[Mekorig]

(06-23-2013 04:14 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 03:43 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

We don't let in talented hard-working immigrants from Europe who are middle class, but instead we'll turn a blind eye to the lowest scum who can break laws and enter illegally and give citizenship through amnesty afterwards.

What makes you think Europeans are looking to come here in droves? Economic motivation is the driving force behind most immigration. You don't see many Americans immigrating to Europe nor vice-versa, as you would expect, because these are first-world places. In addition to that, why the hell would they give up their generous cradle-to-grave welfare system and national healthcare to come to America where it's every man for himself? These days most European countries have more liberties than America. Clubs stay open late, you can drink a beer on the beach, won't be thrown in prison for smoking a joint, not at war with anyone, etc. Why would Europeans want to come here in large numbers? It would be a downgrade in lifestyle.

I dont have hard numbers right now, but IIRC, most europeans, right now, are inmigrating to Latin America (mainly) and Asia.

[Samseau]

(06-23-2013 04:14 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 03:43 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

We don't let in talented hard-working immigrants from Europe who are middle class, but instead we'll turn a blind eye to the lowest scum who can break laws and enter illegally and give citizenship through amnesty afterwards.

What makes you think Europeans are looking to come here in droves? Economic motivation is the driving force behind most immigration. You don't see many Americans immigrating to Europe nor vice-versa, as you would expect, because these are first-world places. In addition to that, why the hell would they give up their generous cradle-to-grave welfare system and national healthcare to come to America where it's every man for himself? These days most European countries have more liberties than America. Clubs stay open late, you can drink a beer on the beach, won't be thrown in prison for smoking a joint, not at war with anyone, etc. Why would Europeans want to come here in large numbers? It would be a downgrade in lifestyle.

First and foremost, America would have been a top choice for most Europeans.... 20-40 years ago. However, America has destroyed itself by bankrupting itself on the immigration problem. It truly is one of the worst problems in America right now, and the masses of illegal immigrants have greatly swelled the ranks of Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security recipients. And of course, none of them pay taxes.

Had we put in place a sensible immigration policy back when it mattered, then we could have maintained our top position and continued to attract the top talent with it.

Even today, we get many European immigrants who come here for school but cannot stay because of our retarded policy. Meanwhile immigrants who break laws are allowed to get free food/housing/healthcare for their children because they are born on American soil.

By the way - nearly every European women who has visited here in Boston LOVES America more than Europe. How can you blame them - America is a sausage fest. Of course we don't let hot Greek women stay here, we only let Pedro the drug smuggler and his 10 kids stay.

TheTexasProphet Wrote:

As for the illegal immigrant issue, the illegals aren't going to get kicked out...ever. In fact, illegal immigrants are going to be offered a path to citizenship. The Democrats have made this a sticking point of any immigration reform.

Yep, and this is one of the main reasons America is going to be much poorer in the next 30 years.

Basically, if a democrat supports it, then you can bet your soul it is destroying the country.

[Galnuc69]

(06-23-2013 09:52 AM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 03:43 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 03:34 AM)Galnuc69 Wrote:  

I like how every white nationalist movement is about separation and/or self determination. While every Non-White "Civil Rights" is about having privileged access to political, economic, and social institutions, and access to more white produced wealth. Just an interesting juxtaposition. These groups can whine all they want about "white privilege", but the fact is they can't, and don't want to live without us carrying them along for the ride.

The blacks were self-reliant for a long time until the Great Society by Lyndon Johnson was put in place. After that the black nuclear family was destroyed and dysgenics kicked in.

As for Hispanics, we have the most retarded immigration policy in the world. We don't let in talented hard-working immigrants from Europe who are middle class, but instead we'll turn a blind eye to the lowest scum who can break laws and enter illegally and give citizenship through amnesty afterwards.

There are a lot of talented, intelligent men of all colors in this world. But America (specifically the democrats) don't want any of them. Instead they want dumb, dependent sheep who will continue to elect them into power.

A sensible immigration policy would get rid of every illegal immigrant, and then allow people come work and live in America provided they could prove to contribute some kind of value.

Samseau, the immigration bill that is currently being debated in Congress is going to greatly expand the H-1B visa program, and most of the people who will be brought under this program are going to be Asian and Indian.

As for the illegal immigrant issue, the illegals aren't going to get kicked out...ever. In fact, illegal immigrants are going to be offered a path to citizenship. The Democrats have made this a sticking point of any immigration reform.

I don't see how Asian immigration will benefit the USA, particularly in a looming economic depression. All these people will do is drive downward pressure on wages for jobs held by middle to upper middle class Americans. It will most likely put good American friends I have with degrees in engineering, accounting, and computer science out on their ass without jobs.

Also, with out native White population not reproducing, at this point, non-white migration is not immigration, it is replacement and colonization.

Not that I have a problem with Indians or Chinese, but I think when you import millions of them a year, you won't get assimilation, you will get cultural importation.

[playa_with_a_passport]

(06-24-2013 12:50 AM)Galnuc69 Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 09:52 AM)The Texas Prophet Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 03:43 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 03:34 AM)Galnuc69 Wrote:  

I like how every white nationalist movement is about separation and/or self determination. While every Non-White "Civil Rights" is about having privileged access to political, economic, and social institutions, and access to more white produced wealth. Just an interesting juxtaposition. These groups can whine all they want about "white privilege", but the fact is they can't, and don't want to live without us carrying them along for the ride.

The blacks were self-reliant for a long time until the Great Society by Lyndon Johnson was put in place. After that the black nuclear family was destroyed and dysgenics kicked in.

As for Hispanics, we have the most retarded immigration policy in the world. We don't let in talented hard-working immigrants from Europe who are middle class, but instead we'll turn a blind eye to the lowest scum who can break laws and enter illegally and give citizenship through amnesty afterwards.

There are a lot of talented, intelligent men of all colors in this world. But America (specifically the democrats) don't want any of them. Instead they want dumb, dependent sheep who will continue to elect them into power.

A sensible immigration policy would get rid of every illegal immigrant, and then allow people come work and live in America provided they could prove to contribute some kind of value.

Samseau, the immigration bill that is currently being debated in Congress is going to greatly expand the H-1B visa program, and most of the people who will be brought under this program are going to be Asian and Indian.

As for the illegal immigrant issue, the illegals aren't going to get kicked out...ever. In fact, illegal immigrants are going to be offered a path to citizenship. The Democrats have made this a sticking point of any immigration reform.

I don't see how Asian immigration will benefit the USA, particularly in a looming economic depression. All these people will do is drive downward pressure on wages for jobs held by middle to upper middle class Americans. It will most likely put good American friends I have with degrees in engineering, accounting, and computer science out on their ass without jobs.

Also, with out native White population not reproducing, at this point, non-white migration is not immigration, it is replacement and colonization.

Not that I have a problem with Indians or Chinese, but I think when you import millions of them a year, you won't get assimilation, you will get cultural importation.

I concur, I don't think people understand how destructive/disruptive the HB1 program is. Good for corporations but shitty for Americans with STEM degrees. The guys being brought over under the HB1 program are not here to be "job creators," they are here to become Job takers. They are not here to create the next Yahoo, Ebay, Google. They are mostly given entry level engineering/IT jobs and are paid considerably less than an American would. After a few years of this, STEM degrees are going to be as worthless as Art history and Women Studies majors.

[iknowexactly]

(06-24-2013 04:28 AM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  

I concur, I don't think people understand how destructive/disruptive the HB1 program is. Good for corporations but shitty for Americans with STEM degrees. The guys being brought over under the HB1 program are not here to be "job creators," they are here to become Job takers. They are not here to create the next Yahoo, Ebay, Google. They are mostly given entry level engineering/IT jobs and are paid considerably less than an American would. After a few years of this, STEM degrees are going to be as worthless as Art history and Women Studies majors.

The primary thing that Power does is try to retain and accumulate more Power.

There is no honesty, no consideration of aesthetics like a society or culture. Just My Own Power.

If pandering to Patriotism and racism will increase power, as it does when a profiteers' war needs to be started, Power will do that.

If pandering to "openness," like when Power needs more H1B visas that will help Power Make More and Pay Less, they will do that.

There is no Business that is your friend. That is where pro-business people are naive and err: All any business wants from you is your money. They may want to hire you, but it will for the shortest, lowest paid period possible.

Unless they can hire someone cheaper from Asia. Then they will never hire you at all.

There is no "free market" , except for multi-billion multi-nationals, and maybe tiny boutiques too small to be worth crushing for Power.

[Don Juan Tenorio]

(06-23-2013 03:25 AM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  

Kind of a shitty example, I shouldn't be suited up at all times just so the police wouldn't fuck with me. You are trying to imply that all things being equal, a White guy has the same chance of being "getting pulled over/harrassed/shaken down/beaten/killed" as a Black guy. This is just not true.

Also, Police Departments in the US aren't "Multi cultural." In fact, in aggregate, Police Departments and federal law enforcement agencies in the US are overwhelmingly white. This doesn't necessarily mean they are all racist, but law enforcement do tend to attract people who are to the right of the political spectrum who believe in HBD, racial purity and the threat of genetic annihilation. Wether those beliefs "leak" over to their professional lives when dealing with Black or Brown citizens that's a post for another day. There's a really long and bitter history between Blacks and the police that predates the explosion in Black crime that started after the crack era.

Even in police departments that have a sizable contingent of minority cops, the supervisors and management teams are almost always all White. Most Black and Latin cops are strictly there as tokens and they screen for candidates who aren't going to rock the boat racially. Take a look at Chris Doner manifesto or listen to KRS-One "Black Cop" to see what I am talking about. As a matter of fact, I actually rather be pulled over by 2 white cops than a black cop working alongside a White cop for this same reason.

It's not about being suited up, it's about not looking/behaving in a threatening way:

Like this:



instead of like this:



like this:



instead of like this:



You can dress the way you want to, but as the way you dress and how you speak affects your game and how you interact with girls it will do with cops perceiving you as a potential threat and acting consequently.

Continueing with cops... have you considered that maybe other ethnics are stopped by the police as much as you, just they assume that cops are doing their job, cooperate, answer questions, show documents and continue without making fuss? I've been stopped by cops at home and abroad, I just show my ID or my passport, answer politely the questions and carry on. Whatever race I am or whatever country I am if I am aggressive and hostile the officers will reflect on my attitude, they're just normal people and they want to have a smooth shit, avoid confrontations and go back home so much as we do. In the case the officer is a jackass (and there is nothing worst than a jackass with power, whatever race he is) and he had a bad day, his team lost or he found someone is banging his wife the least you should do is be cocky, the wisest move is to be smooth, cooperate and if he breaks the rules talk with your lawyer or a human rights association and sue the hell out of him.

I don't discriminate on people on the grounds of race, nationality, religion... I judge them for what they are and what they do. However I can't avoid being biased by previous (bad) experiences; I've had previous bad experiences with gipsies thus I keep the guard up, however I don't take it on every gipsy I meet and I don't know and I give him a chance to prove me I'm wrong; so far all Jeova Whitnesses I've met are reliable people, what makes me keep the guard low what doesn't mean he could double cross me.

Maybe cops have had previous negative experiences with black young males, or maybe it's the high rates of criminality, rape, drug offenses or behaviours like those seen in NOLA during the hurricane (specially comparing it with the behaviour of other people dealing with natural disasters like Japan or New Zealand), or incidents like this where imho the worst is not the guy who hits and those who stole his belongings, but the fact that everybody else is laughing and mocking him in which an American citizen is beaten up and his belongings, non assisting a person in danger is a crime in my country, don't know in the US.:

In Scandinavia, for example, they have virtually no black population before the 70ies, except for some musician, artist or student, they approached them with curiosity and interest. Black men had a chance to a new start from zero, break all prejudices and gain a new reputation... even a very popular local folk band, Hellbillies, made a song dedicated to the first black man that came to their countryside:

What happened? Instead of kissing the ground they tread on, thank God every day for having been given assylum in the most socially developed countries in the world, with free health care, free education including college, a sallary from the government for every kid they have, and many other things that most africans can just dream about. What did they do those Somalians, Nigerians etc did?:

I don't justify inapropriate or discriminatory treatment against you nor taking it on innocent people for what others do just because you're from the same ethnics, just try to point out the reason why some people do.

You're not responsible for what other members of your community have done, so aren't the cops for what other cops have done, thus the best solution is to be polite.

Check this out:

Detroit


Portland


If you have a look at the websites of Miami, Santa Fe, etc and you will find plenty if not most of hispanic surnames among the high ranks.

Have you thought that maybe law enforcements as any other public institution, represent the community so in overwhelmingly white/latino/black/ populated cities this tends to reflect in the racial line up in the city council, police department, etc? Do you really think in 2013 if a black/hispanic/gay/jewish/muslim police officer or whatever is the best he won't reach the position of chief just because of his race/religion/gender? Are you of those who think that there should be women/minorities in the firefighters, law enforcement corps, army even if there are men/non minority who are more qualified and fit for the job for the sake of diversity?

I lose all my hopes in manhood and our future when I hear men using the very same victimized speech of feminists changing gender with race and blaming on everybody else for their problems. I got fired because I'm hispanic (not because I was lazy and spent the day watching porn instead of working), I've been stopped by the police because I'm black (not because I was drinking in the street), I was fired because I'm a woman (not because I was stealing things from the office).

It's really sad when (black, hispanic, gay, women, etc) complain that there are not enough of their people in whatever institution.

(06-22-2013 05:07 PM)GameTheory Wrote:  

tokens.

the Wehrmacht had tokens as well, just like this guy:

Sir, are you telling me that the most racist and atrocious regime that the world has known, the very same that turned our continent to ashes, that exterminated millions of civillians on death camps on the grounds of political views, religion, ethnic background or being fisically or psychologically handicaped; the very same that killed their own peers without merci when challenged their authority or were a threat to the system had a liberal super trendy left polically correct secret agenda that led them to hire minorities so the world thought they were cool?



Off topic

There were hundreds of thousands of volunteers from other countries of Europe, Asians, Indian nationalists, Arabs even Americans fighting for the III Reich either because they had common enemies or because they saw them as liberators from the opression of other European powers, Soviet Union, etc. They even had part jewish in their armed forces (for whatever the reasons).

I know it's a contradiction but no more than your nobel-prized president sending your boys to be butchered in Afg fighting against the very same guys they train and give money and military support in Kosovo, Ly and Sy and who will become a threat for us in Europe as soon as they reach the power in those countries. Remember this guy and what happened last time you did the same?

[playa_with_a_passport]

(06-24-2013 09:26 PM)Don Juan Tenorio Wrote:  

It's not about being suited up, it's about not looking/behaving in a threatening way:

Apples and Oranges. Hoodies and baseball caps aren't indicative of criminal activity. They aren't gang attire.

Everybody regardless of race and social class under the age of 30 wears then. Military jackets, high leather boots and bald head not so much....

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You can dress the way you want to, but as the way you

dress and how you speak affects your game and how you interact with girls it will do with cops perceiving you as a potential

threat and acting consequently.

No arguments there with regard to girls. Unless the kid is rocking gang colors or he fits the description of a wanted

criminal, cops shouldn't be stopping people based on attire alone. Also, a lot of young Black kids now love to wear skinny jeans with their butt cheeks showing and tight clothing, that has to be a god sent to cops because you can tell he's not carrying a gun and he wont run fast.

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Continueing with cops... have you considered that maybe other
ethnics are stopped by the police as much as you

No they are not. This is not even in dispute. Just in NYC alone.

In 2011, in New York City, 685,724 people were stopped, 84 percent of whom were Black and Latino residents

In 2011, 88 percent of all stops did not result in an arrest or a summons being given.

A little math for you. 685,724*84%=576,008
576,008*88%=506,887 the number of minorities that were not doing anything wrong and were stopped and searched by cops.

http://ccrjustice.org/racial-disparity-n...and-frisks
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/...index.html

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just they assume that cops are doing their job, cooperate, answer questions, show documents and continue without making fuss? I've been stopped by cops at home and abroad, I just show my ID or my passport, answer politely the questions and carry on. Whatever race I am or whatever country I am if I am aggressive and hostile the officers will reflect on my attitude, they're just normal people and they want to have a smooth
shit, avoid confrontations and go back home so much as we do. In the case the officer is a jackass (and there is nothing worst than a jackass with power, whatever race he is) and he had a bad day, his team lost or he found someone is banging his wife the least you should do is be cocky, the wisest move is to be smooth, cooperate and if he breaks the rules talk with
your lawyer or a human rights association and sue the hell out of him.

When you were stopped by the police where you wearing a suit? where they pointing their guns at you? did they search you? put their hands down your pants and felt around the nutsack area while your hands were against the wall?

How often the above would have to happen to you before you are no longer care if a cop had "bad day?"

People are all up in arms that the NSA is going thru everybody email in search of terrorism plots.. Don't Black males have a right to be upset if they being searched randomly as well and ask the police to respect their constitutional rights?

If I am being searched because the cop has probable cause that I just committed a crime, that's fine. But if they are doing it as a fishing expedition that cop will not have my understanding and sympathies.

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I don't discriminate on people on the grounds of race, nationality, religion... I judge them for what they are and what they do. However I can't avoid being biased by previous (bad) experiences; I've had previous bad experiences with gipsies thus I keep the guard up, however I don't take it on every gipsy I meet and I don't know and I give him a chance to prove me I'm wrong; so far all Jeova Whitnesses I've met are
reliable people, what makes me keep the guard low what doesn't mean he could double cross me.

Fair enough.

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Maybe cops have had previous negative experiences with black
young males, or maybe it's the high rates of criminality, rape, drug offenses or behaviours like those seen in NOLA during the hurricane (specially comparing it with the behaviour of other people dealing with natural disasters like Japan or New Zealand)

Is true, Black and Hispanic men commit most of the felonies in NYC. NYC also has the largest population Blacks living in the US about 3.5 million Blacks. Is the solution is stopping and searching every Black male 15-35 regardless whether he's doing activity that's indicative of criminality? Every single Black male I know in NYC has been stopped by the police at least
once.

Are the cops stopping and searching that many males because they are afraid of their safety? or because they know if you stop and search enough Black males is only a matter time you going to run into somebody who has a gun or contraband?

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In Scandinavia, for example, they have virtually no black
population before the 70ies, except for some musician, artist or student, they approached them with curiosity and interest.
Black men had a chance to a new start from zero, break all prejudices and gain a new reputation... even a very popular local
folk band, Hellbillies, made a song dedicated to the first black man that came to their countryside:
What happened? Instead of kissing the ground they tread on, thank God every day for having been given assylum in the most
socially developed countries in the world, with free health care, free education including college, a sallary from the
government for every kid they have, and many other things that most africans can just dream about. What did they do those
Somalians, Nigerians etc did?:

I thought all the problems in Scandinavian was being caused by Arab Muslim? But I don't know enough Scandinavia racial
politics to have an opinion either way.

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I don't justify inapropriate or discriminatory treatment against
you nor taking it on innocent people for what others do just because you're from the same ethnics, just try to point out the
reason why some people do.

Things are a little more complicated than what you have outlined above.

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You're not responsible for what other members of your community have done, so aren't the cops for what other cops have done,
thus the best solution is to be polite.

Fair enough.

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If you have a look at the websites of Miami, Santa Fe, etc and
you will find plenty if not most of hispanic surnames among the high ranks.

Proves nothing. Hispanic is not a race. Senator Marco Rubio and I are both Cubans. He's White and I am dark as coal. In other words, back in the 1950's, I would have to drink from the Black water fountain and him from the White one.

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Have you thought that maybe law enforcements as any other public
institution, represent the community so in overwhelmingly white/latino/black/ populated cities this tends to reflect in the
racial line up in the city council, police department, etc?

In theory it should be like that but that's not always the case. NYC population is 35% Black, yet only 17% NYPD cops are Black. Once, you start going up in rank is pretty much all White. As per wikipedia Article.

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Of 4,639 sergeants, 61% (2,841) were white and 39% (1,798) were minorities. Of 1,742 lieutenants, 76%
(1,323) were white and 24% (419) were minorities. Of 432 captains, 82% (356) were white and 18% (76) were minorities. Of 10 chiefs, 7 were white and 3 were minorities.

The NYC fire department is 95% White.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/31/nyregi...d=all&_r=0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_C...#Personnel

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Are you of those who think that there should be women/minorities in the firefighters, law enforcement corps, army even if there are men/non minority who are more qualified and fit for the job for the sake of diversity?

This is a loaded question and a common conservative talking point.This is a very common argument by the Police and Fire unions because most people are not familiar how police and fire hiring works. I believe in a leveled playing field.

Do you know how most of the hiring is done for most police jobs? I give you a hint, is not by merit or natural ability. Police and firefighter jobs are entry level jobs. No working experience required besides the very minimum possible requirements. Take the NYPD, it is the largest police department in the US(35,000 Police Officers) and they are the gold standard of policing across the nation(FBI is an investigatory agency, they do not do patrol). Many chiefs in the major cities of the US were former NYPD officers.

This is NYPD minimum requirements are:

21 year old
60 college credits 2.0 GPA or 2 years military
No felony, theft, or domestic violence conviction
driver license.
passing psychological and physical test.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcas/downloads/p...311000.pdf

You take a test, You score high, you get hired. sounds fair right?

The problem comes that Fire departments and police departments tend to be multi generational jobs and nepotism is rampant.They are actually very good jobs. In the NYC tri State area(NJ-NY-CT) is not rare for cops to actually make over 150k a year. If you grew up on a household where you father and other relatives were cops that gives you a tremendous advantage because you already know what's going to be on the test. You did not score higher on the test because your high IQ, you scored high because you knew what was going to be in it. The problem starts when all the people who have relatives on those jobs are all White.

The Games don't stop there, even if a minority scores within the hiring range, he still has to be processed by that department by someone who probably has a vested interest in protecting the status quo. They don't so much as hate minorities but they understand that there's only a finite number of good jobs with Health Insurance, Pension, Overtime available. For Every minority that gets hired, is less of a chance that a relative of his is going to get a job.

NYPD is a relatively easy job for a minority to get because of all the lawsuits that have for the most part leveled the playing field. The test are given often so if you don't do well in that one, you can take it again until you get a good score. Police jobs in the suburbs like Suffolk, Nassau, westchester, Putnam are given like once every 5 years so candidates who have relatives already on those jobs(All who are White) have an edge.
Also, anybody who lives in the suburbs of NYC is eligible to become a NYPD officer but NYC residents are not allowed to even take the test to be hired as a cop in the suburbs.

Therefore, is not about lowering standards at the expense of diversity is about keeping the basic standards artificially low so you can cherry pick who gets hired by giving them help on the test and through out the hiring process. Is all about the select few Gaming the system to provide jobs to their relatives at the exclusion of others. This is a big problem actually that's bankrupting neighboring NYC counties.

Conservatives should be all over this blatant Gaming of the system, instead
they are too busy mentally masturbating about that 1 Black guy a year who gets into the ivy League under affirmative action.

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I lose all my hopes in manhood and our future when I hear men
using the very same victimized speech of feminists changing gender with race and blaming on everybody else for their problems. I got fired because I'm hispanic (not because I was lazy and spent the day watching porn instead of working), I've been stopped by the police because I'm black (not because I was drinking in the street), I was fired because I'm a woman (not
because I was stealing things from the office).It's really sad when (black, hispanic, gay, women, etc) complain that there are not enough of their people in whatever institution.

Nice, shaming language. Thank you for playing.

[Samseau]

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Police jobs in the suburbs like Suffolk, Nassau, westchester, Putnam are given like once every 5 years so candidates who have relatives already on those jobs(All who are White) have an edge.

So it really has nothing to do with them being white, but the fact that it can be gamed so easily through nepotism. The whiteness isn't the issue, any other color or race of people would be tempted to do the same thing.

[Alpharius]

When I was hired to my department it was with 10 other new officers, 2 were women, I was the only person of color and the only person with a 4 year degree who could speak more than one language. Was I qualified? You bet your ass, in addition to my background I owned the fitness test. It also helped that my mom had been on the force for awhile way back when and some of the old folks recognised it.

[PoosyWrecker]

(06-23-2013 08:59 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(06-23-2013 03:25 AM)playa_with_a_passport Wrote:  

Even in police departments that have a sizable contingent of minority cops, the supervisors and management teams are almost always all White. Most Black and Latin cops are strictly there as tokens and they screen for candidates who aren't going to rock the boat racially. Take a look at Chris Doner manifesto or listen to KRS-One "Black Cop" to see what I am talking about. As a matter of fact, I actually rather be pulled over by 2 white cops than a black cop working alongside a White cop for this same reason.

There's definitely unfair discrimination in the USA. These things take, literally, centuries to get over. I would hope that it's less now, especially in the South than 50 years ago.

I, a white male, was passed over in a job interview just a couple weeks ago for a women with far less experience. The department where I would have worked, a very desirable government area, now has 100% female full time employees, 14, out of 14. They hire for docility, and probably don't even realize they're discriminating against men.

Every white guy who has served in the armed forces has been discriminated against come promotion time. This is why there are so many black Infantry Sgt Majors, despite the single digit percentage of African-Americans in the Infantry career field in which Whites and Latinos are the overwhelming majority.

A related example:
A paper pusher who managed to never once make a GWOT deployment despite a decade of conflict. Promoted to the highest enlisted rank and assigned as the director of the school than trains the next generation of soldiers.

Command Sergeant Majoress Teresa King

[Remington]

I wanted to revive this thread because White Student Union facebook groups are starting to spread amongst different campuses across the U.S. These have started popping up at a bunch of universities. Most schools have condemned the facebook pages and demand that they are reported.

I find these pages funny because the commenters who feed the trolls of these pages are mostly white. They want to speak for minorities concerning privilege and that they are so offended of the white man's actions.

If you would like a few laughs, check out JMU's White Student Union Facebook Page.

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An anonymous Facebook page created early in the week at the University of Illinois may have been among the first White Student Union pages to pop up, but it’s hardly been the last.

Appearing at Illinois after black students held a rally Wednesday, the page reportedly characterized the Black Lives Matter movement as an act of “terrorism” and called for the monitoring of African-American students who attended the protest, leaving many feeling unsafe at the Urbana-Champaign campus.

Now, as unconfirmed reports – including an anonymous report from Medium — blame the postings on either a white supremacist group or 4Chan users, more than 30 white student union Facebook pages, claiming to represent real college organizations, have been posted. Some schools are quickly distancing themselves — and petitioning Facebook to take them down.

Schools affected include George Washington University, Pennsylvania State University, Stanford University, Swarthmore College, the University of Mississippi, Ohio State University, New York University and the University of Texas – Austin.

Officials at George Washington University, where a white student union page was created on Sunday, condemned the page in a Facebook post published Monday afternoon and encouraged universities to report their pages to the social media giant.

“Other universities around the country have seen similar pages being created in the last week in what appears to be an orchestrated effort. Many have already spoken out against the vitriol and we are asking that the other universities (tagged below) join us in asking Facebook to delete these pages, which are being used for harassment and intimidation,” the post reads.

NYU Director of Public Affairs Matt Nagel told the New York Daily News that the group has used the NYU logo “illegally and without permission, and we have contacted Facebook to demand the NYU logo be removed. We reject — and we call on others to reject — efforts such as this to derail or distort candid, thoughtful discourse on race.”

A spokesperson for Facebook told USA TODAY College that it has deleted some white student union pages created by fake Facebook accounts, which violates its community standards, but that others can not be deleted as they don’t violate community standards, including pages publishing content that “directly attacks people based on their race.”

The pages contain messages and comments like, “We unapologetically provide a safe space for white students to air their true feelings about the future of our nation … at the same time, we do not wish to denigrate or harm any other group or ethnicity.”