[KorbenDallas]

IRS Targeting Round Two

Thug in Chief. Probably a closest homosexual considering how effeminate he acts and his choice of wife. That's probably why he can't stand any criticism and uses the government he runs like a shiny new toy he got for Kwanza to abuse and persecute his "enemies". I knew Obama would be bad, but I just thought he'd be like Bush and then his term would be up and we'd have a new guy who was bad to complain about. I was wrong...This guy is a tyrant who relishes in fucking over Americans.

[Menace]

Why don't conservative groups register as 501( c)(3) groups and avoid this issue?

[mikeymike]

The commentary here is like listening to a chick talk about a guy who just recently turfed her....hes probably gay, hes a bully, throw in hes got a small cock and youve hit the bitchy trifecta. Hes got plenty of failings but stick to the topic, dont go whiny weak insults.

[Icarus]

I think it's a mistake to focus on Obama now, just like it was a mistake to focus on Bush in 2000-2008. Nominal power is not the same as actual power. IMHO, the best comment on the IRS story is the following (written by an actual employee of the USG):

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Susan Collins has been a Senator for 17 years and she apparently has no idea how government works. Worse, she believes that government employees would be just as likely to target progressives as they would be to target conservatives and that they might actually be fired for working to help progressives!

In fairness, I should point out that the article goes on to note that some higher level officials may have known about this problem a couple years, but the officials are still a couple levels down from anyone that’s politically appointed.

Indeed, the most salient facts of the case are: 1) that the IRS was used to target Republican groups and no one directed the IRS employees to do this; 2) the employees’ managers may have known but probably agreed with their decisions and certainly didn’t object; 3) no one that is appointed to the IRS by the President knew or probably could have stopped it – in other words it doesn’t matter who wins any given election, this behavior is “above politics”; and 4) no one is likely to lose their job because of these actions.

Now ask yourself, given these facts, who’s in charge of whom?

I have had the extreme displeasure of hanging out with State Department employees in 2008 and 2009, right before and after Obama was elected, and I was shocked by how openly and comically "progressive" they all were. They would campaign for Obama passionately, which I found weird. If I were a government employee, I would keep my opinions to myself. After all, discretion is a virtue. Or it used to be.

IMHO, what is happening is that when a Democrat is in the White House, the government, which is overwhelmingly Democrat if you don't include the DoD in the picture, becomes ideologically homogeneous. This gives "trigger-happy" government employees the idea that they can engage in witch hunts because Daddy Obama will protect them. It's a somewhat socially acceptable form of pogrom!

This is tribal warfare fought using "legal weaponry" instead of actual weapons. Pause for a second to observe the beauty of it:

1) A power-hungry government employee wants to bleed some Republicans, because they are evil, racist, homophobic, misogynist, anti-abortion subhumans.

2) He looks up in the hierarchy and sees an Obama-appointed official in charge of his department. He feels somewhat safe, since a member of his tribe is in charge, and will likely cover his back in case something goes wrong.

3) The government employee then hijacks the legal system to use the threat of lethal force against his ideological enemies. This is beautiful, since policemen are usually working class and more likely to be Republican than Democrat. In other words, a self-proclaimed "pacifist" "progressive", who is all for gun-control and anti-violence, uses Republicans to attack Republicans, and keeps his hands clean.

This is what "pacifism" is all about. It's about outsourcing violence. Let a bunch of unenlightened brutes do your dirty work, while you marinate in your warm bath of moral superiority.

[PrimeTime32]

Man you guys sound like little bitches. People in power will always abuse it regardless of their "party" or so called political beliefs. Point blank period.

[assman]

(12-13-2013 12:54 PM)PrimeTime32 Wrote:  

People in power will always abuse it regardless of their "party" or so called political beliefs.

Which is why that power should be strictly limited. As it turns out, we have a founding document that does just that. Problem is, many view it as an outdated relic. The view that many in this country share as it relates to the Constitution is somewhat similar to the view that feminists share toward the old patriarchal regime. Both groups are quite willing to throw away much learned wisdom because they think they know better.

[NY Digital]

(12-13-2013 12:54 PM)PrimeTime32 Wrote:  

Man you guys sound like little bitches.

[Mike5055]

First, whether or not you agree with Obama's policies, I very much doubt the man is a homo.

Second, he is hardly a tyrant. Do you have any grasp at all of reality? He has been on par with pretty much every recent president.

And third, all tax exempt groups should thoroughly be investigated by the IRS.

[PrimeTime32]

Yeah because calling Obama a homosexual and crying about him targeting certain tax exempt groups which are usually under IRS scrutiny is setting some new precedent is BS. I don't like Obama due to his constant lying as a main reason. But since day one it seems like Republicans got a hard on for him but I swear most of you guys who are "conservative" go after this guy just because he's black. There is no other reason for the amount of hatred he is shown when other President's have done the exact same things especially George Bush.

(12-13-2013 01:10 PM)NY Digital Wrote:  

(12-13-2013 12:54 PM)PrimeTime32 Wrote:  

Man you guys sound like little bitches.

[j r]

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... like a shiny new toy he got for Kwanza...

That is an interesting comment.

[Grit]

(12-13-2013 01:42 PM)PrimeTime32 Wrote:  

Yeah because calling Obama a homosexual and crying about him targeting certain tax exempt groups which are usually under IRS scrutiny is setting some new precedent is BS. I don't like Obama due to his constant lying as a main reason. But since day one it seems like Republicans got a hard on for him but I swear most of you guys who are "conservative" go after this guy just because he's black. There is no other reason for the amount of hatred he is shown when other President's have done the exact same things especially George Bush.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I gotta admit that there does seem to be a fair bit of hypocrisy in this issue. I was about to say "stop whining" too until I read that comparison with the "League of Women Voters Education Fund". It's a good point:

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What makes this targeting more obvious is that the Obama Treasury rule only applies to 501©(4) groups. The ultra-liberal League of Women Voters Education Fund is registered as a 501©(3)—one of those "charities" supposedly held to the strictest IRS standards on politicking. Yet it brags on its website that it holds "candidate debates and forums," and that its "educational activities" include "understanding candidate views and ballot initiatives."

That said, I don't see what Obama's sexual orientation has to do with it.