything he gets.

Can't get sex from a bitch you're basically legally allowed to rape...? WTF is wrong with you?

Stick your dick in her face.
Wake her up forcibly from sleep and say, "Time for some fuckin', stupid."

Zero excuse.
Omega.

[j r]

(02-16-2014 04:57 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

He needed a mistress.

Exactly. If he hadn't tried to be such a good guy, he'd probably still be married. No good deed...

[rastignac]

"When I met my husband, I couldn't have enough of him. We would have sex constantly, multiple times per day without regard to consequences. He was such a stud and was able to service me 3 times a day.

We got married. We had children. Our home prospered. So of course I did not want to fuck him anymore. He did not understand that our relationship had advanced to a new stage. His touch repulsed me. He was selfish and did not understand and even hit a pillow one day.

He still wanted me 3 times a day and I felt that was sick and creepy.

I started syphoning money from the family funds, so I would have a little on the side to keep me going until I could get the divorce courts to take a proper amount of money from him.

I am happy to say that today my sex addict husband is only allowed to see the kids a few days a month, but I really would prefer to see him in jail for what he did to me. Rapist! The kids hate going to see him in his small apartment on the bad side of town. They say it is depressing there.

I tell him he should go out and find someone new, but I know he could never attract a woman now with his shitty apartment. He has no prospects. What a loser. God, I should have left him a long time ago.

And I have met a wonderful man who is always happy to get it up for me. It is wild. We have sex 3 times a day. He does not make a lot of money, but that is alright. I would never marry him! My alimony and child support checks keep us comfortable.

I am writing this to other women to make sure they don't marry a violent sex addict rapist... sorry I've got to run. My new man wants to fuck."

[runsonmagic]

Red pill room did a blog post on this:
http://theredpillroom.blogspot.com/2014/...uline.html

[Vaun]

(02-16-2014 03:19 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 02:55 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

The sad truth is that society never really changes. The so-called sexual revolution made the scoldings of nuns and priests seem dated...but feminists, psychologists, and counselors (gag) stepped right in to take their place. What was once "sin" became "addiction" or a disorder.

Not all therapists are "blue pill". I'm not. But I agree there's a lot of feminist harpys on the licensing boards that would love to castrate men if the law were on their side. Luckily it's not.

99.999% are.. any resources for referrals for non-blue pill types?

[rastignac]

(02-16-2014 03:19 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 02:55 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

The sad truth is that society never really changes. The so-called sexual revolution made the scoldings of nuns and priests seem dated...but feminists, psychologists, and counselors (gag) stepped right in to take their place. What was once "sin" became "addiction" or a disorder.

Not all therapists are "blue pill". I'm not. But I agree there's a lot of feminist harpys on the licensing boards that would love to castrate men if the law were on their side. Luckily it's not.

Would be nice, but marriage counseling to my experience is basically re-education training for a man.

[Vaun]

she is probably equally to blame, but he lost her somewhere along the way, to the extent she 'lost her sex drive', or at least with the same enthusiasm she once had for him. Saying all wives/LTR's lose their drive is a broad generalization, and one I have never experienced without larger more extenuating circumstances. Then again some men are dumb enough to stay with ice queens.

[Basil Ransom]

(02-16-2014 02:37 AM)caracal Wrote:  

her therapist wanted to put her on anti-depressants

Lol what a kicker - Antidepressants are notorious for suppressing sex drive. Maybe he was hoping to swoop in after the damage was done?

This sounds like the work of... an IRT: Indian Relationship Therapist.

I suppose women lose interest in sex over time with the same man, but all else equal, sex drive is a great overall indicator of well being. The healthier you are, the greater your sex drive. When your body feels it's got the basics covered, it puts more energy into your libido. Guaranteed this woman was unhealthy, un-fit, eating poorly, and over-stressed. Female athletes, by contrast, are known for having monster sex drives .

PS, is anyone else having trouble using quickmeme to write captions? When I click to caption a meme, eg http://www.quickmeme.com/Indian-Race-Troll/ , it asks me to login to facebook, I refuse, and I get redirected to the home page.

[Walter White]

(02-16-2014 03:56 AM)Ziltoid Wrote:  

Wake her up forcibly from sleep and say, "Time for some fuckin', stupid."

I would like to see the empirical studies that demonstrate the efficacy of this approach.

[The Lizard of Oz]

(02-16-2014 03:41 AM)Sawyer Wrote:  

I'm not sure society hasn't changed. Was this guy getting anal or even blow jobs?

Maybe not -- which is too bad for him. This guy also never had access to Google or Amazon and was completely ignorant of a million different things that are today taken for granted by men in an even lower social class.

(02-16-2014 03:41 AM)Sawyer Wrote:  

Has there ever been a time in history that porn was so universally available, or sex or sexuality so openly and universally discussed?

No, of course not. The universal availability of porn is the consequence of inexorable technological progress, specifically the internet. The human being, particularly the male, has an unquenchable thirst for knowledge and information and an equally unquenchable thirst for sexuality and eros. Combine those two and the emergence of internet porn becomes inevitable.

(02-16-2014 03:41 AM)Sawyer Wrote:  

I think of all the time I think about sex and women and the availability of sex and women and I think back to a time when there was more important shit to think about and I thank God my wife is so sweet because I'm a fucking animal in this society with absolutely no restraints on images or thoughts that restrain my bottomless libido.

There is more important shit to think about right now -- and it seems to me you're not suffering from any lack of opportunity to think about it. You spend a fair amount of time writing comments on this forum -- which is great. Owing to the magic of Google you efficiently consume and process an unimaginable bounty of information -- and at the same time you are clearly able to make enough money to support yourself and your wife. And you still have the luxury of "bottomless libido" and pussy available to satisfy it.

What's the problem? What are you so afraid of? Why do you seek restraints on your libido and reasons to feel guilty about it, rather than enjoy it for what it's worth?

(02-16-2014 03:41 AM)Sawyer Wrote:  

Most of the time I'll fuck a hole in the closet door I'm so horny. This guy probably never got doggy and he thought he had it made.

Well -- first of all, I think this dude had a pretty good idea about doggy, that's not exactly a newfangled invention. Maybe he didn't get it from his wife, but he might well have gotten it from a whore (as well as the other things you mention). It's not like these sexual appetites were invented yesterday.

But beyond that, while this dude is a fine specimen of masculinity, there is no need to particularly idealize him in any way. He knew vastly less about the world than you or I, and his mind was necessarily much more limited for that reason. That is not his fault, of course, but it's also nothing to envy. The human being makes progress -- this is something to be celebrated, not feared or bemoaned.

(02-16-2014 03:41 AM)Sawyer Wrote:  

Conclusion: The guy in the original article married a bitch for sure, but without doubt we live in an unnatural, unhealthy and materially different society than our forbears.

We live in a materially different society for sure -- but that's not the same as "unnatural" or "unhealthy". I think these characterizations in themselves reflect an unhealthy sense of guilt, foreboding and fear of change and of the future.

Now don't get me wrong -- I agree that there are many things and trends that are bad about today's society, many of which have to do with the growing power of what we call feminism. But just because some of the negative changes associated with feminism coincided with a period of an unprecedented and ongoing explosion in the availability of efficiently organized and accessible information, and the resulting profound and irreversible progress in how human beings relate to the world, does not mean that they are the same thing. And in fact, as DoBA pointed out in his excellent post above, the ideology of feminism is in many ways allied with humanity's most repressive and fearful instincts -- it brings to bear all the strictures and guilt of an old religion without any of its solace and beauty.

Progress and change are not the problem -- the problem with feminism and its allied ideologies is precisely their fear of change and hatred of progress. The main way in which the 1950s, for example, were a better time than the current one has less to do with the sexual mores of the time -- whose difference from ours is somewhat exaggerated, anyway, -- and more to do with the hopeful and optimistic outlook about the future that was prevalent during that time, and that you can see watching any of the great 50s sci-fi films. The period was good because to a large extent its heart was in the right place -- and the right place is always progress and the future. That is what has been lost to some extent -- particularly among the elites -- and needs to be regained.

[WD-40]

If you are contemplating marriage, these two questions are a simple test of your emotional readiness to put a ring on it:
- Do you know her, yourself, and the way that the two of you relate well enough to be able to make a true long-term commitment? A good rule of thumb is a minimum 2-3 years of smooth sailing in the relationship. I.e. any major fight, disagreement, temporary breakup or period spent in an LDR etc. resets the timer.
- If, at some point during your relationship, she were to completely and permanently cease all sexual and intimate contact with you (but still desire to continue the marriage)- would you still want to remain married to her?

If you cannot answer both questions with an unequivocal and resounding yes, don't marry her.