[presidentcarter]

Get the Audi. That Audi is going to better built and more aesthetically pleasing than even a new Honda. Not to mention it's probably more fun to drive and carries more "respect" in both normal the material people world and the 'car guy' world...if that even means anything to you.

[JimNortonFan]

I would say get a Civic if it's just 4 wheels to you but I heard the 2013 models aren't up to Honda's standard.

[Justice Beaver]

The Audi for sure.

[kenny_powers]

How much do you drive? More than 15k miles per year?

How concerned are you with cost of ownership? You said you have been driving a Honda for years right?

Having a honda you pretty much do a few oil changes and changes tires at a very low cost. Trust me, with a European sedan the cost of keeping the car goes way up. I had a brand new 3 series sport package. After 20,000 miles tires wore out. to buy the factory tires is $2,400. I have another Euro brand now and fuck my checking account when I need something done. You going to keep the Audi 6-7 years, plan on dropping much much more than you ever will on the Honda.

How much you gonna pay to replace those fancy Audi lights? Tires? Electronic malfunction?

If you by the new Honda you should have a sick warranty.

If you don't drive a lot and are not concerned with all the expenses than Audi all the way. Looks better and is more fun to drive than the Honda.

[Aliblahba]

$32K could by a killer classic muscle car with plenty of money left over for maintenance.

   



   

These can be picked up for $25K, maybe less from private sellers. Leaves $8K in the bank for repairs. You can do all the preventative and scheduled mnt on older cars.

[mikeymike]

Ive been driving Audis for a while now, great cars, but there is no thing as a minor problem with an audi, I rarely have had issues with any of the audis, I keep up with regular car maintenance and theyve been largely headache free, but when it goes wrong its 1500+

[DVY]

get a japanese or korean car. The hyundai has a sedan that looks dope and from my frineds have almost zero problems- forget the name. I have a lexus and its no problems.

Audis, BMWs and Mercedes have frequent issues. Stick to Asians. =).

[el mechanico]

If you like being a dick on the road the the Benz is for you. The meltdowns I cause other drivers are 5 times more severe in my Benz. I can just hear them some asshole in a Mercedes this and that plus mucho love from the chicas.

[Gunner]

Mech, what is your opinion on the BMW Z4?

[el mechanico]

(09-30-2013 11:34 AM)bars Wrote:  

Mech, what is your opinion on the BMW Z4?

For meltdowns or reliability? They're alright on both fronts. I like the Z3M better though.

[Menace]

Asians are like 7's. Germans are like 8's and 9s. I mean in terms of car LTR's, not performance, etc.

[chyamor]

Ive decided on the 2014 honda, mainly because my startup side business will require driving from Chicago to Milwaukee and Chicago to indi once or twice a month. If that business takes off then my weekend ride can be a Audi S5 or S7

[chyamor]

Actually can someone tell me a website that gives figures between buying a hybrid vs non hybrid
how much you will need to drive to make up extra cost of hybrid?

I am rereading some of the post on this thread.

[DVY]

almost never worth the price difference, unless you are driving a taxi or something. Battery pack is quite heavy and the mpg isn't as good as they say. Plus if the battery blows out, its a bitch to change and expensive. Go for the reg. one.

[Drazen]

Yeah, for me I'd only get a hybrid or electric car if people can easily tell its a hybrid/electric car, since its basically a status symbol, especially in your more "granola yuppie" communities like Santa Monica. Its just more maintenance and something that can go wrong which equals more money.

[ralphi]

Get the Audi especially if it is a CPO.

[muc]

I wouldn't spend that much cash on a car. I can recommend a BMW though. Audis are good, too, but they are too middle-management / white-collar / plain boring for my taste. (I'm in Germany btw.) Get something cool.

And if you want to buy a Honda, buy one of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2w3yTmywb0

Seriously. Honda cars are for old people.

[bacon]

at 13:25 he makes an audi comment but the whole video is gold

[Cattle Rustler]

"if your dad bought you the car....they will go after your daddy"

This guy knows his shit. One time this cougar was asking about my dad to the point I shouted "do you want to meet him so you can fuck him?!!".....old cougar was speechless.

[Excelsior]

(10-07-2013 12:30 PM)bacon Wrote:  

at 13:25 he makes an audi comment but the whole video is gold

I agree with his broader argument about young guys avoiding expensive cars, but I will call shenanigans on some of his justifications underlying that argument.

I must start with this one:

"The girls can tell if its a 3 year old car"

No, they usually cannot.

When he makes this claim, he goes into an anecdote to justify it in which he describes the time he rented a brand new mustang gt and brought it to a model convention, only to find that he had the shittiest car there (lots of maseratis, lambos, etc). He uses this as evidence to back his point about girls being able to tell the age of a car, but this doesn't actually help his argument at all. What it shows us is that girls can distinguish a 2013 Ford Mustang from a European exotic/sports car like a Lotus or Porsche. It doesn't tell us anything about their ability to distinguish model years.

He doesn't back up that claim well because it simply is indefensible. I'm someone who studies cars intensely just for fun, and I have done so all my life. I regularly get on wikipedia and look up information on different cars (sold both here in the states and abroad) just for shits and giggles. I check Autoblog and CarScoop every day. I maintain a very long thread here dedicated to automobiles and update it almost daily. To put it simply, I'm an enthusiast-I take an interest in cars that goes beyond about 95% of humans on the planet.

Guess what? I would have a very hard time distinguishing a 2011 BMW 5-Series from a 2013. Why? Because the car didn't actually change very much.

This is the thing about automobiles: model cycles run for many years in the case of some vehicles, and usually at least 4 or 5 in the case of most. These cars are not easy to distinguish. Most men can't do it, most men who are enthusiasts can't do it, and I'm very certain that virtually no women out there can do it. He's simply giving them too much credit.

Now, could they distinguish between, say, a 1994 5-Series and a 2010? Sure. If that the kind of comparison this guy is making (young guys buying very old, cheap, beat up beamers and expecting the kind of cache new ones get), then he is right. Even girls will see right through that, but any distinctions less obvious and less dramatic than this are not a given to be noticed. Your typical girl probably isn't even going to make a huge distinction between a 2008 M5 and a 2014. To most, they will look the same.

He may try to work around this argument by saying "Yeah, maybe most girls would be fooled, but the ones who would be impressed by a car wouldn't be because they're more savvy". I call shenanigans there as well. The type of girl who would be impressed by a guy in a certain kind of car is a badge/prestige snob, and these kinds of women are easily blinded by the right name and the right image. They may be well informed as to what brands have cache and they will not easily be fooled by a kid pushing a 15 year old example of a car from that brand, but they could easily be fooled by a 3-6 year old example (depending on the model). They just want to be seen in something that sounds prestigious and looks the part, and plenty of recently built used cars fit that bill. Almost all of them also lack the ability to identify these cars properly.

These girls do not study cars to the level of depth necessary to really tease out the subtle differences between, say, a 2010 Audi S4 and a 2014. In many cases, there ARE no significant differences between such models, so they're totally unable to make a distinction anyhow. Cars that are of different generations but similar in appearance (ex: 2014 911 vs. 2007 911) are also going to be very hard for even a girl concerned with car brands to distinguish. What she will see is a Porsche and the cache that comes with it. She'll be able to tell based on the shape that its reasonably new and, for all she knows, you just bought it at the dealership. That is all.

I have written about this on ROK before: don't give girls too much credit. Hypergamy is not a difficult force to trick and/or mislead. The image you present can be more important than the substance. That goes for game, style, and automobiles as much as anything else.

Again, his broader point is entirely correct. Young guys should not be springing for used BMWs/Lexus'/etc and his insight into the problems these out-of-warranty luxury vehicles have is very good, but he's just giving girls too much credit. These women (especially the ones who speak the way his impressions sound and especially those who do not reside in affluent neighborhoods where luxury vehicles are particularly common) are just not that savvy.

The motorcycle point he made is especially credited. When it comes to vehicles that attract women, the motorcycle is highly underrated. He's also right that guys shouldn't be leaning on a car to get girls in the first place, but rather a car should merely be a part of an overall package that makes you an "interesting" man on a substantive level. Good vid on the whole, just noting that girls are not as savvy as he thinks is all.

[CaliforniaSupreme]

(09-26-2013 07:56 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  

(09-26-2013 07:35 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Neither:

I like the way you think.

Honda's are family trucksters.

GXP's are still expensive as hell unfortunately, and aren't particularly luxurious or uber reliable. But they haul a$$ down the 1/4 mile!

I'd personally wait on the Accord Hybrid, don't buy it on it's first model year. Try looking into the Subaru WRX STI or something like that- fun, not terrible on gas, decently reliable.

BTW msg me if anyone needs any help with cars, I'm pretty good with them.

[Excelsior]

(10-07-2013 09:53 PM)CaliforniaSupreme Wrote:  

GXP's are still expensive as hell unfortunately, and aren't particularly luxurious or uber reliable. But they haul a$$ down the 1/4 mile!

I'm still seeing GXPs on Cars.com for under $35k. The GTs are much cheaper, less than $21k for a decent example with reasonable mileage in most cases.

Both are better choices IMO for a young guy looking for a fun, practical car than an Accord Hybrid or even a standard A4.

[CaliforniaSupreme]

(10-07-2013 10:39 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(10-07-2013 09:53 PM)CaliforniaSupreme Wrote:  

GXP's are still expensive as hell unfortunately, and aren't particularly luxurious or uber reliable. But they haul a$$ down the 1/4 mile!

I'm still seeing GXPs on Cars.com for under $35k. The GTs are much cheaper, less than $21k for a decent example with reasonable mileage in most cases.

Both are better choices IMO for a young guy looking for a fun, practical car than an Accord Hybrid or even a standard A4.

It's not cheap for a used car that's been discontinued. The V8 gas mileage is 15/24- terrible if he actually cares about mileage. But it's a NICE car and I'd pick it out of the bunch if numbers didn't matter. It's definitely pretty sleeper looking too. Another car I'd love to have is the Cadillac XLR

[chyamor]

on a side note, whats the best anti theft device? car is already getting a lo jack for free, but I want one more device http://www.ravelco.com/ any good?


http://www.amazon.com/Unelko-PJAUTO-Peda...006CVZN6C/

etc

[el mechanico]

(10-08-2013 08:27 AM)chyamor Wrote:  

on a side note, whats the best anti theft device? car is already getting a lo jack for free, but I want one more device http://www.ravelco.com/ any good?


http://www.amazon.com/Unelko-PJAUTO-Peda...006CVZN6C/

etc

It comes with anti-theft don't worry about it.