[charmer]

i have two problems....and both are very serious in approaching women.

1.lake of confidence.

2.lake of material.

i get nervous around HB and my breath and heart beat get faster and i try to control it.(i know she knows that iam getting confused in her present).....please tell me how to overcome this and build up confidence boost in myself.

second whenever i talk to any girl...i run out of material....even i read many articles...many openers..but i dont know i cant be talkative no matter how hard i try....i go like "hmm,what should i ask her or tell her now''..

any help would be appreciated.

[X-Factor]

(10-25-2008 01:42 AM)charmer Wrote:  

i have two problems....and both are very serious in approaching women.

1.lake of confidence.

2.lake of material.

i get nervous around HB and my breath and heart beat get faster and i try to control it.(i know she knows that iam getting confused in her present).....please tell me how to overcome this and build up confidence boost in myself.

second whenever i talk to any girl...i run out of material....even i read many articles...many openers..but i dont know i cant be talkative no matter how hard i try....i go like "hmm,what should i ask her or tell her now''..

any help would be appreciated.

Your first mistake is thinking you need canned material. That is PUA guru bullshit. Here is the fundamental flaw with using canned material: you just cannot predict every conceivable permutation in the conversation to make it feasible. Openers are okay if you're just getting into the game. But to have a list of material is just pathetic, weak, and shows a serious lack of game. What are you going to do, break out a notepad and think, "Well, it looks like I already used The Cube. Maybe I should try reading her palm! WWWDD (what would D'Angelo do)?"

Weak.

Why do you lack confidence? Is it because you have had very little interaction with women? Growth is painful. You have to fail in order to succeed. Do not be afraid of "failing" with women. It is how you get better. And trying the magic pill of canned material is impeding your growth as a man and an individual.

You need to get your house in order first. Women smell bullshit a mile away, and with VH1 now airing their pickup show, all the losers who use opinion openers and all that other bullshit are going to fail in the long run. The wheat will be separated from the chaff.

Do yourself a favor and get your own house in order first. Give yourself a solid foundation to work from and you will see success much sooner than if you continue to rely on crutches such as canned material.

Look for situational openers. Make a comment on something she is wearing. It will seem much more genuine and in turn will create comfort. Making a woman feel comfortable is paramount in seduction. Without her feeling comfort and rapport, it's a lost cause.

Want to know how you gain confidence?
-Go to the gym. Now! Do it today! I CANNOT stress this enough.
-Eat healthy
-Study/work very hard
-Find a job that you really and truly enjoy. Find your life's calling.
-Clean yourself up. Personal hygiene is key. When you look good, you feel good. And when you feel good, you cannot help but make others around you feel good too.
-Talk to every woman you can. The old bag checking out your groceries, the lady behind you in line at the post office, the young blonde that serves you your latte every day. You should be interacting with women every chance you get.

Women are not scary. Next time you get nervous around a hot babe, just picture her groaning out a big ol' turd. Besides, most of the hot women I've met are the most insecure women I've known.

This is the mentality you need to adopt:

THE PROCESS IS THE PRIZE.

Ciao.

[Prodigy]

(10-25-2008 11:02 AM)X-Factor Wrote:  

(10-25-2008 01:42 AM)charmer Wrote:  

i have two problems....and both are very serious in approaching women.

1.lake of confidence.

2.lake of material.

i get nervous around HB and my breath and heart beat get faster and i try to control it.(i know she knows that iam getting confused in her present).....please tell me how to overcome this and build up confidence boost in myself.

second whenever i talk to any girl...i run out of material....even i read many articles...many openers..but i dont know i cant be talkative no matter how hard i try....i go like "hmm,what should i ask her or tell her now''..

any help would be appreciated.

Your first mistake is thinking you need canned material. That is PUA guru bullshit. Here is the fundamental flaw with using canned material: you just cannot predict every conceivable permutation in the conversation to make it feasible. Openers are okay if you're just getting into the game. But to have a list of material is just pathetic, weak, and shows a serious lack of game. What are you going to do, break out a notepad and think, "Well, it looks like I already used The Cube. Maybe I should try reading her palm! WWWDD (what would D'Angelo do)?"

Weak.

Why do you lack confidence? Is it because you have had very little interaction with women? Growth is painful. You have to fail in order to succeed. Do not be afraid of "failing" with women. It is how you get better. And trying the magic pill of canned material is impeding your growth as a man and an individual.

You need to get your house in order first. Women smell bullshit a mile away, and with VH1 now airing their pickup show, all the losers who use opinion openers and all that other bullshit are going to fail in the long run. The wheat will be separated from the chaff.

Do yourself a favor and get your own house in order first. Give yourself a solid foundation to work from and you will see success much sooner than if you continue to rely on crutches such as canned material.

Look for situational openers. Make a comment on something she is wearing. It will seem much more genuine and in turn will create comfort. Making a woman feel comfortable is paramount in seduction. Without her feeling comfort and rapport, it's a lost cause.

Want to know how you gain confidence?
-Go to the gym. Now! Do it today! I CANNOT stress this enough.
-Eat healthy
-Study/work very hard
-Find a job that you really and truly enjoy. Find your life's calling.
-Clean yourself up. Personal hygiene is key. When you look good, you feel good. And when you feel good, you cannot help but make others around you feel good too.
-Talk to every woman you can. The old bag checking out your groceries, the lady behind you in line at the post office, the young blonde that serves you your latte every day. You should be interacting with women every chance you get.

Women are not scary. Next time you get nervous around a hot babe, just picture her groaning out a big ol' turd. Besides, most of the hot women I've met are the most insecure women I've known.

This is the mentality you need to adopt:

THE PROCESS IS THE PRIZE.

Ciao.

Dude that was an awesome post. I definitely agree with you on the VH1 show. I do use a lot of canned material. What kind of pick up theory do you have? Or game plan when you approach a woman if you don't have canned material? I know Mystery does the whole A1-C3 thing....

[charmer]

(10-25-2008 11:02 AM)X-Factor Wrote:  

(10-25-2008 01:42 AM)charmer Wrote:  

i have two problems....and both are very serious in approaching women.

1.lake of confidence.

2.lake of material.

i get nervous around HB and my breath and heart beat get faster and i try to control it.(i know she knows that iam getting confused in her present).....please tell me how to overcome this and build up confidence boost in myself.

second whenever i talk to any girl...i run out of material....even i read many articles...many openers..but i dont know i cant be talkative no matter how hard i try....i go like "hmm,what should i ask her or tell her now''..

any help would be appreciated.

Your first mistake is thinking you need canned material. That is PUA guru bullshit. Here is the fundamental flaw with using canned material: you just cannot predict every conceivable permutation in the conversation to make it feasible. Openers are okay if you're just getting into the game. But to have a list of material is just pathetic, weak, and shows a serious lack of game. What are you going to do, break out a notepad and think, "Well, it looks like I already used The Cube. Maybe I should try reading her palm! WWWDD (what would D'Angelo do)?"

Weak.

Why do you lack confidence? Is it because you have had very little interaction with women? Growth is painful. You have to fail in order to succeed. Do not be afraid of "failing" with women. It is how you get better. And trying the magic pill of canned material is impeding your growth as a man and an individual.

You need to get your house in order first. Women smell bullshit a mile away, and with VH1 now airing their pickup show, all the losers who use opinion openers and all that other bullshit are going to fail in the long run. The wheat will be separated from the chaff.

Do yourself a favor and get your own house in order first. Give yourself a solid foundation to work from and you will see success much sooner than if you continue to rely on crutches such as canned material.

Look for situational openers. Make a comment on something she is wearing. It will seem much more genuine and in turn will create comfort. Making a woman feel comfortable is paramount in seduction. Without her feeling comfort and rapport, it's a lost cause.

Want to know how you gain confidence?
-Go to the gym. Now! Do it today! I CANNOT stress this enough.
-Eat healthy
-Study/work very hard
-Find a job that you really and truly enjoy. Find your life's calling.
-Clean yourself up. Personal hygiene is key. When you look good, you feel good. And when you feel good, you cannot help but make others around you feel good too.
-Talk to every woman you can. The old bag checking out your groceries, the lady behind you in line at the post office, the young blonde that serves you your latte every day. You should be interacting with women every chance you get.

Women are not scary. Next time you get nervous around a hot babe, just picture her groaning out a big ol' turd. Besides, most of the hot women I've met are the most insecure women I've known.

This is the mentality you need to adopt:

THE PROCESS IS THE PRIZE.

Ciao.

great post.and great advice,Thank you really.

i can bet you are a genuine player,how much ladies you have dated yet?

[Harry811]

Hi Everyone'
My name is Harry. I have this book that tells you to approach the best looking ones first at a nite club, and not the plain ones, because a beautiful sexy woman will never sleep with a man who was shun by a plain looking woman. The beautiful sex woman will think that there something wrong with the man if he can't make it with a woman not so beautiful.

I don't worry about what I will say to a beautiful woman. Confidence is what counts, not what you say. I know for a fact that woman go to nite clubs to find a man to have sex with. The alpha male has no fear of expressing his sexual feelings to a woman. That's why he gets laid and a nice man doesn't. I like being an alpha male, but a respectful one.

Harry

[Roosh]

Harry: you're assuming that the beautiful women notices when you get rejected by the average women. Probably not the case. I'd go for the hot ones first from an efficiently standpoint more than anything.

[rdj]

(10-25-2008 11:02 AM)X-Factor Wrote:  

-Talk to every woman you can. The old bag checking out your groceries, the lady behind you in line at the post office, the young blonde that serves you your latte every day. You should be interacting with women every chance you get.

Excellent piece of advice and a good starting point, never thought of that. Striking up conversations with a random person can be tough but doing things like this every day and it will soon become second nature when you're out at night.

[Prodigy]

When I first go to a party, I like to talk to the girls that I'm not as attracted to b4 I talk to the hotter girls. First, it warms you up for conversations, and gets you in a talkative mood. 2) I don't give a fuck if I get rejected b/c she is not attractive. 3) I uaually get my confidence up more b/c I dont get turned down.

[speakeasy]

(10-27-2008 03:04 PM)Prodigy Wrote:  

When I first go to a party, I like to talk to the girls that I'm not as attracted to b4 I talk to the hotter girls. First, it warms you up for conversations, and gets you in a talkative mood. 2) I don't give a fuck if I get rejected b/c she is not attractive. 3) I uaually get my confidence up more b/c I dont get turned down.

I know it's a good thing to strike up random conversations but I often feel unmotivated to do it due to lack of interest. I just don't have a lot of interest in having a conversation with the "old bag" ringing up my groceries beyond a simple "hi, how's it going?"

[Prodigy]

Ya that's true. I definitely need to work on it more. But I have found that I am more comfortable speaking with hot girls b/c of all the practice on random ugly women...

[JoeBmore]

(10-25-2008 11:02 AM)X-Factor Wrote:  

(10-25-2008 01:42 AM)charmer Wrote:  

i have two problems....and both are very serious in approaching women.

1.lake of confidence.

2.lake of material.

i get nervous around HB and my breath and heart beat get faster and i try to control it.(i know she knows that iam getting confused in her present).....please tell me how to overcome this and build up confidence boost in myself.

second whenever i talk to any girl...i run out of material....even i read many articles...many openers..but i dont know i cant be talkative no matter how hard i try....i go like "hmm,what should i ask her or tell her now''..

any help would be appreciated.

Your first mistake is thinking you need canned material. That is PUA guru bullshit. Here is the fundamental flaw with using canned material: you just cannot predict every conceivable permutation in the conversation to make it feasible. Openers are okay if you're just getting into the game. But to have a list of material is just pathetic, weak, and shows a serious lack of game. What are you going to do, break out a notepad and think, "Well, it looks like I already used The Cube. Maybe I should try reading her palm! WWWDD (what would D'Angelo do)?"

Weak.

Why do you lack confidence? Is it because you have had very little interaction with women? Growth is painful. You have to fail in order to succeed. Do not be afraid of "failing" with women. It is how you get better. And trying the magic pill of canned material is impeding your growth as a man and an individual.

You need to get your house in order first. Women smell bullshit a mile away, and with VH1 now airing their pickup show, all the losers who use opinion openers and all that other bullshit are going to fail in the long run. The wheat will be separated from the chaff.

Do yourself a favor and get your own house in order first. Give yourself a solid foundation to work from and you will see success much sooner than if you continue to rely on crutches such as canned material.

Look for situational openers. Make a comment on something she is wearing. It will seem much more genuine and in turn will create comfort. Making a woman feel comfortable is paramount in seduction. Without her feeling comfort and rapport, it's a lost cause.

Want to know how you gain confidence?
-Go to the gym. Now! Do it today! I CANNOT stress this enough.
-Eat healthy
-Study/work very hard
-Find a job that you really and truly enjoy. Find your life's calling.
-Clean yourself up. Personal hygiene is key. When you look good, you feel good. And when you feel good, you cannot help but make others around you feel good too.
-Talk to every woman you can. The old bag checking out your groceries, the lady behind you in line at the post office, the young blonde that serves you your latte every day. You should be interacting with women every chance you get.

Women are not scary. Next time you get nervous around a hot babe, just picture her groaning out a big ol' turd. Besides, most of the hot women I've met are the most insecure women I've known.

This is the mentality you need to adopt:

THE PROCESS IS THE PRIZE.

Ciao.

That was a good man-slapping post.