[OSL]

http://beyondgrowth.net/lifestyle-design...-designer/

I've been commenting recently that I'm a bit jaded by all the cookie-cutter lifestyle design sites out there, so this blog post sort of makes some good points.

Solid points that are made:

-CO2 emissions
-Cookie cutter "quit your job and travel the world" posts clogging the internet
-Elitism

Yes, the general attitude with which lifestyle designers push it into your face might get out of hand sometimes. I can arguably say I've written posts with a tone similar to this.

At the end of the day though, if working to make my income mobile so that I can live the life I want makes me an asshole, then I'm willing to be an asshole.

[gringoed]

Hahaha hilarious! Some of those are spot-on.

[hydrogonian]

Definitely spot on, at least in terms of the humor. Some of it was pure haterade (feel dumb writing that) though.

After all, relatively wealthy guys spending money in poor places increases the native standard of living. The natives aren't complaining, trust me.

And there's nothing wrong with nice clothes, especially when you don't own that much to begin with and have some type of respect for your own image.

You need to have 'projects' going to make money.

The consultant remark was funny, and probably true in a lot of cases.

There are definitely too many lifestyle design websites popping up that are authored by guys who aren't even clearly leading the lifestyle except perhaps through a sporadic extended vacation type of model. Ie: they have to come back to work at Wal-Mart to save for their next trip. The amount of unoriginal and shallow information available now, following this trend, is staggering. Therefore, that funny post was great to provide some kind of counterbalance to the flood of weakness out there.

There are several guys on this forum who are truly successful at it, though.

[Whoremonger]

Its a growing movement, and a healthy one at that. I think that with the rise of feminism many men are starting to wonder what the point of being a cubicle jockey is. Why bother slaving away to feed a family when you have a 50% chance of being taken to the cleaners and losing your kids?

[Vacancier Permanent]

Good point whoremonger. With the internet and all these guys showing the way, more and more men are realizing they do have options and that is pissing off the feminazi beasts to no end.
As to the post that you shared with us YMG, it might be funny but I see it more as filled with ignorance, envy, resentment and jealousy from guys who have probably given a half assed effort to create a nice lifestyle for themselves but have failed miserably and now, they're taking their resentement and misery and blaming these guys. I briefly browsed through these guys' blog and I have rarely seen a more useless and lame site. Two thumbs down as far as I'm concerned.

[Whoremonger]

This shit scares people because they worry about their own decisions in life, but it also creates a lot of resentment. People try to live their lives according to some sort of schedule. School, jobs, marriage, kids. Im 31 now, and I am starting to see divorces coming through, separations, friends losing kids. Wonderful stuff. The same routine of exercise, commute, work, lunch, work, commute, chores, watch a bit of TV, bed. Miserable existence if you ask me.

Nothing scares people more than a man who says "fuck this". He is not playing by the rules. Why marry a western broad when she makes for a bad wife? Why spend 60 hour work weeks slaving away while she plunges you into debt for shit you dont need? Why work your ass off making someone else rich while you spend your best years slaving away in some meaningless job? I cant remember what I did last week Monday, but I can remember what I did when I was in Poland.

Im done with this shit by the time Im 35.

[OSL]

I'd like to think of Lifestyle Design not as ditching meaningful work so that we can selfishly consume elsewhere - but as a means for a person to pursue meaningful and productive goals that do not tie them down. I call this "Altruistic Lifestyle Design."

Lifestyle Design can be done so that our talents and skills can be made more productive elsewhere. I want to end the concept that one necessarily has to sacrifice income in order to do meaningful and charitable work. Embracing the lifestyle design concept does not mean we have to become selfish and hedonistic people.

For me, if I made enough income to satisfy my future financial goals I would go and use my environmental skills to go help preserve marine areas.

WE CAN BECOME WEALTHY WHILE DIRECTING OUR TIME AND ENERGY TOWARDS MEANINGFUL GOALS.

Some areas: environment, education, science, poverty, healthcare and disease, microfinance.....the list goes on and on

Many of the world’s most pressing problems do not have proper management because the talent is going to where the salary is highest - especially in this economy.

Despite my lifestyle goals, I still want to become an influential expert in my field. As CLR said, “balance, balance.”

I’m glad I read that lifestyle design hater post. It gave me a perspective on all of this. Neither side of the spectrum is completely right.

[HD668B]

This guy sounds exactly like a white knight trying to pull down Gamers.

[OSL]

Who, me or the blog post writer?

If you were referring to me, then I think you might have taken my post the wrong way.

I've repeated several times in other posts that the reason I want to design my life in the way I do is precisely to pull women into my life - which is what I assume you mean when you say gamers.

Besides, after three months of partying and picking up women, would it not get sort of boring and shallow after a while? That is what I'm getting at. I love partying and dating foreign women just as much as the next guy.

I've done the "go to this city solely to bang chicks" thing before. It was fun while it lasted but in retrospect I wish I had done more during my time there than get laid.

We're intelligent men here, we can forge lifestyles abroad in which we are constantly surrounded by beautiful women while doing things that are personally meaningful to us. These things don't have to be mutually exclusive. In fact, by doing these things that are personally relevant to you, arguably you would pull more attractive women into your life.

I am no white knight, trust me.

I post my previous comment in order to open up a discussion about the sorts of alternative pursuits you guys would pursue in addition to picking up women.

It's unfortunate you got the wrong impression, if that is the case.

[rumguzzler]

It's a funny page - but it's just hating on hipsters.

Love #17.

[Chaz]

youngmobileglobal,

I am sure that L'Etranger was talking about the author of the blog post that you linked to. I really like your views on the subject -- meaningful and substantive. I was not really aware of this (new?) term "lifestyle design" or what it entails, except what I gathered from reading this forum. Anyway, I guess that "4 Hour Workweek" is the bible for this? Any other recommended resources? What inspired you?

I just ordered 4HWW on amazon, and am gonna get into this stuff, since it is really interesting to me...

[thegmanifesto]

"Anyway, I guess that "4 Hour Workweek" is the bible for this?"

Yes. The Four Hour Workweek is to Lifestyle Design as The Game is to The Pickup Artists.

Both communities are huge these days.

Of course there are cats that did both this stuff before the Internet, The four hour workweek and The Game.

They are commonly referred to as "G's".

[gringoed]

(10-11-2010 12:20 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Both communities are huge these days.

And the Roosh community is like a hybrid of the two.

[thegmanifesto]

(10-11-2010 12:25 PM)gringoed Wrote:  

(10-11-2010 12:20 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Both communities are huge these days.

And the Roosh community is like a hybrid of the two.

For sure. I have mentioned that before as the reason this is the only forum I post on.

[Chaz]

Cool. Thanks G, and thanks gringoed! I am gonna read that book, and get deeper into both communities. Seems like good stuff and good times.