[starmaze]

I met this hot 23 years old in a club some time ago. Met her again last saturday. She asked about my longest relationship I have been to. I replied that I had only short term relationships in the past ( which is true btw). Of course she asked why and I told her that it’s not easy to find someone you can truly connect with etc. She was skeptic how a guy in his 30s didn’t have any long term relationship. She was scanning me if I was a boyfriend material and I think she figured out I was a player. In spite of the fact that we danced and I made a lot of kino that night she went cold later. She was long fuse to start with but now I think this is dead end.



Should I lied to her that I have been in long term relationship and it didn’t work so she ddint percive me as a player ?

[Glock]

I think your mistake was in answering the question about whether you have had any LTRs. It would have been better to ask playfully in response, "How many fiances/girlfriends do you think I've had?" and then change the subject. Or, change the subject back to her.

Roosh writes about this in Bang. He hides from the most common question women ask, i.e., "What is your job?" He asks them to guess, then dodges around, and basically avoids the question in a charming and playful way. I think that's your best tactic if a question probes an area that you know will be a turn off to her.

[Therapsid]

(11-06-2013 08:47 AM)starmaze Wrote:  

I met this hot 23 years old in a club some time ago. Met her again last saturday. She asked about my longest relationship I have been to. I replied that I had only short term relationships in the past ( which is true btw). Of course she asked why and I told her that it’s not easy to find someone you can truly connect with etc. She was skeptic how a guy in his 30s didn’t have any long term relationship. She was scanning me if I was a boyfriend material and I think she figured out I was a player. In spite of the fact that we danced and I made a lot of kino that night she went cold later. She was long fuse to start with but now I think this is dead end.



Should I lied to her that I have been in long term relationship and it didn’t work so she ddint percive me as a player ?

Don't sweat it.

Are you looking for a girlfriend? Do you want to be boyfriend material or a guy who has so many women in his life that you're the one doing the flaking?

You may have done yourself a favor.

She was probably going to put you on the dating treadmill and make you wait x number of dates before getting the bang. Waste of money, waste of time for boring missionary sex a couple weeks later. Work on your game instead.

[Merenguero]

O.P. is the "throwing shit on girl" guy. He should definitely post more often.

[AneroidOcean]

(11-06-2013 08:47 AM)starmaze Wrote:  

I met this hot 23 years old in a club some time ago. Met her again last saturday. She asked about my longest relationship I have been to. I replied that I had only short term relationships in the past ( which is true btw). Of course she asked why and I told her that it’s not easy to find someone you can truly connect with etc. She was skeptic how a guy in his 30s didn’t have any long term relationship. She was scanning me if I was a boyfriend material and I think she figured out I was a player. In spite of the fact that we danced and I made a lot of kino that night she went cold later. She was long fuse to start with but now I think this is dead end.



Should I lied to her that I have been in long term relationship and it didn’t work so she ddint percive me as a player ?

Women want to qualify to you. The mistake you made is not necessarily to answer the question truthfully, but to not turn it around so she is qualifying to you. Answering the question by saying that you've mostly had shorter term relationships and the ones that would've been longer term you had to cut off because the girl was too "x negative quality" and then ask her if she's that kind of girl would allow her to focus not on the answer but on how she can qualify to you.

The other methods suggested regarding non-answers are also good, but the major sticking point for you is that you're allowing her to make you qualify as opposed to the other way around. A much simpler answer would've been "it's complicated."

[Ternarydemonite]

You did. should have reframed like other posters have said, or just plain lied. should say something like "i have had a couple 1 year relations in the past, but the last couple years i have been on to myself". this is assuming she doesnt know your friends or enemies, and that she wont find anything of you via google stalking.
its ok men, you learn from your mistakes

[starmaze]

Thanks guys. Aneroidocean made a good point here. I should use this as an opportunity to make her qualify to me strongly. Eg." I had a couple of long term relationship but i had to cut them off because we didnt connect at deeper level. I expect girl to be good listener but also to be an active listener. To isnpire and stimulate a man. Stimulate not just sexually but also both intelectually and spiritually. Do you think you could stimulate a guy like that?"

In some cases its effective to diqualify yourself to her. Eg. She asks me why i am single. If there is initial interest and attraction I disqualify myslef playfully : "come on, what kind of girl would like me " Its very powerfull when used properly.

[Veloce]

Shit test.

Equate this one with "Have you ever been in love?"

Roosh has a great response to it, I forget where, probably in Bang.

The worst thing you can do to a shit test is give her a literal answer. Imagine that when you're out with a girl at first, much of what she tells/asks you are shit tests, especially how paranoid and jaded girls are these days.

A simple exercise is to imagine simple questions from her:

Her: "What color is the sky?"
Her: "What's 2+2?"
Her: "what has a bill and quacks?"

The answers are not blue, 4, and a duck. The answer is whatever story you weave for her, full of feelings and vagaries.

Her: "What color is the sky?"
You: "Well, it depends. Sometimes when I'm looking at the sky I don't really notice. I can stare at it for hours until I don't notice any difference in colors, and I just see the shapes. It also depends on the weather that day. One time I was flying back from NYC and got caught in a rainstorm and it was interesting to see the flashes of lightning in the cloud formations while I was flying through."

If you can't create a dramatic story based off an elementary question, you're going to have an even harder time with the more complex, "What's your longest relationship?"

A better answer would be, "Well, it was complicated. One of those off and on again things, you know? (Of course she knows, every girl has been through this. Boom, connection) I really cared for the girl and she was my best friend but I'm not sure we were meant to be (Again, every girl has been through this. Boom, connection. Also use of Hollywood romantic script "...meant to be" which is chick-crack) I like having a steady girlfriend, but at this point I just want to make sure I'm with the right person." (mild reassurance that you're not a player while simultaneously prompting her to qualify herself)

See?

[MidniteSpecial]

You should have told her you had a girl friend for 4 years but she moved away for work.

When she asked what she did for work you say: model.

Haha, hampster annihilation for the nation.

[starmaze]

thedude3737 - makes sense. many good advices here. Two key things though are not answer literally and/ or use this shit test to make her qualify.

[Remington]

(11-06-2013 08:47 AM)starmaze Wrote:  

I met this hot 23 years old in a club some time ago. Met her again last saturday. She asked about my longest relationship I have been to. I replied that I had only short term relationships in the past .

It's complicated.

[Nascimento]

(11-08-2013 10:23 AM)Remington Wrote:  

It's complicated.

Literally the best response to any shit-testing question you will ever get asked.

'How old are you?'
'How many girlfriends have you had?'
'How many sex partners?'
'What do you do for work?'
'Are you gay?'
'Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?'

'It's complicated.'

Then just avoid the question. Act as if you don't want to talk about it because it's complicated and you don't want to explain it. Change the frame and own it, ask her something thought provoking. Girls naturally follow a strong frame so if you start asking her striking questions she will forget and move on from that initial shit test question.

[Veloce]

(11-08-2013 10:43 AM)Nascimento Wrote:  

'Are you gay?'

'It's complicated.'

[WestIndianArchie]

The problem here is that you bought into her frame.

She asked you a question, demanded an answer, and whatever answer you're gonna give, she's gonna judge.

Game is not about giving the woman the power to make those kinds of decisions.

"how old are you"
"where do you work"
"why are you single"
"where are your friends"

Some of these questions are innocent, conversation making....and some are not.

But often times the conversation can go horribly wrong by getting into the position where you're constantly answering her questions and trying to "get the right" answer.

The right answer in all of these cases is to

TAKE BACK THE FRAME.

It's not about "clever" answers, but understanding what she's trying to do, and then throwing all that bullshit out.

"Have you been in any long term relationships"

A dude without game
"oh yeah, just broke up with the love of my life..."
"fucking bitch of an ex girlfriend"
"I don't believe in long term relationships"

A dude with game?

"look at you trying to dig up some dirt on me, I see you"
"we were about to be married, until the accident......you know i'm bullshitting your right?"
"That's exactly what Beyonce was asking me last night..."

And that's how you attract a inquisitive bitch in a nutshell.

She lays out a multiple choice quiz, thinking that'd you'd better answer A,B or C and meet her expectations.

You respond with a watermelon, interpretive dance, or a 60 foot painting hanging in the Louvre - some shit that she doesn't expect, but ends up liking.

You will never get any points with a chick by taking her seriously.

WIA