[PUA_Rachacha]

^ Sorry mate, only know US doctors. If you can't find anyone, I suggest sourcing online. Guys here can probably guide you through the tests you need to take pre and post TRT.

[Good Goy]

Could any of you lucky bastards based in Central or South America recommend a country/city I could fly into and have a little mini-vacation while also picking up a decently long term supply of Test E / HCG / anastrazole from a somewhat reputable location? I'm already a year+ long patient at a well-known US clinic but am growing tired of grossly overpaying AND jumping through their hoops for every single refill.

I know it doesn't mean much from a random lurker but sincerely, thank you - this thread is a goldmine.

[PUA_Rachacha]

(11-26-2018 10:05 PM)Good Goy Wrote:  

Could any of you lucky bastards based in Central or South America recommend a country/city I could fly into and have a little mini-vacation while also picking up a decently long term supply of Test E / HCG / anastrazole from a somewhat reputable location? I'm already a year+ long patient at a well-known US clinic but am growing tired of grossly overpaying AND jumping through their hoops for every single refill.

I know it doesn't mean much from a random lurker but sincerely, thank you - this thread is a goldmine.

Have you tried to get 10ml of 200mg/ml of the cypionate? That's what I did. Saved me the headache of going back to the doc every month.

[Good Goy]

(11-27-2018 10:14 AM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 10:05 PM)Good Goy Wrote:  

Could any of you lucky bastards based in Central or South America recommend a country/city I could fly into and have a little mini-vacation while also picking up a decently long term supply of Test E / HCG / anastrazole from a somewhat reputable location? I'm already a year+ long patient at a well-known US clinic but am growing tired of grossly overpaying AND jumping through their hoops for every single refill.

I know it doesn't mean much from a random lurker but sincerely, thank you - this thread is a goldmine.

Have you tried to get 10ml of 200mg/ml of the cypionate? That's what I did. Saved me the headache of going back to the doc every month.

Unfortunately they keep a tight grip on the maximum quantity they will give me in any one order - also they require x amount of blood work + consultations per six months and won't release anything if every single regulation isn't complied with. As of right now I'm due to go about 2-3 weeks without any medication because of a mix up, which is why I 100% plan on flying out somewhere on Friday morning to pick up everything I need. Somewhere in Colombia is looking like a good bet.

[TravelingBodybuilder]

(11-26-2018 10:05 PM)Good Goy Wrote:  

Could any of you lucky bastards based in Central or South America recommend a country/city I could fly into and have a little mini-vacation while also picking up a decently long term supply of Test E / HCG / anastrazole from a somewhat reputable location? I'm already a year+ long patient at a well-known US clinic but am growing tired of grossly overpaying AND jumping through their hoops for every single refill.

I know it doesn't mean much from a random lurker but sincerely, thank you - this thread is a goldmine.

colombia testosterone E was $17 USD for 1 ml. And the syringe it comes in was like a 20 G . I thought they were crazy? It wasnt a big deal as i just injected into the back of an insulin syringe and injected myself with it.

And Ecuador it is $4 usd for 1 ml of 250 mg /ml.

peru it was $30 for 1 ml of 250 mg /ml test e.

but why are you doing this? You can get plenty of reputable Test e in the usa on the black market.(you can even ship 1 ml and have it tested to see if it is dosed right to companies like janoshik available) Or order overseas for pharma test and have it shipped to you.

trying to get a script for test e is a waste of time and money. just get it on the black market. It is the same thing. Sometimes better than Pharma test e depending on what carrying oil they use. Even when flying into countries where its illegal just put it in insulin syringes in an insulin box. they wont check or test it...

[Good Goy]

(11-27-2018 06:46 PM)TravelingBodybuilder Wrote:  

(11-26-2018 10:05 PM)Good Goy Wrote:  

Could any of you lucky bastards based in Central or South America recommend a country/city I could fly into and have a little mini-vacation while also picking up a decently long term supply of Test E / HCG / anastrazole from a somewhat reputable location? I'm already a year+ long patient at a well-known US clinic but am growing tired of grossly overpaying AND jumping through their hoops for every single refill.

I know it doesn't mean much from a random lurker but sincerely, thank you - this thread is a goldmine.

colombia testosterone E was $17 USD for 1 ml. And the syringe it comes in was like a 20 G . I thought they were crazy? It wasnt a big deal as i just injected into the back of an insulin syringe and injected myself with it.

And Ecuador it is $4 usd for 1 ml of 250 mg /ml.

peru it was $30 for 1 ml of 250 mg /ml test e.

but why are you doing this? You can get plenty of reputable Test e in the usa on the black market.(you can even ship 1 ml and have it tested to see if it is dosed right to companies like janoshik available) Or order overseas for pharma test and have it shipped to you.

trying to get a script for test e is a waste of time and money. just get it on the black market. It is the same thing. Sometimes better than Pharma test e depending on what carrying oil they use. Even when flying into countries where its illegal just put it in insulin syringes in an insulin box. they wont check or test it...

I'm doing this because a) i'll be completely out of gear wednesday and would like the certainty of flying somewhere and buying exactly what I need and getting it instantly right there on the spot b) because i want to spend a month sobering up and banging out latinas somewhere in central/south america

your post is definitely encouraging though, seems like you had no issues getting what you needed pretty much anywhere! where did you seek out sources in places like colombia/peru, or was eveything just widely available without script in most pharmacies? thanks man

[scotian]

There’s currently a shortage of testosterone in Colombia now, apparently Bayer stopped shipping it there over some problems with the government. Better to get it in Ecuador

[CaptainChardonnay]

My blood is getting a little thick so Ill be going to donate some today.

[bruce_almighty]

I saw here that some guys cycle their TRT. What's the benefit of cycling vs consistency?
If we can inject TRT without cycling, why do we have to cycle with steroids? is it because there are larger amounts of stuff in the blood and it can be more toxic?

I've also read that cutting the use of TRT may result in the same effects as cutting from steroids, although more mild, depending on the duration and quantities.

So basically TRT is steroids just in lower doses which makes it a little safer?

[edlefou]

(11-27-2018 07:43 PM)scotian Wrote:  

There’s currently a shortage of testosterone in Colombia now, apparently Bayer stopped shipping it there over some problems with the government. Better to get it in Ecuador

They have Nebido, which is injected once every 12 weeks apparently, for about 230,000 pesos.

[Bienvenuto]

delete.

[Cr33pin]

If anyone knows of a place I can get legit testosterone ethanate in America please let me know. I'm currently in Florida if that matters.

I've been of TRT for almost two years now as my Doc retired and the new few I saw didn't want to give me a prescription for test to self inject.... It's been a pretty lousy 2 years off TRT ha.

[kaotic]

(11-28-2018 01:14 PM)bruce_almighty Wrote:  

I saw here that some guys cycle their TRT. What's the benefit of cycling vs consistency?
If we can inject TRT without cycling, why do we have to cycle with steroids? is it because there are larger amounts of stuff in the blood and it can be more toxic?

I've also read that cutting the use of TRT may result in the same effects as cutting from steroids, although more mild, depending on the duration and quantities.

So basically TRT is steroids just in lower doses which makes it a little safer?

TRT is literally just Test I wouldn't even consider it a "Steroid"

"Steroids" is usually a Test as a base stacked with say Deca/Winnie/Tren etc depending on your goals.

Jumping off both styles of usage will definitely yield the same results:

-Test production crashes
-Gyno (bitch tits)
-Sex Drive crashes
-Estrogen levels skyrocket
-You become emotional and act like a bitch
-You become depressed
-You might not be motivated
-You get "brain fog" and aren't as sharp

THIS CAN ALL BE MOSTLY AVOIDED WITH A PROPER POST CYCLE THERAPY (PCT)

When you're on TRT it's a lifelong commitment especially for those who have low Test levels.

Some guys jump off TRT for different reasons, Captain Chardonnay and I had some back channel talks and one example is blood thickness, some guys get red skin or itchy.

But from what I know most guys on TRT, stay on TRT.


Steroids can only be used in cycles because the stack can be toxic after 3-5 months (depending on dosage).

There's 2 ways guys do steroids:

-Cycle - Stack Test and whatever else - run that for a couple of months, jump off it, follow a Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) using HCG, Clomid, Nolva, etc. (wait a few months then jump back on rinse and repeat)

-Blast and Cruise - You're on TRT but increase dosage of Test when stacking with a steroid.

Ex: Your TRT is 150mg/week, but you decide it's bulking season, and "blast" to Test 400mg/week + Deca 200mg/week (this a light steroid cycle IMHO) after a few months and wonderful gains you draw back down your test to the 150mg/week levels and "cruise" (rinse and repeat)

Now I've heard of some guys running HCG while on being on Test to preserve fertility.



Personally, I just finished a Test + NPP bulking cycle, and just finished one month of PCT for it.

I floated around the high 600's I believe when I was initially checked before getting on any cycle a year and a half ago.

The first time I did a cycle it was only Test (just to see how I would react).

I fucked up the PCT by using HCG that was already pre mixed (that's a no no and you should be mixing it on your own) it basically meant the HCG was expired and useless, so I had a week of acting like a bitch and a shitty sex drive and couldn't concentrate.

This last cycle I finished with a PCT used Nolva and natural supp test boosters, also took my fishoil, zma, multi vitamin religiously.

I felt completely fine, slightly caught some feels for some chick, seeing all these GF signs but moved on quick.

I feel pretty good coming off the cycle, kept most my gains (lost a bit of mass), lost water retention weight.

Cycling on and off to get gainz is 2 or 3 steps forward and 1 step back.


***Guys feel free to correct me if anything I said was wrong.

[Cr33pin]

(12-12-2018 11:49 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

If anyone knows of a place I can get legit testosterone ethanate in America please let me know. I'm currently in Florida if that matters.

I've been of TRT for almost two years now as my Doc retired and the new few I saw didn't want to give me a prescription for test to self inject.... It's been a pretty lousy 2 years off TRT ha.

[bruce_almighty]

Great answer Kaotic. Thanks.

[CaptainChardonnay]

Just to add onto Kaotic's post, I've been taking 200mg of Test C once a week for a couple years now as a TRT regiment however I'm going to be lowering that down to 50mg a week because even at 200mg a week, my test lab results showed me to be at around 2700 which is above the normal human range by about 2.5x. 150mg a week might be too high for a lot of guys so it really depends on your bloodwork. I should have gotten blood work done a lot sooner to calibrate.

[jbkunt2]

I have an appointment at a TRT clinic in 90 mins time. Will post here the results/what's said.

I'm nearly 32. I've done two tests for T levels before and scored 310 and 560 total.

I don't have striking symptoms but I have a relatively low sex drive compared to most and struggle to put on muscle/have low mass. I also wake up several times a night - unsure if that is remotely related though.

[scotian]

^Bro before your blood test did you jerk off three times, drink ten beers, smoke a pack of darts and eat a super sized big mac combo with ten nuggets?

[Jozi]

Have thought about blasting and cruising for a long time. Only thing I'm hesitant about are the fertility issues. HCG is supposedly not good for you long term and can shut down your natural LH production, along with potentially becoming ineffective. If that happens, it means you're pretty much screwed.

For you guys who are either blasting and cruising, or just doing cycles with PCTs every once in a while, have you thought and planned for your fertility? How do you manage it?

[PUA_Rachacha]

(12-18-2018 04:34 PM)Jozi Wrote:  

Have thought about blasting and cruising for a long time. Only thing I'm hesitant about are the fertility issues. HCG is supposedly not good for you long term and can shut down your natural LH production, along with potentially becoming ineffective. If that happens, it means you're pretty much screwed.

For you guys who are either blasting and cruising, or just doing cycles with PCTs every once in a while, have you thought and planned for your fertility? How do you manage it?

Show me the evidence that hcg doesn't work long term.

[CaptainChardonnay]

I would like to see also.

[firat113]

(12-18-2018 04:52 PM)PUA_Rachacha Wrote:  

(12-18-2018 04:34 PM)Jozi Wrote:  

Have thought about blasting and cruising for a long time. Only thing I'm hesitant about are the fertility issues. HCG is supposedly not good for you long term and can shut down your natural LH production, along with potentially becoming ineffective. If that happens, it means you're pretty much screwed.

For you guys who are either blasting and cruising or just doing cycles with PCTs every once in a while, have you thought and planned for your fertility? How do you manage it?

Show me the evidence that hcg doesn't work long term.

Hcg ONLY shuts your natural LH production down if it interferes with it during recovery (PCT). And when it's taken to "kickstart" at high dosages, hence why it's not recommended to do so, and the recommendation goes to do 500-1000 iu a week. 2x250 iu/week throughout the cycle/cruise as a rule of thumb.

If you're worried about fertility are you really ready for blasting and cruising? It's a big commitment of pinning every week. You might never recover even with hcg. Unlikely, but keep in mind most people doing the blast and cruise lifestyle are not doing hcg and do not plan on going off anytime soon. It's potentially a lifelong decision. If you're ready to go on TRT for the rest of your life a few years down the line, go for it. If not i would strongly consider cycling and PCT.

(12-16-2018 05:40 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  

Just to add onto Kaotic's post, I've been taking 200mg of Test C once a week for a couple years now as a TRT regiment however I'm going to be lowering that down to 50mg a week because even at 200mg a week, my test lab results showed me to be at around 2700 which is above the normal human range by about 2.5x. 150mg a week might be too high for a lot of guys so it really depends on your bloodwork. I should have gotten blood work done a lot sooner to calibrate.

That's high numbers for "only" 200mg a week. 2700 ng/dl is crazy. How did you manage estrogen on such high numbers? Which AI did your doctor prescribe and how much?

[CaptainChardonnay]

I've done a couple blast before and know how it works, it was 200mg a week. Estrogen was fine, within normal range however I was getting acne on my face and back which is the reason I went to go get blood work. My skin was completely clear before.

I'm a perfectly healthy guy in my late 20s who lifts hard 6 days a week so I think 200mg having that much of an effect was just because I am young and healthy. That and also because my test is high quality stuff.

I have arimidex on hand but I didn't find it necessary. Actually if I had taken arimidex while within normal range it could have actually lowered my estrogen too much.

[Tresdus]

(12-18-2018 04:34 PM)Jozi Wrote:  

Have thought about blasting and cruising for a long time. Only thing I'm hesitant about are the fertility issues. HCG is supposedly not good for you long term and can shut down your natural LH production, along with potentially becoming ineffective. If that happens, it means you're pretty much screwed.

For you guys who are either blasting and cruising, or just doing cycles with PCTs every once in a while, have you thought and planned for your fertility? How do you manage it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqyjnrcA064

[Space Shuttle Door Gunner]

Just coming off my first cycle. The initial dosages I felt were too low so I adjusted them to 500mg Test E + 900mg EQ per week for 16 weeks. I went up 17 lbs, my BF% remained the same (15%). I am about to start PCT with Nolva 20mg ED for 6 weeks. I was wondering what do you guys think about starting my cut right now? Technically my natural testosterone levels will be kickstarting so I don't see why I should be bulking as protein synthesis would not be optimal. I could maintain but that would be a waste of time for the 6 weeks my PCT will take (after which I will get bloods). My plan is to be at a 500 cal deficit and up the protein to 200g per day. Thoughts on cutting while on PCT? I will continue my cut after PCT too. Won't be blasting again till around late August. I just want to be lean and mean by Spring Break and into Summer!