[Ilovejaneandfinch]

They started a thread about it in the Canada forums, but because of the regulations there, they quickly close threads like these. One user posted this:

Going to take this directly from SNL. The best advice for getting a girlfriend is:

1. Be handsome

2. Be attractive.

3. Don't be unattractive.

The taboo truth is that looks are really the primary thing that matter to women. The best thing you can do for yourself is improving your overall appearance. Useless things like confidence, social skills, blah blah blah, do not matter much at all to women.
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Most responses to that thread seem to also say that looks are the most important to actually pick up women. Since I am born with above average looks and looks is best thing I really got goin for me right now, due to lack of experience, I wondered if this is true, because I had hoped to be successful picking up attractive women in the interior of Peru where I, unlike many do find enough of the best ones there to be attractive.

[JoyStick]

No. But it's definitely important.

[J.J.]

Looks, Status, Money, Game. Those are the primary things. You only need at least 1 of those, pick one.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Absolutely not. "Women only want looks" is a loser's lullaby, same as "women only want money", "women only want fame", "women only want height", "women only want an expensive car" and whatever.

It's always a factor, sure. but it's not even close to being the dominant factor, nor has it ever been. In the past, you could have said that money and social status were something like 75% total attraction, and even then they were not the be-all-end-all. The importance of looks has gone up from some 10% in the past to maybe 25% today, but it's still far from being a critical factor and will never reach much higher than that. It just "helps".

p.s. while your looks will also help you in Peru, they will be far less important there than in USA or Western Europe.

[JJ Roberts]

Nope.

[Ilovejaneandfinch]

(02-01-2014 12:22 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Absolutely not. "Women only want looks" is a loser's lullaby, same as "women only want money", "women only want fame", "women only want height", "women only want an expensive car" and whatever.

It's always a factor, sure. but it's not even close to being the dominant factor, nor has it ever been. In the past, you could have said that money and social status were something like 75% total attraction, and even then they were not the be-all-end-all. The importance of looks has gone up from some 10% in the past to maybe 25% today, but it's still far from being a critical factor and will never reach much higher than that. It just "helps".

p.s. while your looks will also help you in Peru, they will be far less important there than in USA or Western Europe.

I think it will be rather difficult to predict what will be the exact mix of the most important factors to the Inca girls. I have a feeling it will be quite different from the exact mix of important factors here in Toronto. If looks are less, then maybe I am guessing that maybe money will be a larger one there because of being Peru.

(02-01-2014 12:16 PM)J.J. Wrote:  

Looks, Status, Money, Game. Those are the primary things. You only need at least 1 of those, pick one.

That sounds easier than what others have said, even though there seems to be a mix of opinions. I am wondering if this is because of regional variation. People in Toronto seem to say what the OP says based on their Toronto experiences, so I am not sure if the exact answer to the question varies more than anything.

Although one could argue that it depends on the girl I guess. Maybe the variation of responses is due to the sheer spread of differences in experiences between the types of women and also the regions.

On a side note, Toronto is getting nailed by a blizzard right now! lol So no game on the streets today!

[MRDigger]

Not at all. It helps, but some of my friends, are ugly lol but they get 8's with their status and money

[soup]

Looks are a huge attractant. But it's the only thing attracts girls.. game, money etc. also can factor.

[Kieran]

I agree they are a factor, but not nearly the most important factor. If they were, then it wouldn't make sense that I can go out and be firing on all cylinders one night, and struggle to even get a conversation going on another. My looks stay the same (more or less), so there has to be more to it - game and confidence.

[Ilovejaneandfinch]

(02-01-2014 01:31 PM)MRDigger Wrote:  

Not at all. It helps, but some of my friends, are ugly lol but they get 8's with their status and money

That makes sense. After all, there are gold diggers here in our country too. I do remember reading from Peru that some are so into other things like money, that they would rather go after the old man in the wheelchair if he had way more money than me lol

They wouldn't go for the kiss though!

[Parlay44]

What's the difference really? Work out for yourself. Dress nicely for yourself. Read books and travel for yourself. Pursue career and money for yourself. The minute you start doing something for a woman you're playing by her rules. And that's no bueño.

When you're ready to do the family thing and have kids and all that YOU choose a woman that YOU want. Women want to believe they can shop for a husband like they can shop for a purse or shoes. But that's not how it is. All they can shop for is dick. And dick is free.

[jariel]

Looks are #1 when the girl is attractive and DTF.

When girls are in boyfriend-searching mode, then a lot of things are taken into consideration.

I think the goal should be to be as attractive as you can be, then you have to do a lot less work.

A guy who is in shape, makes himself look like curb appeal, and can talk to women compentently and confidently is always going to do well in this game.

[Kish]

[porscheguy]

Looks can gain you an early advantage, but it's up to you to exploit or squander that advantage.

[AntiTrace]

all things being equal:

a good looking guy has an advantage over an ugly guy

a rich guy has an advantage over a poor guy

a tall guy has an advantage over a short guy

etc

game is the equalizer

[RouteBackwards]

AntiTrace's points are spot on.

Thing is, women are so variable. That gruff guy who you think is ugly to most people, might be hot to a select few women and he will be effortless in picking them up. That guy who you assume is really attractive might have a confidence issue or something off about him, and only select women will find him attractive. That guy who's super scrawny but not ugly, might be attractive to a select few group of women, but he's not attractive to other women.

It's all variable, and what works for some guys, won't work for others. Game is just learning how to find the happy medium and build yourself up to be the most qualified you can to all sorts of women in as many circumstances as possible. There is not ONE look that will work for you. You'd be surprised how many traditionally attractive guys are only some women's cup of tea, and not every other womans like you'd assume.

[eastwest]

From my experience, good looking guys get a lot more leeway to fuck up during an approach. If you're good looking, bitch shields are down from the beginning, you being quiet may be seen as mysterious while a less attractive quiet guy may be seen as 'weird'. It doesn't help one bit if you don't know how to escalate and close though.

I have seen some exceptions with guys who had that pretty boy model look, where some girls would do whatever it took to make it happen.

'Good looking' to a woman can be different things, handsome in the masculine way or pretty in the male model way. I think only the higher end of the latter category can get laid by looks alone.

[Parlay44]

(02-01-2014 02:27 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

all things being equal:

a good looking guy has an advantage over an ugly guy

a rich guy has an advantage over a poor guy

a tall guy has an advantage over a short guy

etc

game is the equalizer

The problem with your argument is that looks are subjective. Sure we have the classic 1-10 scale but everyone's idea of what constitutes a 6 or a 10 is different.

[Ilovejaneandfinch]

(02-01-2014 04:10 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(02-01-2014 02:27 PM)AntiTrace Wrote:  

all things being equal:

a good looking guy has an advantage over an ugly guy

a rich guy has an advantage over a poor guy

a tall guy has an advantage over a short guy

etc

game is the equalizer

The problem with your argument is that looks are subjective. Sure we have the classic 1-10 scale but everyone's idea of what constitutes a 6 or a 10 is different.

That's true. I saw women I really liked so much from Cuzco, I gave them high ratings, but the general preference of the gringos there is not so strongly into the dark aboriginal women. But I like Inca girls a lot so it is quite different for me.
I gave her a 10 because I liked her so much with my solid taste for amerindian Peruvians, but I can bet my next paycheque that most users on here won't give her a 10:

[bodmon]

looks aren't the only thing of course, but yes i do think they're the most important thing. looks > game & money, imo.

[theking]

(02-01-2014 01:51 PM)Kieran Wrote:  

I agree they are a factor, but not nearly the most important factor. If they were, then it wouldn't make sense that I can go out and be firing on all cylinders one night, and struggle to even get a conversation going on another. My looks stay the same (more or less), so there has to be more to it - game and confidence.

I think you're over analyzing it. It probably has far more to do with how sexually available the women are. Just like playing basketball, sometimes u get on a hot streak and sometimes you go on cold ones and sometimes u are in the middle.

Having 'game' does not mean that u are some superhuman that can make non-available women fall in love with u it just means the available ones are more likely to choose u. One needs status, money, and yes looks or some combination of these other attributes in order to sway non-available women to your side.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Quote:

I gave her a 10 because I liked her so much with my solid taste for amerindian Peruvians, but I can bet my next paycheque that most users on here won't give her a 10:

No, but no one is going to give her anything below a 7 either. Tiny deviations do not render the scale meaningless.

[pitt]

(02-01-2014 06:17 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Quote:

I gave her a 10 because I liked her so much with my solid taste for amerindian Peruvians, but I can bet my next paycheque that most users on here won't give her a 10:

No, but no one is going to give her anything below a 7 either. Tiny deviations do not render the scale meaningless.

Wrong

I will give her a solid 5..

[jariel]

(02-01-2014 06:31 PM)pitt Wrote:  

Wrong

I will give her a solid 5..

If that, I'm sure she's a nice person.

[Valhalla]

"Looks don't matter" is a male hamster tbh.

It matters.