[turbopg]

@Agastya - sorry for misspelling your username above, I can't edit anymore

[Walderschmidt]

(11-21-2013 03:45 AM)soup Wrote:  

What do you think is worse for the world, Gypsies or feminists?

The feminists with their political correctness make the Gypsy problem worse.

If each country was allowed to deal with Gypsies as they wished (probably kill them) - the Gypsies would either flee or learn to behave.

Wald

[Teedub]

(11-21-2013 10:43 AM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  

(11-21-2013 03:45 AM)soup Wrote:  

What do you think is worse for the world, Gypsies or feminists?

The feminists with their political correctness make the Gypsy problem worse.

If each country was allowed to deal with Gypsies as they wished (probably kill them) - the Gypsies would either flee or learn to behave.

Wald

The removal of women from politics and any high-level decision making would mean a lot of things would get dealt with far, far more quickly.

[WalterBlack]

(11-21-2013 10:49 AM)Teedub Wrote:  

The removal of women from politics and any high-level decision making would mean a lot of things would get dealt with far, far more quickly.

What was your opinion of Marget Thatcher? She was no feminist. I was never a fan of most of her policies but at least you knew where you stood with her.

Margaret Thatcher: UK's first woman PM but not a feminist icon

Quote:

“The battle for women’s rights has been largely won. The days when they were demanded and discussed in strident tones should be gone forever. And I hope they are,” Thatcher said in a lecture on women’s rights in 1982. “I hated those strident tones that you still hear from some women’s libbers.”

Some have defended Thatcher, saying it was not in her interest to promote women in government, but to advance the best people for the job regardless of their sex.

Quote:

Why has there been no British female leader since her? Is it because she outmanned the men and set an impossible example for other women? Was she the housewife who had her hair done every morning and cooked for her husband, or the Iron Lady who went to war? Was she feminine or was her handbag a symbol of that "classic" male trait - aggression?

Shirley Williams, one of the best-known female politicians of her generation in Britain, said Thatcher's femininity was her secret weapon. Others have recalled a woman who enjoyed being the centre of male attention, and flirting with ministers, journalists and aides.

"Always elegant, always formidable, but also capable of personal kindness to her staff and helpers, she understood Tory men. Most of them had been brought up by fearsome women of authority: nannies, matrons, distant and detached mothers, whom one did not challenge or disobey. A woman leader baffled them. They simply did not know how to relate to her, and they were uncomfortable with anything that looked like competition or defiance," Williams told the Guardian.

She also hated the EU and would never have signed up to this open borders shit that's allowing all these people in.

[kosko]

Thatcher is the IDEAL role model for women. She played the game like it was supposed to be played. She understood the game of politics had skillsets a d traits that men simply excel in over women. She adopted those traits and became successful. She never tried to be a "female politician" she simply wanted to be a powerful politician and did the right things to make it happen. She pumped out her kids early in the start if her career and them dived head first into the political waters never to come up for air until she was done.

The Thacther model of kids early, adopting the proper (male) traits for your careers, while sti being feminine is how women can become successfull. It requires hard work and sacrifice though but it's a clear path to the top.

She was still a broad. She still wore heels and dressed up and shit even though she was ugly as hell.

Women need to stop bitching about glass ceelings. Thather never made bushit excuses on being a women in politics. She simply just learned to play the game better and work a bit harder at it. Nobody can say shit to her as she became the second most powerful polcy maker in earth in her days as PM.

You know what other successful women wasn't a bullshit feminist either ? Oprah. She never pubically supported that shit in her days and rarely talked about it and she for 20 years had the most high profile avenue towards women on earth lmao.

Back on track. Yes Femenism is worse because as noted it props up the PC complex that makes dealing with rank issues such as the gypsies a untouchable and taboo.

[cardguy]

England is the sixth most crowded country in the world.

But pro-immigration liberals prefer to give figures for the UK instead (thereby including Scotland - which is mostly countryside).

It is an interesting trick to be on the look out for.

[cardguy]

Margaret Thatcher's record on Europe is mixed.

For the first half of her premiership she was in favour.

For the second half she was dead against it as she worried about the strength of a reunified Germany. And worried about the creation of a European super-state.

Being anti-EU led to her enemies (who were pro-EU) joining together to bring her down (despite her having never lost an election).

The debate about Europe is essentially a left versus right debate but in disguise.

Europe puts forward many policies which are to the left of those that the right support in the UK.

Which is why the right tends to be against the EU - and the left tends to be in favour.

Before the EU started to show their left-wing colours - it was initially sold as as a free-market orientated bloc of trading nations. Which is why - back in the 70's - the left were usually against it. Whilst the right were usually in favour of it.

But even back then - you had the some on the left combining with some on the right (eg Tony Benn and Enoch Powell) to oppose the EU - since they were against the lost of sovereignty.

But these days - the left is in favour of mass immigration. Which means they no longer give a flying fuck about issues of sovereignty. Which is why - today - it is only the right which speaks out on these issues.

[CaliforniaSupreme]

(11-20-2013 03:49 AM)Hades Wrote:  

(11-16-2013 08:32 AM)Teedub Wrote:  

Alongside Somalians

You have many of them in the UK as well? This is a rant (lame since it's about work) and I hope I don't get banned for it.

In Minnesota, I think we have the largest concentration of Somalians outside of Somalia. Not a huge fan of them.

They're very slow workers, understand little english - or maybe they pretend not to understand, and receive too many privileges from the state and their jobs (they are practically unfireable). They get to leave the line at the factory several times every day to go pray - even more so during Ramadan - and everyone else gets to pick up the slack.

They are all weak as kittens and hardly as useful to moving heavy things as middle-aged women. In their home country, I think, they had no culture of manual labor.

Their food is awful, they foul up the break rooms, refrigerators, bathrooms, microwaves, sinks, vending machines, everything. For months we used to find human shit all over the walls and floor of the bathroom until the supervisor walked in on two Somalians one day who thought it was normal and that everybody did it. Now there are signs in the bathroom in four languages instructing people not to shit on the walls. I just don't understand it.

It's probably racist to some degree to apply this to "all" Somalians but I've worked with ten or eleven Somalians so far and no exceptions were found whatsoever. Some were pleasant, some were surly, but all of them sucked at their jobs and had no work ethic whatsoever even if they'd been there for ten years. I don't hate these guys at all (god they're strange) but I never want to be forced to interact with them on a daily basis.
There are a few actual African Americans at work (immigrants from Kenya and South Africa IIRC) and they're great to work with. Not sure what is up with Somalians.

Over time it seems that all the Somalians gravitate towards the same easy shit departments where fifteen or twenty years ago all of the retarded and disabled people at work were sent, usually a job that can't be fucked up like folding up cardboard boxes or taping packages together. This is either by choice or at the behest of the departments they "worked" for.

It's demented that in a place that pays everyone the same hourly wage, I have to make an extra effort to select working companions who have initiative and drive (why, oh why would they ever bother working harder than they must?) but the small differences in temperament and attitude make the job much less gay.

Shitting on the walls? Jesus H. Christ

[Teedub]

(11-21-2013 05:29 PM)cardguy Wrote:  

England is the sixth most crowded country in the world.

But pro-immigration liberals prefer to give figures for the UK instead (thereby including Scotland - which is mostly countryside).

It is an interesting trick to be on the look out for.

Problem is, it isn't just the lefties that want mass immigration. Big business wants it too, albeit for different reasons. There's loads of forces at play and they're all secretly in agreement on it. We're fucked basically, and it would take some pretty scary policies to reverse the damage already done over the last 15 years. Forced repatriation and the like.

I used to be pretty radical, but since learning game, joining the forum and basically losing passion for politics I've just resigned myself to leaving Britain permanently and just watching what transpires. I've even thought that it wouldn't surprise me if one day I renounced citizenship and became something else.

[DjembaDjemba]

This whole thread has me cracking up. There's some funny comments here.

I can relate, I've been to an actual Gipsy Mahala in a certain Eastern European country. It's grimy as fuck, some family had a donkey in their 'apartment'. Shit stains smeared on the walls, ah, good old days. It was old communist housing block that was abandoned after communism fell, and gypsies moved in. I used to check out abandoned buildings when I was a kid, always had curiosity to what went on there.

A little countryside village I hit up to visit family every year is becoming more and more gypsy as time goes on and the locals die off or move to the city. Usually they would move into derelict housing. 15 kids roaming around, dude driving around a busted old beater car, or a donkey cart etc.

The government tried to force them to integrate decades ago but just gave up. They don't really care to. Live and let live.

Many of the gypsies who wanted to get out of the grime have moved west, integrated, and became part of mainstream white society centuries ago. The ones remaining, well...

[InternationPlayboy]

I watched snatch last night. What a great movie. Typical gypsy move by brad Pitt at the end.

[Teedub]

^ Different type of Gypsy. Irish travellers/gypsies are still a nuisance in real life, but nowhere close to the societal hell brought about by the Roma.

[InternationPlayboy]

Got ya. Wasn't aware of the Irish traveling gypsys. Do the also call them "parkies" like in the movie? Or sounds like "pakies".

[bojangles]

(11-22-2013 06:43 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

Got ya. Wasn't aware of the Irish traveling gypsys. Do the also call them "parkies" like in the movie? Or sounds like "pakies".

pikeys! haha I tweeted about Snatch last night as it was on TV here.


I think all the romanian whores that have infiltrated the UK are actually gypsy girls from romania being trafficked.

[roberto]

Is there any connection between the Romany people (used to be itinerant labour up and down Britain in their horse drawn wagons) and the Roma? Folk often said that the true Romany people were honest and hardworking, whilst the Irish travellers were scum of the earth.

I don't know if there's even any Romany left in Britain these days.

[deerhunter]

Irish travelers = tinkers. Had some run-ins with tinkers as a kid and kind of been at war with them since. completely different than the gypsies in this discussion.

[Teedub]

(11-23-2013 03:28 AM)roberto Wrote:  

Is there any connection between the Romany people (used to be itinerant labour up and down Britain in their horse drawn wagons) and the Roma? Folk often said that the true Romany people were honest and hardworking, whilst the Irish travellers were scum of the earth.

I don't know if there's even any Romany left in Britain these days.

Interesting. Roma and Romani gypsies are the same race, yet I've never heard of them settling in England. All the gypsies I've seen here are the white 'pikey' type. Like Brad Pitt in 'Snatch' kinda thing.

[Arg expert]

if you like gypsy movies, there is this one, legendary :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Cat,_White_Cat‎

Ia sam mala Pit Bull - Ter-ri-yieee gypsy wedding :

[Hotwheels]

(11-21-2013 10:43 AM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  

(11-21-2013 03:45 AM)soup Wrote:  

What do you think is worse for the world, Gypsies or feminists?

The feminists with their political correctness make the Gypsy problem worse.

If each country was allowed to deal with Gypsies as they wished (probably kill them) - the Gypsies would either flee or learn to behave.

Wald

So Hitler was right about something?

The Gypsies were on his extermination list.

[Mikev75]

And then there are the Romanichal gypsies in the US. They are somehow related to the ones in the UK and the rest of the Anglo world, but not the ones from Romania. (?)

Some of them go door to door offering home improvement services. While some such services are legit, others are of poor quality or outright scams.

One of my parents' neighbors got burned by shoddy gypsy driveway seal coating. It washed away after the first strong rain.

If they're going to spend hours working on the driveway anyway, why not just do a decent job? Different mentality, I guess.

[Walderschmidt]

(11-26-2013 06:30 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(11-21-2013 10:43 AM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  

(11-21-2013 03:45 AM)soup Wrote:  

What do you think is worse for the world, Gypsies or feminists?

The feminists with their political correctness make the Gypsy problem worse.

If each country was allowed to deal with Gypsies as they wished (probably kill them) - the Gypsies would either flee or learn to behave.

Wald

So Hitler was right about something?

The Gypsies were on his extermination list.

How cute. Godwin's law.

It's because my username is German and I have my flag as in Germany, right?

I know not all Americans are geographically handicapped and as stupid as stereo-typically thought - but you sir do not help their case at all. You've commented not once on this thread a single time except for a thinly veiled attempt to call me a Nazi. You make Americans look bad like those youths who play knockout king make blacks look bad.

With years of being forced to not call the gypsies by their original name, failed attempts at forcing the gypsies to integrate, forced to gives gypsies citizenship, you can imagine that the Romanians among other nationalities are pretty damn pissed at the gypsies. Whereas before they may have only shunned the gypsies, avoided doing business with them, did not associate with them, and deported them, things have changed. Now that the gypsies experience little to nothing int he way of consequences, they act worse. By outlawing the minor forms of resistance to gypsies - a seething hatred has been fostered against them. Enough to foster murderous desires against them.

How would you fix the problem, Captain America? Import some more democracy like Afghanistan and Iraq?

Wald

[MHaes]

(11-26-2013 06:30 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

So Hitler was right about something?

The Gypsies were on his extermination list.

Hitler was right about a lot of things.

He did a lot of medical research, specifically on cancer, that was groundbreaking back when it was published.

He took an economy that was the worst in the developed world, and made it the strongest economy within 4 years - before the Germans even started to spend on war industries.

He broke up a lot of trusts, and tightly regulated a number of industries that were running wild beforehand. He set up a system of international trade based on bartering that cut private banks out of the picture, which helped Germany's economy significantly.

Also, our entire NASA program was based off research the Nazis did. In fact, we owe getting to the moon to them. Many of our scientists in our military/space program post WWII were former Nazi scientists.

[GameTheory]

(11-26-2013 10:15 AM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 06:30 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(11-21-2013 10:43 AM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  

(11-21-2013 03:45 AM)soup Wrote:  

What do you think is worse for the world, Gypsies or feminists?

The feminists with their political correctness make the Gypsy problem worse.

If each country was allowed to deal with Gypsies as they wished (probably kill them) - the Gypsies would either flee or learn to behave.

Wald

So Hitler was right about something?

The Gypsies were on his extermination list.

How cute. Godwin's law.

[Hotwheels]

(11-26-2013 10:15 AM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 06:30 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(11-21-2013 10:43 AM)Walderschmidt Wrote:  

(11-21-2013 03:45 AM)soup Wrote:  

What do you think is worse for the world, Gypsies or feminists?

The feminists with their political correctness make the Gypsy problem worse.

If each country was allowed to deal with Gypsies as they wished (probably kill them) - the Gypsies would either flee or learn to behave.

Wald

So Hitler was right about something?

The Gypsies were on his extermination list.

How cute. Godwin's law.

It's because my username is German and I have my flag as in Germany, right?

I know not all Americans are geographically handicapped and as stupid as stereo-typically thought - but you sir do not help their case at all. You've commented not once on this thread a single time except for a thinly veiled attempt to call me a Nazi. You make Americans look bad like those youths who play knockout king make blacks look bad.

With years of being forced to not call the gypsies by their original name, failed attempts at forcing the gypsies to integrate, forced to gives gypsies citizenship, you can imagine that the Romanians among other nationalities are pretty damn pissed at the gypsies. Whereas before they may have only shunned the gypsies, avoided doing business with them, did not associate with them, and deported them, things have changed. Now that the gypsies experience little to nothing int he way of consequences, they act worse. By outlawing the minor forms of resistance to gypsies - a seething hatred has been fostered against them. Enough to foster murderous desires against them.

How would you fix the problem, Captain America? Import some more democracy like Afghanistan and Iraq?

Wald

Actually, I was simply adding some humor to the subject.

Paid zero attention to your nationality.

As MHaes points out, Hitler wasn't all bad and that was the angle I was coming from.

Yes, I have an odd sense of humor at times.

[Teedub]

I too got the impression Hotwheels was just joking, hence why I liked his comment. Although I also enjoyed Wald's response, so liked it too.

I'm a shit stirrer.