[brianmark]

(07-24-2012 11:22 PM)Hades Wrote:  

(07-24-2012 05:33 PM)brianmark Wrote:  

I find the book tedious to read! It is exactly the opposite of Bang which is simple and straight forward. Has anyone read this whole book and gotten through all the exercises?

It amazes me how people accept the Mystery Method and anything by Neil Strauss as the Bible! Am I the only one that questions these two guys?

I can't argue with success, and these guys definitely have it. I think that their huge fixation on inner game is just a product of their general narcissism though. The Rules of the Game is basically Strauss's angle, a condensed guide with just the information you need and nothing more. Daily missions and whatnot. I liked reading it.

If you've read "The Game" (I suppose you probably have), you'd see all the unbelievably critical asides that Neil Strauss seems all too happy to elaborate on, about why Mystery has problems, Mystery's daddy issues, why Durden is a psychopath, how Ross Jeffries is a douche, etc. The book fucking opens with Mystery's admittance to a psych ward. I don't care that Strauss is a journalist, indulging in this kind of judgment cannot be healthy, and while it did make a great story it's a shitty testament to the guys who helped you get laid.

Since these guys are (to some degree) social outcasts who learned game late in life (like many), it's probable that they are just bad at socializing with men, which is why they have all these issues in the Project Hollywood House. You would be good to question the way they treat each other but questioning their game is less grounded. As far as game is concerned, these guys are practically wizards. My only criticism of their game is that it's way too indirect and it popularized/feminized the neg.

The book the Game is probably the best selling "pickup" book ever. It is in all the bookstores. It made Neil Strauss rich and made Mystery even more famous. Do you think that Mystery would have had a TV show if it wasn't for that book being so popular? Would Mystery have ever written the Mystery Method. What would Mystery's fate have been without book The Game?

My original question was not about the book The Game, but about Neil's 30 day self improvement book "Rules of the Game". I wanted to know if anyone had gotten through the whole book?

[Spike]

(07-25-2012 04:17 PM)Hades Wrote:  

(07-25-2012 02:37 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

After reading The game my opinion was that Neil Strauss was a real backstabber. He was a social outcast who couldn't get laid if his life depended on it. He was a successful writer but that was it.
I always regarded myself as a loyal person who doesn't stab people in the back even if don't really like them. I could have trashed a few people in my book and opened up on some embarrassing stuff that would make the story a bit more interesting but then I remembered the good times I had with them.
I have no need to get popular by trashing others. Neil Strauss did just that. He trashed people who helped him out and were close to him.

I'm glad The game introduced me to the world of pick up but the book itself was a lot of uninteresting bickering between guys.

Style and especially Mystery have tons of good advice but you have to comb through the nonsense a bit.

True that, I owe a lot to "The Game" for introducing me to pickup too (when I saw it in B&N in 2010), but it took me a year of college sports and bullshitting with people until I broke myself of the "Neil Strauss was wronged by Durden" fanboy attitude and considered the known facts. Neil Strauss is still one of my favorite pickup artists and offers great advice but I probably would not want to be friends with him. He should have just taken the good in with the bad.

I saw your book "Around the World in 80 Girls" and I'm interested because I'm also a pretty broke backpacker-type. I'll probably get a copy since I'm going to Germany in a month. I definitely want to check out the tips and tricks for travelling on the cheap. Did you travel to Dresden or Berlin during your world trip?

Personally I like the style of Mystery more then Styles and have listened for ages to Chris/Lovedrop explain the techniques and especially the mindset/inner game on MP3 while taking buses all over the world.

If you're a broke backpacker type you will like my book for sure. No doubt about it. Berlin was the first place I went on my 3 year trip. I really liked the city. I still have an old post about it on my website. This unedited story didn't make it to the book.
http://www.aroundtheworldin80girls.com/2...-warsaw-2/

[Divorco]

(07-25-2012 01:59 AM)w00t Wrote:  

Mystery is the real deal! He has over 350 lays

Mystery's Statistics
Subject: STATISTICS of the HUNT
Date: September 8th, 1998 12:00:00 AM (EDT)
Group: alt.seduction.fast
Author: Mystery

last 6 years, Ive fucked 56 girls (not all FUCKED, but sexual cum shoots so I call them fucking)

Then the zipped mASF archives show :

Subject: RE: Do I have to be a jerk to use SS?
Post Date: September 16, 1998, 09:00:00 PM (EDT)

... Ive had sex with 9 girls this year ... .


Three years later he started charging for workshops.

[BDawg]

Ac excellent quote is cited in this book.

"A man has only one escape from his old self: to see a different self in the mirror of some woman's eyes."

-Clare Boothe Luce