[Kabal]

This trip starts off tonight.

I have a weekend in Taipei followed by a week in Jakarta, before headed back to the states.

I might just do Luxy x 3 this weekend, unless anyone has better suggestions. I have been to Taipei numerous times, and Luxy has been the most consistent for me in terms of talent and receptiveness to approaches.

I used to roll with the American/European school crowd some in Taipei and took down some girls from that, but I have been weening myself off of that.

[LeightonBlackstock]

Luxy x3 is a good shout. Head and shoulders above the other places. Your time there is short so you're best off maximizing your chances.

But: it's closed on Thursday and Sunday

Solution: Lava, nowhere else. You'll be the only non-Taiwanese guy. Also Thursday is university night

(Get there early, before 11. Last time I went the queue was INSANE. And resist temptation to go to Babe18. Absolutely FULL of western guys, has a bad layout and the quality of girls is significantly lower than Lava)

And go after hours at Roxy if you need to carry on the party. It's open till 7am on the weekend, can have some easy targets. The quality is better nowadays too because of the new venue

[Kabal]

Thanks for the tip--think I'll do Lava, then.

I could have sworn I have been in Luxy in years past on a Thursday, but maybe no-Luxy Thursdays is a recent change.

Unfortunately, it's only 10PM and I'm already absolutely dragging.

I just took a caffeine pill too--might need to make it a double.

[entertainme]

Hey Kabal are you going to be there for NYE? I'm going to be up there on Dec 29th - Jan 5. Lets meet up if your still around.

(12-26-2013 03:18 AM)Kabal Wrote:  

This trip starts off tonight.

I have a weekend in Taipei followed by a week in Jakarta, before headed back to the states.

I might just do Luxy x 3 this weekend, unless anyone has better suggestions. I have been to Taipei numerous times, and Luxy has been the most consistent for me in terms of talent and receptiveness to approaches.

I used to roll with the American/European school crowd some in Taipei and took down some girls from that, but I have been weening myself off of that. I am arguably more of an SEA-looking guy, which I suspect does not work in my favor with the non-Westernized girls in Taiwan. Nonetheless, I do speak conversational Mandarin fluently and did draw an ONS out of Luxy last time I was in Taipei with a very cute non-Westernized chick.

[maxim]

I'll be there too if anyone wants to hang out. I also daygame a lot in Taipei if anyone is up for it.

[Kabal]

0/1.

Lots of large, mixed groups at Lava. Didn't really feel like I was hooking with too many of the girls. Perhaps it's approaching finals time, so the college crowd is less hype.

I forgot how eyebrow-raising this place can be ("damn, so many FOBs out and about in Taiwan," I always think at first)--Taiwanese girls aren't the best-looking or the most sexy, but this place passes the busted dudes test with flying colors. A material amount of doofus-looking guys who would get blown out by Asian 5s in the U.S. walking around with ~7-handle girlfriends.

There was a reasonably cute girl who was stuck with her group, but insisted on me taking her number. Maybe I'll have her come over one of these afternoons.

maxim -- where do you daygame? The greater NEO19 area?

entertainme -- I'll be leaving Taipei the 29th, actually.

[TaipeiHighLife]

(12-27-2013 12:01 AM)Kabal Wrote:  

0/1.

Lots of large, mixed groups at Lava. Didn't really feel like I was hooking with too many of the girls. Perhaps it's approaching finals time, so the college crowd is less hype.

I forgot how eyebrow-raising this place can be ("damn, so many FOBs out and about in Taiwan," I always think at first)--Taiwanese girls aren't the best-looking or the most sexy, but this place passes the busted dudes test with flying colors. A material amount of doofus-looking guys who would get blown out by Asian 5s in the U.S. walking around with ~7-handle girlfriends.

There was a reasonably cute girl who was stuck with her group, but insisted on me taking her number. Maybe I'll have her come over one of these afternoons.

maxim -- where do you daygame? The greater NEO19 area?

entertainme -- I'll be leaving Taipei the 29th, actually.

Lol I was at babe18 last night. Honestly, I prefer babe18 over lava. Yes quality is shit, but so is LAVA with its sausagefest when that music show starts playing with the ABC guy rapping. At least babe18 has a few 6s.

Quality on thursday is shit. Fri you should definately check out luxy if you are white. IMO the best place for white guys to pick up in Taipei for some quality 6's and a few 7's.

[Kabal]

(12-27-2013 01:11 AM)TaipeiHighLife Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 12:01 AM)Kabal Wrote:  

0/1.

Lots of large, mixed groups at Lava. Didn't really feel like I was hooking with too many of the girls. Perhaps it's approaching finals time, so the college crowd is less hype.

I forgot how eyebrow-raising this place can be ("damn, so many FOBs out and about in Taiwan," I always think at first)--Taiwanese girls aren't the best-looking or the most sexy, but this place passes the busted dudes test with flying colors. A material amount of doofus-looking guys who would get blown out by Asian 5s in the U.S. walking around with ~7-handle girlfriends.

There was a reasonably cute girl who was stuck with her group, but insisted on me taking her number. Maybe I'll have her come over one of these afternoons.

maxim -- where do you daygame? The greater NEO19 area?

entertainme -- I'll be leaving Taipei the 29th, actually.

Lol I was at babe18 last night. Honestly, I prefer babe18 over lava. Yes quality is shit, but so is LAVA with its sausagefest when that music show starts playing with the ABC guy rapping. At least babe18 has a few 6s.

Quality on thursday is shit. Fri you should definately check out luxy if you are white. IMO the best place for white guys to pick up in Taipei for some quality 6's and a few 7's.

Yeah, as per my original post Luxy is ex-ante go-to spot. And I'm predominantly EA/SEA.

No 6's for me. I'll be more open-minded toward 6.5's late in the night if I have no better prospects, but definitely no 6.0s for me.

[TaipeiHighLife]

For reference this is a 6:

http://i.imgur.com/458fPrL.png

[LeightonBlackstock]

(12-27-2013 12:01 AM)Kabal Wrote:  

0/1.

Lots of large, mixed groups at Lava. Didn't really feel like I was hooking with too many of the girls. Perhaps it's approaching finals time

Don't worry too much about not pulling last night. Thursday nights aren't good for pulling, a bang would have been commendable.

The only easier option on a Thursday is Ladies night at the Brass Monkey. The scene at that place resembles the lowest level of hell. The quality is atrocious. Very little chance of seeing anything above a 6, and it's just a tiny, shitty dive bar.

Tonight is MUCH better. I recommend getting to Luxy early (perhaps 10.30pm/11pm). Open the sets when the guys are still pre-drinking outside, and then maybe come back to the previously-opened girls later.

Best places to open sets early in the night:

1) The small room (if it's open). The ratio tends to be way better in here for some reason, and it's much quieter. Approach some girls whilst having your first drink at the bar. Then you can open them again later when they're 'pull-able' (Maybe 1am to 2am). I tended to do a lot better on nights when I started in the small room.

2) The corridor on the way to the bathroom. There's a place where there are some raised seats. Usually it's 100% girls here at the start of the night, so you can go and approach them. Also, the girls weirdly tend to be more open at these tables, as they're not in a private booth.

Then make sure you hit the dance floor between 12am to 2am. High chance of a make-out. Plenty of 7's knocking about.

At 3am everything's taken. From here, you can go to Roxy99 (ideal pulling time for Roxy is probably between 2:30 and 3:30am. 2am would be a good time to arrive).

(12-27-2013 12:01 AM)Kabal Wrote:  

this place passes the busted dudes test with flying colors. A material amount of doofus-looking guys who would get blown out by Asian 5s in the U.S. walking around with ~7-handle girlfriends.

Doesn't it just? haha. Yeah I've never understood how there are so many lame Ango guys in Taipei. Maybe it's because most of them are English teachers, as opposed to tourists (or people with a better job :-P)

How many baggy, unfitting shirts with the top two buttons undone did you see?

(12-27-2013 01:11 AM)TaipeiHighLife Wrote:  

Lol I was at babe18 last night. Honestly, I prefer babe18 over lava. Yes quality is shit, but so is LAVA with its sausagefest when that music show starts playing with the ABC guy rapping. At least babe18 has a few 6s.

My ABC friend was OK with Babe18 too. I think Babe18 may be a bit better for ABC's as they can infiltrate the girls, and swoop them away from all the losers with sloppy, drunken game.

And yes I agree, that music show is God damn annoying! The dance floor becomes a COMPLETE sausage-fest, but I found there was always a few 'unmarked' girls sitting down around the outside. The ABC guy hypnotizes all the other guys to stay on the dance floor haha.

Actually, that's one thing I will say about Taipei: The ratios are fucking terrible everywhere. The only one with a bearable ratio is Myst.

It's probably the biggest downside of the place, the upside being that there's little competition and cock-blocking.

What do you think about this TaipeiHighLife?

I remember a conversation with my wingman in my last week in Taipei. He said (something along the lines of) "I can see how you're bored of Taipei man. We have no motivation to go anywhere"

This was at 11pm on a Saturday night. We checked out Luxy, ditched it because of the bad ratio. Then we tried Wax, and ditched that for the same reason. And we had previously vetoed Roxy99 because of the crap ratio the week before. We were stumped as to where to go.

It's a damn good job there's little competition, or it could be really tough.

[Kabal]

Closed out Taipei with Luxy x2.

Aside from a make-out with a very cute 18-year old (possibly younger) Friday, I went completely dry. She claimed I "stole" her first kiss, which I looked askance upon.

Took a day off in Taiwan, then came to Jakarta.

The run of the mill folk here in Jakarta were much darker-skinned and Austronesian-looking than I expected... since most of the girls I've been pipelining are very light-skinned. But that contrast is unsurprising in hindsight for self-selection and Kabal-selection reasons. As distasteful as it may sound, I could feel my power level increasing going from being somewhat dark-skinned in Taipei relative to the locals to pretty fair-skinned in Jakarta.

Met up with a smokeshow half-Indonesian half-Japanese girl yesterday. First time I have came across the "can I bring a friend" attempt. Text exchange while I was in the taxi from the airport:

Her: "So what time we meet?"

Me: "let's do 4:30"

Her: "But you know in jakarta that time is 3 in 1 ...i bring a car so..may i go with my driver and my friend?"

Me: "you only. I don't know what 3 in 1 is"

Her: "3 in 1 is mean only 3 people in 1 a car"
Her: "so i cant go my self"
Her: "How?"

Me: "taxi"

Her: "Hahahaha"
Her: "but ony one friend its ok?"
Her: "Pleaseeee"
Her: ""

Me: "not okay"

Her: "She very friendly"
Her: "Why?"

Me: "I'm interested in meeting you, not your friend"

Her: "Hahahahha"
Her: "Oke"
...
Her: "But [Kabal]...you must thinking again for meet me...i really not so good speak english... im not smart girl"

Me: "I am smart, we should be fine"

We indeed had trouble communicating, despite five conversationally passable languages between us (her: Indonesian, Japanese), just none mutually.

Luckily the physical attraction was there right off the bat. Got the smash after grabbing a round at Immigrant, and buying an adapter for my electronics at the mall.

She remarked that teh gheys in the mall kept checking me out. We went to Red Square later... it was dead and I was clearly with her... and yet a tiny gay dude approached me.

The traffic here is as atrocious as its reputation portends. Also, apparently people react really bewildered when you allude to wanting to walk somewhere.

Alcohol here is incredibly expensive, both in stores and bars. Cost me something like $15-$16 for a small bottle (200mL) of Smirnoff. Drinks are something like twice as expensive as Taipei.

Japanese girl left this morning. I have an Arab-looking chick coming over this afternoon that I skyped with previously... super cute.

[Kabal]

Christ.

Arab-looking girl was packing ~20 pounds she somehow hid on her profile pictures and Skype.

Vomit.

I must say I was impressed by her "weaseling into apartment" game, though.

I wanted to take her to a mall and then ditch her--but she talked to the bellhop at my apartment in Indonesian and the outcome was that there was too much traffic and thus cabs were unavailable. So she she suggested we hang out in my apartment.

We come up, I crush annoyedly a vodka sprite while she drinks water. I demand we walk to the mall, even though it's hot and humid.

We get to the mall, she tried holding my arm and hand the whole time in the mall.

People gawk at us.

I am cringing the whole time.

We get to a bar in the mall, I chug a beer and try and boot her.

She wants to walk me back to my apartment, I relent--mostly because I didn't know the way back.

We get to my apartment building, and she says she has to come up because she had left a pair of shoes in there.

She grabs her shoes and I practically push her out.

Trying to arrange a meet-up with another girl now.

[Kabal]

Girl that came over after I disposed of chubby Arab girl was half-Middle Eastern, half-Indo.

She had porcelain skin, reminiscent of redheads'. Heels, tight dress that showed off her tits. Long story short she was on her period (my fingers hit pad)--would jerk me off but not blow me. Kind of had an annoying personality, too.

It was NYE, so I tried kicking her out so I could go out to a club. Unfortunately, cabs were hugely unavailable, unsurprisingly. Reception agreed to call me when a cab got to the lobby, but it looked grim.

Girl called a friend to pick her up, but I guess it took forever due to Jakartan traffic. So I spent a few awkward hours with a girl I tried kicking out.

She finally left around 11:30PM, which was too late for me to roll out to a club, which I presume would be packed by then and I would miss the 12AM mark by the time I got there, anyway.

So I spent NYE in Jakarta by myself watching fireworks, drinking beers alone. The glamorous life I lead.

Today went better. Girl came over to my apartment lobby--was pleased when I saw her. Not the heart-stopper that the half-Indonesian, half-Japanese girl was, but still quite cute. Delicate face, thin body, rolled up in two inch pumps and a pencil skirt.

Girl at reception smirked when she saw me bring that girl back up. It's only Day 3, there are plenty more where that came from. I may need to start handing out tips, a.k.a hush money.

We watched TV while we grinded out the usual mundane comfort-building conversations that are omnipresent with EA/SEA girls on Day 1s.

Nabbed the plus 1, but unfortunately we spent too much time on rounds of drinking and banging, so I missed going out once again. Now she's sleeping in my bed. She was acting like a child when she was tipsy, which was irritating--including repeatedly telling me she loves me.

She has a corporate sales/marketing gig, so I'm going to be waken up early tomorrow when she leaves, which will suck.

Happy to start off 2014 +1 right off the bat, but I've been in this city for three nights now and have not seen any real nightlife (Red Square was dead when half-Indo / half-Jap girl and I went).

[Kabal]

Thursday
Online pipeline started to dry out since, as always, I was focused on keeping the quality high and thus limiting the quantity; and even then, one chubster managed to slip through (as we saw previously), from whom I abstained. I hate being around girls I'm not attracted to.

However, just in time for weekend activities.

Rolled up to X2, but it was kind of dead the whole night.

Approached a group of five girls, with two decent ones and three grenades. Luckily one of the two decent ones spoke good English and threw herself at me. Slim, cute Chinese-looking face, but had braces. She also said her decent-looking friend (more Chinese + Caucasoid-looking, more curvaceous) finds me fetching although she doesn't speak English much, so I start thinking threesome and spend the next hour or two trying to cultivate that.

However, the first girl backs off and leaves the second girl to me. I'm making out with the second girl and at some point the first girl gets my local number.

Eventually the first girl and two friends leave, and the first girl is okay with the second girl staying there with me.

Now it's us two and one grenade friend, and an older Caucasian guy buying her drinks.

I'm just waiting it out, but a bit later Grenade friend wants to leave but refuses to leave the girl with me.

I'm cockblocked; they both leave. I go home and sleep for a few hours, waking up to text messages and calls from the first and second girls over the course of that span.

Do these broads not sleep?

Set-up a Day2 with the second girl for Saturday night.

Friday
Since X2 was dead Thursday, but I found the venue layout promising, so I went back there Friday to see the place with "real" nightlife.

I was chatting with two stunners by the bar, but it didn't really go anywhere.

I see another smokeshow standing with a guy and a girl who looked like a couple, so I abandon ship for greener pastures.

Tall, long dark hair. Slim but with curves, the best combination.

Flight attendant. Never encountered one in the wild before.

Hooks, and some back and forths between the dancefloor and bar, make-outs, and thumbs up from the bartenders later, we are in my apartment with her face in a pillow.

Great body.

A facial later we exchange names and ages before falling asleep.

She's 18.

Saturday
Have brunch with Friday's flight attendant, then she rolls back to her airline dormitory.

Half-Japanese girl from my first day comes back over. I'm genre savvy from reading RVF, so I clean up the strands of Asian girl hair that have accrued in my apartment.

However, she figures out that I've had girls over from the fact that my trashcans are full with only white tissues (I gave her white tissues to clean up my jizz off herself the first time).

We go out to Grand Indonesia for lunch and drinks. She vacillates between laughing and saying she doesn't care to demanding to know how many girls there have been.

We go back to my apartment for the smash (with much more LMR than our first encounter); it was that time of the month so I lay down a red towel. Afterward, she can sense that I'm tired so she heads home.

Sends me pictures on LINE of us two together and asks that I don't forget about her. Kind of sad. She was actually quite cool in a lot of ways.

Throughout the day I had been negotiating with the girl from Thursday on WhatsApp. She wanted to bring a friend / friends on our Day2 since she doesn't speak English well, but I kept saying no. She calls me 14 times (literally), I ignore all of them since I was with half-Japanese girl.

She finally agrees to come alone, only to send a last minute text message that she wants to hang out with her friends, but she also wants me to join. I ignore.

Back to X2, since the venue was good for me the night before.

Bartenders remember me from last night; one of them comes up to shake my hand.

Poor guy-girl ratio.

I blow out a few times.

Day2 girl calls me 6 times and sends me messages on WhatsApp, which I ignore. However, the night is going poorly for me, so I eventually tell her I'm at X2. I also run into the too-heavy girl from the other day; I raise my beer to her and she waves back from across the bar, but we don't talk.

While waiting for her, I chat up this smokeshow by the bar. Indonesian, but bottle blonde (reviewing my inbox now, it seems that we exchanged messages when I was pipelining before this trip as well--very small world). Just as it's going well, Day2 girl is in the lobby and is calling and texting me. I eject with a number.

She is with the first girl from Thursday, as well as the cockblock, and they try and get me to pay cover for all three of them. I say "no," that I'll only pay for Day2 girl since she came to meet me. If it was just her and the first girl, I probably would have just paid and went for the threesome, but no way am I paying for the cockblock.

First girl leaves and the two girls deliberate some more, and plead with me, but I, of course, stand my ground.

Cockblock finally pays for herself and we go up.

Some guys approach the cockblock (including some IRTs), but, of course, she thinks she's too good for them even though she's a 4.

It's 3:30AM and I think I've seen this play out before, so I pre-emptively say I'm leaving and tell Day2 girl she can leave with me. She says she wants to stay with her friend and begs for me to stay as well, but I say I'm leaving and she can come or not. She says she's staying, so I leave.

I take the elevator down and security downstairs hails a cab for me ("no girl tonight?" one guy asks with a grin), and I get in. Left door is opened by a hooker who asks "with me?" and I of course say "no," and shut the door.

Then, my right door opens, and it's Day2 girl saying she wants to come.

Cab ride home she keeps texting with her friends, particularly with the cockblock, I imagine.

She says she can't leave her friend alone. I say "not my problem."

We get to my apartment and she refuses escalation, and keeps texting. She asks if her friends can come here since she doesn't have a place nearby to stay (they live further away), and once again I say "not my problem."

She continues texting, so I freeze her out by reading random things on my laptop.

Eventually she comes over to me. Things escalate, but she is also on the rag--I grab the red towel from before, but she freaks.

She's blowing me, and eventually asks if we can do it on the red towel.

We do.

Red towel saw a lot of action that day.

Now on WhatsApp today she is asking if I want to be her boyfriend:

Her: "You want to boyfriend me "
Her: "Hehe"

Me: "what?"

Her: "Yes"
Her: "You happy meet me?"
Her: "You want to be my boyfriend"
Her: "Hehe"

Me: "ha, funny"

Her: "Haha"
Her: "I'm seriously"
Her: "You not want"
Her: "You do not want to be my boyfriend??"
Her: "

[Kabal]

Anyone know if anywhere in Jakarta is good on a Sunday for nightlife?

Contemplating Alexis, but that seems to be more like a strip club... and far.

[Brodiaga]

Kabal,

You're doing very well so far in JKT. Better than I did I should say.

If a girl is on the rag, you can try it in the shower. I did it with one of the girls in JKT. You mentioned that you faced the kind of resistance when a chick won't have sex but will blow you and/or do a HJ. For whatever reason it's more common in JKT than anywhere else i've been. I've had some crazy makeouts with hot chicks who would get naked and let me do pretty much everything except "classic sex". I'm still thinking it through and trying to find a way to screen out that kind of girls in the future, though there is no apparent common pattern, such as being more conservative/religious, not drinking, not going to clubs, etc.

Cleaning up after they leave is a problem. It is especially frustrating if they don't put out/let you go all the way but then still leave traces. I usually remove all the hair I can find with napkins and then take out the trash on the way out so that there is no evidence.

Sunday is good for daygame and online game, not so much for nightlife I would say. Check out Jakarta Beat web site for nighlife info. I have a link in my topic about JKT, the post about nightlife.

Dragonfly is supposed to be good on a Wednesday night. Before that, not sure what the best place is. You can check out the clubs in Kemang, but they will probably be half empty.

Keep it up man, but leave some of the girls for me. I'm back in February!

[Brodiaga]

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[startedfromscratch]

@Kabal

Is there a website like siam2nite for Indonesia for nightlife where you can see the types of chicks who go these clubs and party events

What websites did you use for online game?

[Enigma]

(12-30-2013 10:35 PM)Kabal Wrote:  

Me: "let's do 4:30"

Her: "But you know in jakarta that time is 3 in 1 ...i bring a car so..may i go with my driver and my friend?"

Me: "you only. I don't know what 3 in 1 is"

Her: "3 in 1 is mean only 3 people in 1 a car"
Her: "so i cant go my self"
Her: "How?"

I still don't understand wtf 3 in 1 means

Can someone break it down for me?

[Steve9]

(01-05-2014 01:56 PM)Enigma Wrote:  

I still don't understand wtf 3 in 1 means

Can someone break it down for me?

It means that you need to have at least 3 people per car to use certain roads during the rush hour (7am - 10am, 4.30pm - 7pm).

This has created a new business opportunity in Jakarta, become a jockey. During rush hour many people are seen standing on the side of the roads offering their service. Cars with less than 3 people can conveniently pick up these people and use their service for 3-in-1 purpose :

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/...ckeys.html

[Kabal]

started, I PMed you.

Sunday

I just went to BATS.

Sure enough, it was full of hookers.

Literally, ex-gringo chicks, it was hookers.

Nonetheless, I saw a few ex-pats/foreigners, white guys and Asian guys alike, try and run dance floor "game" and go for the make-out on said hookers.

Disgusting.

A handful of the hookers were smoke-shows, though. Two approached me, but I just said "I don't pay for sex," and smirked. Otherwise, I just had some beers and reminisced.

Recap

I liked the general template of Indonesian girls (SEA, with EA/WA/European admixture). Facially, however, they definitely lose out to Vietnamese girls--even Thai girls. Judging from the preponderance of wideclopses in Jakarta, I would have guessed it was Indonesia that got hit with Agent Orange.

Jakarta does have a greater variance than Saigon or Bangkok, though, as a result of greater genetic diversity--uglier average chicks, but more 7.5+'s, albeit not to a substantial degree.

Jakarta's greater nightlife tractability is certainly a plus. Potentially small, however, as mentioned above I ran into two girls I corresponded with during pipelining in the same night.

Jakarta was great--you can find your hotties, game/looks permitting--but I don't think it's some El Dorado vis a vis other SEA cities/countries--and I'm biased in favor of the diversity/mixedness.

Also, Jakarta is way hot, even compared to other SEA cities. I don't think I'd ever get anything done if I lived there.

Jakartan girls were genre savvy in bed and generally knew their way around a cock--quite the juxtaposition against Vietnamese girls. This could be either a feature or a bug, though, depending on your tastes.