[Screwston]

This guy flew from China to Austin and stabbed his ex at UT with a fork

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...d-him.html

[Agent 47]

Gotta love the tenacity this guy has. "I'll fuk u up in person"

[Mage]

Game could have saved her life.

[BortimusPrime]

Guess that's why the Chinese stick with chopsticks.

[j r]

Here's the question: if you saw a dude stabbing a chick in the face with a fork, what would you do? Would you try to stop him? Call the police? Or just mind your business?

[Mike5055]

If he was using a fork, I'd call the police then beat the shit out of the guy. You'd probably get free drinks and pull using the hero card.

[Parlay44]

If she was an 8+ I might be her white knight.

[Bad Hussar]

(10-10-2013 07:21 AM)j r Wrote:  

Here's the question: if you saw a dude stabbing a chick in the face with a fork, what would you do? Would you try to stop him? Call the police? Or just mind your business?

I have a "No physical intervention" policy when it comes to domestic disputes. i.e. when both parties obviously know each other. This may be convenient on my part since I'm a small guy and would likely get my ass kicked more often than not. But I don't think I would intervene even if I where bigger. The thing with domestic disputes is that they are domestic. As everyone always says: There's no guarantee that if you take up the mantle of the White Knight and start attacking the guy, that the girl will then join her boyfriend in attacking you. That this could very easily happen shouldn't surprise anyone here.

Admittedly a knife (or similar) attack is different from just a beating since it can cause more serious permanent damage, or death, quickly. I suppose intervention would then be a good idea, but then you'd really have to have a firearm so that you don't put yourself at too much risk when confronting.

After some time involved with a community where domestic violence is endemic I've become even more hard-hearted about this than I was before. If a woman doesn't like being beaten she must leave the man who is beating her. It's really that simple. The fact that she doesn't leave doesn't mean that she is powerless and at the mercy of the "patriarchy". It means that she likes the abuse, or perhaps likes the fact she is in a relationship more than she dislikes the beating. Also, the beatings are very often set up by the women themselves who goad the men into it by a predictable dance starting early evening and involving escalating measures of alcohol and unbelievable streams of verbal abuse and profanity. It's all set up from the start.

[Cattle Rustler]

I'm not dying for no woman (excluding mother and sisters). Even if I save her, what am I going to get out of it?

Also, some women don't leave their abusive relationship since they want their kids to grow in a two-parent home. It happens a lot in hispanic families. In fact, even in non-abusive relationships where hubby and wife don't like each other they stay together just to raise their kids together.

[MHaes]

I would definitely step in if it was a situation like this.

Some small Asian guy isn't going to be able to do shit to me. I mean look at his picture.

I like getting in fights. It would be a one-in-a-million chance to do some serious violence and get called a hero afterwards.

[eradicator]

I'd definitely call the cops, It's not worth getting stabbed over.

[Beyond Borders]

(10-10-2013 11:48 AM)Bad Hussar Wrote:  

If a woman doesn't like being beaten she must leave the man who is beating her. It's really that simple. The fact that she doesn't leave doesn't mean that she is powerless and at the mercy of the "patriarchy". It means that she likes the abuse, or perhaps likes the fact she is in a relationship more than she dislikes the beating. Also, the beatings are very often set up by the women themselves who goad the men into it by a predictable dance starting early evening and involving escalating measures of alcohol and unbelievable streams of verbal abuse and profanity. It's all set up from the start.

This woman was on the opposite side of the world from the guy, so as far as we can tell, she did leave him. Now, we couldn't know that on sight, but it does bring up the point that many guys do go after women who have already left the relationship.

In fact, this is when men lose their shit. For many men, the natural instinct to things we can't control is violence. So if a guy who isn't in control of his emotions see his woman leaving him as the end of the world, he reacts to the powerlessness by going apeshit and doing crazy, irrational shit.

Some women do stay in bad situations beyond the point of sanity, but there are definitely guys who will go to the ends of the Earth to destroy women who try to leave after realizing how mental they are. Even in American society, there are women who live in hiding out of fear of exes - some of these women end up dead. I read forums and books a lot about how to hide or be invisible, for whatever reason, and these stories are not uncommon.

I've witnessed them myself being raised by a single mom. My father threatened to murder my mom and us when she left him and showed up at her wedding reception years later to attack her new man. Later he went to prison for the rape and attempted murder of a girlfriend who I believe tried to leave him. A couple other incidents come to mind, some with boyfriends of hers and some with boyfriends of her friends. When you grow up around women, especially in the lower classes, you see the dumb shit they do but you also see the bullshit they have to put up with.

In the area I grew up in, a woman tried to leave her husband, who had abused her a few times in the past, and his reaction was to shoot her and their two young daughters in the face. Executed all of them. He has been on the run now for half a year now and I believe is on the most wanted list (we have mutual friends and used to drink together down at the local pub). Doesn't sound to me like she brought it upon herself for not leaving - she'd even been in contact with the local woman's shelter for help and had made it clear she was afraid for her life but the police did nothing about it.

So to assume all of these cases must be the fault of the woman is a little out there, in my honest opinion. Just because they have an obviously personal connection of some sort does not mean she hasn't tried to extricate herself from the situation. As far as you know, a man attacking a woman on the street with a fork could very well have just caught up with a bitch who is trying her damndest to get away from him and is facing the consequences of doing so.

Yeah, it sucks that sometimes the tables can get turned on you in situations like that, but chances are if I see a guy attack a woman with a fork, I'm going to slam him on his head and deliver some kicks to his grill, especially if I'm confident I can take him. Will I have the balls to in every situation, or if he has a knife instead of a fork? Maybe not - I'm only human - but I'm got a decent amount of strength and have been in more fights than I can count. I've always risen to this type of occasion in the past.

And I can surely fend for myself better than she can.

Yes, there are risks in such behavior, but the world comes with risk - that's life. If we want to consider ourselves men, we can't hide behind technology and the comfort of civilized society all the time - because the uglier side of human nature is still all around us and will rear it's ugly head sometimes. You have to be ready for it and act accordingly.

And at the end of the day, you have to be able to sleep with yourself. If your morals are okay with watching a woman beside you get stabbed and doing nothing, well, sleep tight. Not me though.

[Veloce]

There are varying degrees of intervention.

You see a couple in an argument and the guy slaps his girl? Shit, she probably deserved it. 100% would never get involved.

Guy comes up and seemingly randomly starts stabbing a girl in a face? Doesn't matter if it's a girl, guy, old, young, if I can see they're not capable of defending themselves and I don't see any mortal threat to myself, at the very least I would try to defuse the situation. Grab the guy and just pin him down while authorities are reached. Which is exactly what happened here.

[The Lizard of Oz]

It was just a test simulation of a Chinese ICBM launch at the US. The damage assessment seems about right, one forked slore.

[WanderingSoul]

(10-10-2013 06:47 AM)Mage Wrote:  

Game could have saved her life.

She didn't die, and no amount of game gets this guy any pussy.

[Cattle Rustler]

I wonder what he used to work as and how he managed to get a visa....he doesn't look very bright to me.

[JackDavey]

I'd rather be part of a civilisation in which people do not stand idly by and watch others get stabbed.

[JimNortonFan]

Who says he even had a visa?

He may not look bright at first but look closer. He has Asperger's/autism written all over his face. He's the guy staring off into space breathing through his mouth. Guarantee he's a STEM guy. Thinks the trash stasche turns the ladies on. Either that or he doesn't know how it got there and doesn't know how to make it go away. Showers at least thrice a month. Good at video games, not Game.

[Cattle Rustler]

Yeah, the article said he studied something STEM (bio i think) with the girl.....he guessed what classes she took and stalked her until he finally found her.

Coming in by boat takes a long time.....

[ralphi]

I wouldn't get involved. Stabbings involve blood and if he turned the bloody fork on you, you'd be sweating out HIV and Hep B/C tests for the next six months.

This is just one way being a white knight in that situation could go wrong.

You guys really need to think hard about the consequences of white knighting. They are real and they are bad. I'm not saying you aren't jacked and couldn't take a fork stabbing but it's basically the same thing as a need sticking. Maybe even worse.

I'd call the cops on my way out of the vicinity. I will not fall victim to the law of unintended consequences. You shouldn't have to be the battman in real life just to get laid. Way to expensive in terms of risk.

[WanderingSoul]

(10-11-2013 03:36 AM)ralphi Wrote:  

I wouldn't get involved. Stabbings involve blood and if he turned the bloody fork on you, you'd be sweating out HIV and Hep B/C tests for the next six months.

This is just one way being a white knight in that situation could go wrong.

You guys really need to think hard about the consequences of white knighting. They are real and they are bad. I'm not saying you aren't jacked and couldn't take a fork stabbing but it's basically the same thing as a need sticking. Maybe even worse.

I'd call the cops on my way out of the vicinity. I will not fall victim to the law of unintended consequences. You shouldn't have to be the battman in real life just to get laid. Way to expensive in terms of risk.

*cough*pussy*cough*

It's a fork being wielded by a 100lb Asian guy you queens. Grow some fucking balls. Dude isn't Jason Voorhees hacking her to pieces with a machete.

[ralphi]

(10-11-2013 03:43 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(10-11-2013 03:36 AM)ralphi Wrote:  

I wouldn't get involved. Stabbings involve blood and if he turned the bloody fork on you, you'd be sweating out HIV and Hep B/C tests for the next six months.

This is just one way being a white knight in that situation could go wrong.

You guys really need to think hard about the consequences of white knighting. They are real and they are bad. I'm not saying you aren't jacked and couldn't take a fork stabbing but it's basically the same thing as a need sticking. Maybe even worse.

I'd call the cops on my way out of the vicinity. I will not fall victim to the law of unintended consequences. You shouldn't have to be the battman in real life just to get laid. Way to expensive in terms of risk.

*cough*pussy*cough*

It's a fork being wielded by a 100lb Asian guy you queens. Grow some fucking balls. Dude isn't Jason Voorhees hacking her to pieces with a machete.

Fair enough,

Another scenario would be that you disrupt this guys fork stabbing spree, hurt him in the process and he sues you.

Or the girl sues you.

Even if the lawsuit is bs you'll still be out time and money for a lawyer.

Or the police mistake you as an accomplice/criminal because they don't know what's going on and the police taze the crap out of both of you. Or maybe even shoot you. I don't want to risk being tazed or shot for some chick I don't care about.

When you get involved in other peoples problems you are taking on other peoples responsibilities. Cops get paid to do this and are better protected by the law and unions. No one is going to be there to help you.

I mean if you enjoy taking risks like this then I guess that's cool. I just have bigger plans for myself then white knight fork blocker.

[JimNortonFan]

I doubt anyone in that situation thinks about it. You either react or don't. After it's over you think about it. Did I watch, did I back away, did I move slowly towards it hoping someone else would handle it or did I handle it? The feeling of handling it is great, the feelings of everything else make you feel like less of a man.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

RioNomad Wrote:

It's a fork being wielded by a 100lb Asian guy you queens. Grow some fucking balls. Dude isn't Jason Voorhees hacking her to pieces with a machete.

[WanderingSoul]

(10-11-2013 05:00 AM)ralphi Wrote:  

Fair enough,

Another scenario would be that you disrupt this guys fork stabbing spree, hurt him in the process and he sues you.

Or the girl sues you.

Even if the lawsuit is bs you'll still be out time and money for a lawyer.

Or the police mistake you as an accomplice/criminal because they don't know what's going on and the police taze the crap out of both of you. Or maybe even shoot you. I don't want to risk being tazed or shot for some chick I don't care about.

When you get involved in other peoples problems you are taking on other peoples responsibilities. Cops get paid to do this and are better protected by the law and unions. No one is going to be there to help you.

I mean if you enjoy taking risks like this then I guess that's cool. I just have bigger plans for myself then white knight fork blocker.

Saving a little Chinese girl from being stabbed in the face with a fork isn't white knighting. Is saving a girl who is being raped in a dark alley also white knighting? Of course not.

Some shit you just have to do as a decent human being and as a man with a pair of balls. I would have a hard time sleeping at night if I let either of those situations go without helping the girl.

As far as me accidentally hurting the guy and getting sued, I wouldn't accidentally hurt him, I would be whoopin that ass intentionally.