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[frenchcorporation]

python or ruby would be a good shout, python is widely regarded as the best beginner language and will most likely get you a paying position faster than any other language due to its easy syntax and popularity amongst software companies

I made a thread about similar stuff over a year back, you'll find some useful info in it
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-26260.html

good luck bruh

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[lycosidae]

I think the best way to learn is by doing. Come up with a project that has some business utility, mock it up, and then use the web and books to figure out how to build it. That forms the basis for your portfolio.

Not sure about bootcamps... Thing about programming (particularly web programming) is things change all the time, so being able to self-teach is an advantage.

(01-14-2015 01:37 PM)lowhead360 Wrote:  

Hey everyone,

I'm a twenty year old who is currently major in a worthless arts degree and rather than continue down the path of endless student debt like the vast majority of my peers, I realize that I've got to get my shit together and find something useful to pursue as a career.

I've been doing a fair bit of research on these programming bootcamps where after two months of extremely intensive training, you become well versed in various coding languages and hirable as a result.

Has anyone here been to one these bootcamps? Does anyone know or work with people that have been hired out of them?

The two bootcamps I'm looking at are:
https://www.lighthouselabs.ca/program
http://codecore.ca/

Also, does anyone have any information in regards to what coding languages might be a good idea to start learning independently?

Any help is much appreciated

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[WestIndianArchie]

(01-15-2015 12:13 AM)lycosidae Wrote:  

Not sure about bootcamps... Thing about programming (particularly web programming) is things change all the time, so being able to self-teach is an advantage.

A lot of the coding bootcamps offer job placement. That's hard to beat.

WIA

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(01-15-2015 09:58 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(01-15-2015 12:13 AM)lycosidae Wrote:  

Not sure about bootcamps... Thing about programming (particularly web programming) is things change all the time, so being able to self-teach is an advantage.

A lot of the coding bootcamps offer job placement. That's hard to beat.

WIA

Which ones specifically offer job placement?

[evilhei]

(01-15-2015 12:13 AM)lycosidae Wrote:  

Yeah, I've started learning (Ruby and when I get the hang of it, Ruby on Rails) independently on codeacademy and learncodingthehardway. I've heard that treehouse is an excellent resource as well so I might migrate there.

I really do think I benefit from a classroom environment though but I will 100 percent continue with the independent learning. As you said, building an actual project and being able to put that on a resume would probably be the most useful.

I recommend checking out http://www.meteor.com instead of learning RoR. Meteor is based on JavaScript and covers both the server and client side. Its quite new technology and its easy and has powerfull features, for example real time updates in all the clients windows without restarting the server etc. Also you cover both front and back end with learning one Language.

[Sonsowey]

I have a friend who in his late 20s quit his job, did a few-month-long bootcamp, basically starting from Zero.

He kept learning on his own, networking like crazy, and after a few months found a job. He was not really prepared for this job, so he had to keep studying a lot on his own. His boss was helpful and gave him time to learn, thankfully.

The bootcamp won't prepare you for everything but it's definitely a good head-start.

You can go on http://www.codecademy.com to start doing whatever you want.

[game_ethic]

Check out Python. It's easier to learn - in my opinion, at least - than other languages and it is used by a lot of companies. As for teaching yourself Python, I recommend edX - they have a lot of Computer Science courses. The cool thing about edX is that you can earn certificates and take the courses at your own pace. You're also quizzed each week to help reinforce what you've learned. And, if you get stuck, there's a discussion forum where you can ask questions.

Here's the Python course:
https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-...-6-00-1x-0

[Vaun]

hackathon's are a great way to meet other people and build stuff and give you a taste of building something, especially if you get into a good group and you actually ship a working product at the end of it. I am not sure where you live, but check out meet up or your local college for them.

[btz]

(01-16-2015 04:26 PM)evilhei Wrote:  

(01-15-2015 12:13 AM)lycosidae Wrote:  

Yeah, I've started learning (Ruby and when I get the hang of it, Ruby on Rails) independently on codeacademy and learncodingthehardway. I've heard that treehouse is an excellent resource as well so I might migrate there.

I really do think I benefit from a classroom environment though but I will 100 percent continue with the independent learning. As you said, building an actual project and being able to put that on a resume would probably be the most useful.

I recommend checking out http://www.meteor.com instead of learning RoR. Meteor is based on JavaScript and covers both the server and client side. Its quite new technology and its easy and has powerfull features, for example real time updates in all the clients windows without restarting the server etc. Also you cover both front and back end with learning one Language.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this.

I love meteor but the OP wants a career, meteor is fun but it's not that great for a newbie looking for a job. He needs something more established that has years and years of people asking and answering common questions he'll have as he's learning.

[lycosidae]

I think the problem with the bootcamp is the cost. If you're already working, have health insurance, ect -- quitting your job and shelling out 10k or whatever for the bootcamp (plus 3-6 months living expenses) seems pretty foolhardy to me. Are there accrediting bodies to testify to the quality of these programs and the quality of instruction? For me, it would be a huge risk to quit my job and enter a program out of the hopes that it would give me a job...

It sounds like the bootcamp is probably better for someone living at home with their parents and not having debt and living expenses to pay on.

The better route in terms of classroom instruction for most would be some kind of certificate program through a community college because it'll be cheaper and you can take the classes at night while still working. Just make sure the content is up to date before you enroll... All community colleges are different so you have to do some research first. Community colleges often have job placement assistance as well - and you'd have a credential coming out of it to put on your resume.

(01-16-2015 04:35 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

I have a friend who in his late 20s quit his job, did a few-month-long bootcamp, basically starting from Zero.

He kept learning on his own, networking like crazy, and after a few months found a job. He was not really prepared for this job, so he had to keep studying a lot on his own. His boss was helpful and gave him time to learn, thankfully.

The bootcamp won't prepare you for everything but it's definitely a good head-start.

You can go on http://www.codecademy.com to start doing whatever you want.