[Floss]

I feel like I've been starting too many threads, so here's this for any quick newbie questions people may have.

After you get a girl's number, is it always best to exit the scene immediately? Like, if you're both in the same place and you get her number, is it fine to keep talking for a bit? Or should you always try to get the number at the end of the interaction?

[Virtus]

If you get the number and exit the next guy will erase the approach quick quick least youre very memorable. The pount of a number is so that you have a way to contact soneone when you both have a good reason to get together to do somethingbut for some reason can't right now.. So you need to seed the future plan. If you just go for the number its not woth it's electricity cost in battery power for your phone. She must want to talk to you. So if you need to take the number seed future, take number, keep the fun convo up for a while. For example, tell her youre gonna text her something dirty and then send "something dirty" as the text. But the point is that just keep it flowing a bit and then strike the iron when its still hot.

[daddysanchez]

I disagree w/ calihunter bro. Get that # and slide the fuck outta there. I'm a newbie so I'm not the best at making every single initial female interaction memorable in comparison to other dudes who approach her but I just make sure I get what i came for and get the job done. Talk shit, get the number, leave at the end. Keep it brief. Make it seem as if ur busy and you got places to be, bitches to fuck and money to attain. Whenever I get a new # I text "daddysanchez. the handsome guy u just spoke with." I got that text method from McQueen. They always text back "lol ok" or sum shit.

[Remington]

If I was you, I'd keep the conversation going after getting the number. Build a little more rapport so you will have a better chance of her actually meeting up with you later down the road. Also, there's always a chance to get the bang after getting the number so that's another reason to keep the conversation going. Saves you the time and effort of jumping through the hoops during call/text game.

[Raj]

Nice thread, okay so here's a quickie:

What do you guys do with girls who flirt disrespectful way. By disrespectful flirting, i mean stuff like "omg you're such a dog..idiot". I don't get offended but i don't like it. Also, does it mean she's interested/attracted?

[Texas_Tryhard]

http://www.rooshv.com/call-the-bitch-out

Don't accept rudeness from anyone. If you're still interested in talking to a rude bitch, say something like "Aww cute, a pickup line. Does that one usually work for you?"

[bike0369]

Another quick question:

I met this Chinese chick (well educated, has lived in US, UK and now in SG) girl in a social event. Got her #, and asked her out a week later. Instant acceptance, so we met for dinner and drinks on a Sunday, at end of which I pull her and kiss. We kiss for sometime and then I drop her home. Get a text later that night with good time see you soon etc.

So I invite her to a drama/theater this weekend, and she comes in a plain jeans and tee with a sweater, as against night gowns on earlier meet (and in the social too.) Doesn't let me kiss her throughout the show or the dinner after. But says thanks and see you next week when we depart.

Wondering what's going on? And what should I do (haven't sent or received any text since)?

[Sawyer]

^^ She's trying to infect you with a case of oneitis. DO NOT TAKE THE BAIT!

[bike0369]

Damn right Sawyer, that's my hypothesis 1. Thanks. Hypothesis 2 is that it was that time of month.

I am not taking the bait, but how do I convey this to her? That night, I did comment- wow, you're wearing jeans! Now, I want next date with her, but a. In my terms, and b. Without appearing needy. Next steps are crucial.

[Wahawahwah]

(12-14-2013 11:05 PM)bike0369 Wrote:  

Damn right Sawyer, that's my hypothesis 1. Thanks. Hypothesis 2 is that it was that time of month.

I am not taking the bait, but how do I convey this to her? That night, I did comment- wow, you're wearing jeans! Now, I want next date with her, but a. In my terms, and b. Without appearing needy. Next steps are crucial.

Flake on her.

She's being flippant, trying to wrest away control of the relationship from the get go.

You should've teased her about wearing hippy clothes.

If you haven't decided on a third date, cut off contact and disappear completely for 2 days.

If you have decided the time and place to meet already, flake on her.
text her last minute that something came up and you should reschedule.

Don't backtrack, explain (or give an obviously fake reason, like your sister's dog died), and appear a little distant.

[eradicator]

Floss, if you are talking about day game, i think it is better to end the interaction on a positive note and not turn the conversation longer than it has to be. It is unlikely you are going to pull a chick from a supermarket for an instant date or instant lay.

If it is night game, and you are at a bar and she is drunk and horny, sure you can take her number, but you should be going for the bang that night. You see the difference?

Bike0369, yes you need to neg her hard at this point. Follow sharkie's advice, your next date should either be at your house or end there and you must escalate and try to bang, at least make out with her a lot and maybe get a blowjob.

Raj, Indian girls seem like total bitches. My advice is to leave the country.

[bike0369]

Thanks guys. Disappeared for a few days and then after a few texts, we set a date for Sun. I demo-ed DMV, and we were having drinks and fun. She even apologized for her cold behavior on last date.

After a while though, she starts telling me about her current 'available' status -since March this year, her ex-bf from two years ago - who she's going out on a trip with (he lives in Europe and they're going to an exotic country for a week)! That was very weird, so I said good luck! She replied that she wants to move on, and hope can convince the guy to do so as well. I'm like whatever. Change topic, and back on drinks. We also split check.

As we walk to get taxi, I kiss her but she was very stiff. I ask her why and she says she is not ready. After 5 mins I try again, again she kisses, but is stiff and looks intensely. I ask her to say whatever she has on her mind, and she says 'can we just be friends? Non-romantic'!! I immediately reply, I had fun today, but being a platonic friend is not for me. We take taxi, I get dropped at my place. She goes into a big rant on have a good Xmas, holidays, new year etc etc... And then says see you in new year, perhaps. I kiss her on lips, and say, yes, perhaps.

1. What did I do right; wrong/could have done better?
2. Next steps to get her in bed, if possible
3. Observation: splitting checks doesn't work. So far whenever I have split check, no bangs. All 7 bangs this year have come when I've paid for drinks/food.

[Ensam]

You keep engaging her logical mind - cut it out.

I think part of the reason being aloof and not giving a shit works so well is that it keeps you from asking the girl questions that take her out of the moment and make her think about what's going on. You're not going to out logic her into wanting to make out with you.

[WestIndianArchie]

(12-02-2013 09:42 PM)Floss Wrote:  

I feel like I've been starting too many threads, so here's this for any quick newbie questions people may have.

After you get a girl's number, is it always best to exit the scene immediately? Like, if you're both in the same place and you get her number, is it fine to keep talking for a bit? Or should you always try to get the number at the end of the interaction?

I can't think of a situation where this actually happens.

Night game situation - a player doesn't get the # if he can get more.
Day game situation - see night game.

But let's say it's a wedding or a mixer for work. You see a chick give you the eye, you run over there, run your material, she's into it, but you run into 2 problems

1) you can't isolate her for whatever reasons
2) you both have to stay at the venue until the end of the night

You're afraid that if you linger, she's going to lose the attraction that you built up.

In your mind, she's thinking

"hey this guy that I like, that made me laugh, that got me a little hot, that might turn into something....he's just standing here...being creepy....SECURITY!!!"

^that's not how the game works.

If a chick is digging you, she wants more, not less.

If she's trying to push you away after you get the number, She's using the # to get rid of you, giving you false hope.

Most of the problems you see about stale #'s, and chicks that won't call/text back, is primarily because the player involved didn't push the interaction so as to make player THE person she wants to hear from.

Rest assured, when a dashing young man is clever enough and charming enough to squeeze her 10 digits out of her - She's the person who is winning, not him. She is the valuable person, and this other valuable person has just given her a boost of confidence, better than the schlubs who like all of her pics on FB.

It's not enough to socially validate a girl by getting her to give you her number, you have to make her want you.

But let's assume your fantasy world is real.

How do you handle it?

Could be that you're at a company x-mas dinner, and she's there with a dude she doesn't really like, but she doesn't want to fuck him over and jump in your Kia Optima that night.

So you make nice, she laughs, her hand touches your forearm, you exchange #'s.

That should be the end of that particular interaction.
Excuse yourself, but end the interaction with a "to be continued"

So if you see her later on that night, don't pretend you don't know her. Ping her! Talk to her, interact with her like a normal human being.

And most of all, continue to run game
..with her, and with everyone else.

If she sees you being social, enjoying yourself, running game on other chicks - THAT'S OKAY. She wants a guy that other girls want. She doesn't want some internet loser posting dating questions on a misogynistic message board.

The entire night post phone number acquisition, ping her
- bump into her
- introduce her to other people
- make her introduce you
- make her lip read across the crowd
- speak with your eyes "like get this fat bitch from accounting off of me"
- send her a text, "like you've totally gotta come out here and see this"
- dance with her, and send her back to her brood
- make her take a shot with your and your boys

The main interaction has ended, but if you keep seeing this chick, you have an opportunity to extend that interaction.

By the end of your time together in this shared space, even if she can't get away from her Husband, gaggle of fat harpies, she wants to be with YOU.

This is why you stay in game mode.

And recognize she is doing the same thing to you.

She does it with the clothes, the make up, the jewelry, the diet and exercise, surgery, the hair - you don't stand a chance, because she's working on your primal attraction cues.

There's absolutely nothing logical about wanting to bang a super model, especially one that takes advantage of a trillion dollar industry with thousands of years of expertise.

That's how they work. Going after your reptilian brain.

And Allah help you if you see another dude working on her....

Cats keep thinking that game is about getting between a chick's legs.
It's about getting between her ears, and into her mind.

WIA

[Brodiaga]

(12-05-2013 10:29 AM)Raj Wrote:  

Nice thread, okay so here's a quickie:

What do you guys do with girls who flirt disrespectful way. By disrespectful flirting, i mean stuff like "omg you're such a dog..idiot". I don't get offended but i don't like it. Also, does it mean she's interested/attracted?

I would either immediately cut off all communication or even explicitly tell her to fuck off, depending on my mood and the amount of alcohol I have consumed.

I like getting laid, but I would rather sit at home and jerk off than deal with a bitch who insults me. Besides, there are nice girls out there, no need for me to put up with shit like that.

[LeBeau]

(12-05-2013 04:13 AM)daddysanchez Wrote:  

I disagree w/ calihunter bro. Get that # and slide the fuck outta there. I'm a newbie so I'm not the best at making every single initial female interaction memorable in comparison to other dudes who approach her but I just make sure I get what i came for and get the job done. Talk shit, get the number, leave at the end. Keep it brief. Make it seem as if ur busy and you got places to be, bitches to fuck and money to attain. Whenever I get a new # I text "daddysanchez. the handsome guy u just spoke with." I got that text method from McQueen. They always text back "lol ok" or sum shit.

[BadgerHut]

(12-02-2013 09:42 PM)Floss Wrote:  

I feel like I've been starting too many threads, so here's this for any quick newbie questions people may have.

After you get a girl's number, is it always best to exit the scene immediately? Like, if you're both in the same place and you get her number, is it fine to keep talking for a bit? Or should you always try to get the number at the end of the interaction?

I know some guys do the "get the number in the middle of the conversation" move, but I like to grab the number on the way out the door by telling the girl I have to leave, then asking for the number. This is the reverse process of your question - don't ask for the number and then leave, establish that you are leaving and then ask for the number as a Parthian shot.

This puts her in a scarcity mode, a proven psych technique for compliance - she can't stonewall or shit-test you about giving you the number, because you are leaving right then. You'll get a really good signal of whether she is interested or not. If she demurs, you just shrug and say "ok, suit yourself" and walk away without a care. Don't say "maybe I'll see you around." Just leave, make it clear that she's lost her chance and you are moving forward with the evening.

If you're not in a position to leave on your choice, then absolutely game other girls in the venue. Your social rep travels like a milfoil around the room.

[bike0369]

Thanks mate. What's she conveying or trying to play at in your opinion? What should I do next?

[BadgerHut]

(12-15-2013 01:47 AM)master_thespian Wrote:  

Floss, if you are talking about day game, i think it is better to end the interaction on a positive note and not turn the conversation longer than it has to be. It is unlikely you are going to pull a chick from a supermarket for an instant date or instant lay.

If it is night game, and you are at a bar and she is drunk and horny, sure you can take her number, but you should be going for the bang that night. You see the difference?

Bike0369, yes you need to neg her hard at this point. Follow sharkie's advice, your next date should either be at your house or end there and you must escalate and try to bang, at least make out with her a lot and maybe get a blowjob.

Raj, Indian girls seem like total bitches. My advice is to leave the country.

" Bike0369, yes you need to neg her hard at this point. Follow sharkie's advice, your next date should either be at your house or end there and you must escalate and try to bang, at least make out with her a lot and maybe get a blowjob."

It's funny how a generation-plus ago (up to the 80's I'm told), oral sex was considered a highly intimate thing that only established relationship couples were doing. Now it's a form of foreplay, a "it doesn't count" form of half-sex for women who don't want to get fucked in total that night. Lewinsky blew (ha!) the top off of fellatio as a mainstream sex technique, I don't think you can discount the press from that national event as a factor in the progression of sexual norms.

[BadgerHut]

(12-22-2013 10:42 PM)bike0369 Wrote:  

Thanks guys. Disappeared for a few days and then after a few texts, we set a date for Sun. I demo-ed DMV, and we were having drinks and fun. She even apologized for her cold behavior on last date.

After a while though, she starts telling me about her current 'available' status -since March this year, her ex-bf from two years ago - who she's going out on a trip with (he lives in Europe and they're going to an exotic country for a week)! That was very weird, so I said good luck! She replied that she wants to move on, and hope can convince the guy to do so as well. I'm like whatever. Change topic, and back on drinks. We also split check.

As we walk to get taxi, I kiss her but she was very stiff. I ask her why and she says she is not ready. After 5 mins I try again, again she kisses, but is stiff and looks intensely. I ask her to say whatever she has on her mind, and she says 'can we just be friends? Non-romantic'!! I immediately reply, I had fun today, but being a platonic friend is not for me. We take taxi, I get dropped at my place. She goes into a big rant on have a good Xmas, holidays, new year etc etc... And then says see you in new year, perhaps. I kiss her on lips, and say, yes, perhaps.

1. What did I do right; wrong/could have done better?
2. Next steps to get her in bed, if possible
3. Observation: splitting checks doesn't work. So far whenever I have split check, no bangs. All 7 bangs this year have come when I've paid for drinks/food.

This shit is a hot mess. I'd write it off mentally, send her a restart text (like a non-sequitir preferably) in January and maybe you can get a restart bang. I would consider it dead in your mind though. Chicks who are still socializing with exes are prone to bizarre jealousy/rebound behavior that makes things unnecessarily difficult for you.

[AneroidOcean]

(12-23-2013 12:04 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Cats keep thinking that game is about getting between a chick's legs.
It's about getting between her ears, and into her mind.

Yes, yes, yes!

This ex of hers is in her mind. You are on the outside. You are too available. She didn't deserve another date after that last one.

[-Snake-]

Since this thread is taking all types of questions, I'll post my current one.

Alright so I get this girls number about a year ago through one of my brothers girls (it's her little sister). We talked for a good while but I was young at the time and thought I had something "serious" with my LTR. It was definitely stale until I sent out a mass text about a week ago. We chatted for a bit and whatnot so I asked if she wanted to see a movie or something. We set it tonight because of some shit she was doing. I texted her yesterday thinking that it was Monday and said that "the movies at 7." She said "tomorrow?" I checked and it still was and I said "yeah." Blah blah blah after that. Then I text her at about 5:30 today

Me: "are you ready?"
Her: "OMG I TOTALLY FORGOT *like 8 crying emojis* PLEASE DONT HATE ME"

At first I thought on to the next one, but then I thought what if this bitch actually forgot. Then I kind of settled it with the fact that she knew yesterday.

What to you all think?

[bike0369]

Thanks Badger and Aneroid: yes, I had written her off, and will wait for her to restart- and I'm almost certain she will.

Snake - did she propose another day? If yes, I'll give her one chance. If not, put her on mass restart mode.

[-Snake-]

@bike0369

she did the day we planned it, and moved it to today. I haven't texted her back yet tonight. Should i find out if she will and text her back? fucking texting.

[bike0369]

I'll wait until an hour to the date and text her that you'll be a little late. Either she'll flake, or her hamster will spin that you're delaying.