I have already posted in another thread this brilliant piece of writing that a friend of mine posted a few years ago on another forum, but maybe the subject(tactics and techniques to meet girls in a bar or a club and get them to your bed) deserves its own thread.
My friend talks about techniques efficient in East Europe and FSU.
In his list, my personal tactic would be "The Player". Yours ?
Here is an incomplete definition of tactical terminology:
1) The Octopus: This is the classic flirting method in FSU and EE. The Octopus simply means you should pretend you have 8 arms and just grope and grovel all over her until she finally:
a) gets all wet and excited and can’t stop herself
b) goes into toxic shock and can no longer resist
This is really one of the top methods and should be mastered with simple practice. Works best with very young girls who are curious + carefree or “girls” over 30 who are happy to get any attention at all. Recent field tests have revealed a new Octopus Tactic resistant strain of 20ish dyevki populating a number of Moscow clubs. These can often be defeated by utilizing the Octopus on Tequila tactic, but caution is recommended. You never know where this might lead. When Octopus isn’t functioning, you may want to try another favorite of mine:
2) The Schizo: Originally developed to woo over a surprisingly nervous and inexperienced 36 year old kindergarden teacher by asking her to let the young curious girl in her out, it was redeveloped and proved most effective in convincing young, nervous and uncertain girls (often with religious beliefs or living with babushka) to explore their femininity. In many cases, the uncertain, nervous girl turned out to be a cock-hungry demonka with an insatiable desire to bone and suck.
The Schizo is simple. When you realize she is uncertain about what she should do, you become “Mr.Understanding” and enquire about her uncertainty. Perhaps her apparent uncertainty is merely faux morality that is easily decoded or perhaps it is indeed the dreaded M word. Morality. Morality is notoriously contagious, so it is best to avoid her girlfriends, at least until you’ve done the deed at least once and she is immune to morality and forever your on-call fuckbunny.
Anyway, so you enquire about her uncertainty, and develop the conversation in such a way that you compare her uncertainty with the behavior of a little girl. This will likely make her feel slightly embarrassed, and you suggest that she is schizo and cannot decide if she is a little girl or a young woman.
Note: I don’t suggest actually using the word “schizo” when describing her “condition” to her. Unexpected negative results may occur..
If you have selected the right tactic and applied it at the right time (for example after 5 Baileys) she will be cast into a turmoil of inner conflict, fighting her own embarrassment for being so uncosmopolitan while at the same time asking herself if she indeed does need to “do more” (do more guys) to become a real woman.
It is a risky tactic, as if it doesn’t work right away it may create mental blockage in the female and she may remain in a near paralysis state of laming schizophrenia for the course of the evening, blocking your 10 and 12 pm fuck time slots and effectively ruining your evening.
3) The Exorcist: The Exorcist means “getting the demon out”. It isn’t a true exorcism, as ultimately you want that little demon of debauchery to stay in her, but you do need to conjure it out of her to release her sexual hunger. Rather than the full-fledged Octopus assault (or perhaps as a change of tactics when she fends off the Octopus), the Exorcist requires some (but really remarkably little) insight into the female psyche. You must find that “button” that turns her on and push it repeatedly. Sometimes that button is a clit and one must make digital or oral contact to activate it, sometimes it is the often-ignored tits, which is a key erogenous zone for a large percentage of women.
During my exorcisms I like to apply neck kisses, some light biting, firm yet discreet ass-grabbing and the outbursts of passionate kissing set in contrast to teasing playful almost kisses. The TPaKs are really a fine technique. Drives girls wild.
The Exorcist may be applied in conjunction with other techniques to achieve maximum sexual results.
4) Total Rapture: When applying Total Rapture you must be certain of the nature of your targets romantic nature. Total Rapture should only be applied to very romantic girls who at least need some semblance of romance and love before spreading. Total Rapture is not for the timid, Total Rapture involves extensive lying and the delicate application of half-truths and the extremely effective TLT, the Temporary Love Transition, this zen-like condition in which you temporarily actually believe that you are in love with the girl and you apply all the corny romantic clichés you can cough up. I really don’t like this tactic, despite its effectiveness, as it involves syrupy lies and saying things guys just really don’t like to say. Not necessarily using the catastrophic L word, but certainly lots of “your eyes are like sapphires”, “at this moment we are alone in the universe, our souls come closer” and “I need to be near you, now and always” bullshit. Some girls, usually extremely boring and sexually inhibited, really require this tactic…and hearing these words.
The danger in randomly applying Total Rapture is that you may inadvertently scare off a girl who doesn’t want to get serious fast but just wants sexual adventure, you may turn off a girl who likes tough, direct men as opposed to hyper-romantic neo-poets (a common desire among Russian women is for men to be direct and aggressive) or you may accidentally create the impression of a serious relationship in her dyev brain. This may very well change her behavior to your disliking and ruin your week.
In my opinion, Total Rapture generally should be applied as a supplement to other tactics, but not be the focal point of your assault. Nonetheless, I have had to apply it in full force upon occasion. I simply had no choice.
5) The Hand Grenade in the Fish Tank: When in a target rich environment, such as 111 or Karma Bar, you can afford to MIRV your approach and hit multiple targets early in an effort to reveal their nature and avoid late night disappointments. The idea behind it is to hit many targets early and hope that of the 10-15 you hit, you’ll get 3-5 that bite and ultimately have to merely select your concussion stunned victim and drag her home. This isn’t one of my favorite tactics, nor is it a favorite of RM, but I do know many guys who apply it with occasional, and sometimes remarkable, success. It is a fun tactic as well, as it is fairly easy and you meet a lot of people. I suggest using this tactic early in the evening or during the peak of the evening, while crowds are still large.
Using this one late night as a bottom-feeding technique will bag the occasional lonely and/or drunk bird, however it could also make you look really pathetic as you chat up every single girl in the place and everybody observes you being shot down repeatedly. If you are achieving no success with the tactic at all, it may in fact be best to go to a different club and start off with a clean slate.
One should avoid using this tactic in the same premises on consecutive weekends or nights. Especially in smaller clubs, you will soon develop a reputation that will hinder your success.
6) The Player: This works best with an equal caliber wingman and involves ignoring most every girl in the place and audibly having a good time with your mate, drinking cocktails and enjoying yourself as if you didn’t have a care in the world, or better yet, owned it. You’ll get attention and your aloofness will intrigue them. Best applied with stylish and refined clothes, power watch, nice shoes, ect. If your patience holds, you will likely get approached in some way by the ladies after some time. This is an effective tactic especially with more sophisticated and better-looking girls… the kind who are used to getting hit on 20 times a night and rejecting all 20. Allow her, at least at this stage in the game, to be the huntress. Your carefree joy, wealth and success represented by the stylish clothes, watch and shoes, are the bait… a most effective one in FSU. Even if you aren’t approached early, getting exposure at this stage and ignoring all the ladies will make your approach later in the evening easier as she will have the flattering impression that she is somehow special and SHE scored a player.
7) “le Artiste”: I like this one, appealing to the romantic nature of girls without being sappy, and instead obsessing about art, photography and capturing the beauty of the moment. There is a little Total Rapture in it, but in fact you are not focused on the female, but rather on enjoying life itself…to the point of gluttony. This self-confident obsessive behavior appeals to many girls and they become fascinated by it. If she is interested, it is usually not too difficult to convince her to pose for “art”. If she is willing to pose for art, she is willing to fuck you.
Numerous additional tactics also come into use, and I am certain that most mongers have applied the above in some variation when developing their own techniques. Notable ones that I never apply that come to mind are the “Millionaire Playboy”, “Heartbroken”, “the Idiot Tourist”, "El Guapo", “Dance Academy” and “Talent Scout”.
Notoriously ineffective in FSU are “Shy Guy”, “Urban Cowboy” and “the Home Video Librarian”.
Although having a plan is a good idea and I really do apply them in one form or another, it's important to remember that in love and war, when the shooting starts, the original battle plan often goes out the window.Adapting to field conditions is the true art of mongering.
My friend talks about techniques efficient in East Europe and FSU.
In his list, my personal tactic would be "The Player". Yours ?
Here is an incomplete definition of tactical terminology:
1) The Octopus: This is the classic flirting method in FSU and EE. The Octopus simply means you should pretend you have 8 arms and just grope and grovel all over her until she finally:
a) gets all wet and excited and can’t stop herself
b) goes into toxic shock and can no longer resist
This is really one of the top methods and should be mastered with simple practice. Works best with very young girls who are curious + carefree or “girls” over 30 who are happy to get any attention at all. Recent field tests have revealed a new Octopus Tactic resistant strain of 20ish dyevki populating a number of Moscow clubs. These can often be defeated by utilizing the Octopus on Tequila tactic, but caution is recommended. You never know where this might lead. When Octopus isn’t functioning, you may want to try another favorite of mine:
2) The Schizo: Originally developed to woo over a surprisingly nervous and inexperienced 36 year old kindergarden teacher by asking her to let the young curious girl in her out, it was redeveloped and proved most effective in convincing young, nervous and uncertain girls (often with religious beliefs or living with babushka) to explore their femininity. In many cases, the uncertain, nervous girl turned out to be a cock-hungry demonka with an insatiable desire to bone and suck.
The Schizo is simple. When you realize she is uncertain about what she should do, you become “Mr.Understanding” and enquire about her uncertainty. Perhaps her apparent uncertainty is merely faux morality that is easily decoded or perhaps it is indeed the dreaded M word. Morality. Morality is notoriously contagious, so it is best to avoid her girlfriends, at least until you’ve done the deed at least once and she is immune to morality and forever your on-call fuckbunny.
Anyway, so you enquire about her uncertainty, and develop the conversation in such a way that you compare her uncertainty with the behavior of a little girl. This will likely make her feel slightly embarrassed, and you suggest that she is schizo and cannot decide if she is a little girl or a young woman.
Note: I don’t suggest actually using the word “schizo” when describing her “condition” to her. Unexpected negative results may occur..
If you have selected the right tactic and applied it at the right time (for example after 5 Baileys) she will be cast into a turmoil of inner conflict, fighting her own embarrassment for being so uncosmopolitan while at the same time asking herself if she indeed does need to “do more” (do more guys) to become a real woman.
It is a risky tactic, as if it doesn’t work right away it may create mental blockage in the female and she may remain in a near paralysis state of laming schizophrenia for the course of the evening, blocking your 10 and 12 pm fuck time slots and effectively ruining your evening.
3) The Exorcist: The Exorcist means “getting the demon out”. It isn’t a true exorcism, as ultimately you want that little demon of debauchery to stay in her, but you do need to conjure it out of her to release her sexual hunger. Rather than the full-fledged Octopus assault (or perhaps as a change of tactics when she fends off the Octopus), the Exorcist requires some (but really remarkably little) insight into the female psyche. You must find that “button” that turns her on and push it repeatedly. Sometimes that button is a clit and one must make digital or oral contact to activate it, sometimes it is the often-ignored tits, which is a key erogenous zone for a large percentage of women.
During my exorcisms I like to apply neck kisses, some light biting, firm yet discreet ass-grabbing and the outbursts of passionate kissing set in contrast to teasing playful almost kisses. The TPaKs are really a fine technique. Drives girls wild.
The Exorcist may be applied in conjunction with other techniques to achieve maximum sexual results.
4) Total Rapture: When applying Total Rapture you must be certain of the nature of your targets romantic nature. Total Rapture should only be applied to very romantic girls who at least need some semblance of romance and love before spreading. Total Rapture is not for the timid, Total Rapture involves extensive lying and the delicate application of half-truths and the extremely effective TLT, the Temporary Love Transition, this zen-like condition in which you temporarily actually believe that you are in love with the girl and you apply all the corny romantic clichés you can cough up. I really don’t like this tactic, despite its effectiveness, as it involves syrupy lies and saying things guys just really don’t like to say. Not necessarily using the catastrophic L word, but certainly lots of “your eyes are like sapphires”, “at this moment we are alone in the universe, our souls come closer” and “I need to be near you, now and always” bullshit. Some girls, usually extremely boring and sexually inhibited, really require this tactic…and hearing these words.
The danger in randomly applying Total Rapture is that you may inadvertently scare off a girl who doesn’t want to get serious fast but just wants sexual adventure, you may turn off a girl who likes tough, direct men as opposed to hyper-romantic neo-poets (a common desire among Russian women is for men to be direct and aggressive) or you may accidentally create the impression of a serious relationship in her dyev brain. This may very well change her behavior to your disliking and ruin your week.
In my opinion, Total Rapture generally should be applied as a supplement to other tactics, but not be the focal point of your assault. Nonetheless, I have had to apply it in full force upon occasion. I simply had no choice.
5) The Hand Grenade in the Fish Tank: When in a target rich environment, such as 111 or Karma Bar, you can afford to MIRV your approach and hit multiple targets early in an effort to reveal their nature and avoid late night disappointments. The idea behind it is to hit many targets early and hope that of the 10-15 you hit, you’ll get 3-5 that bite and ultimately have to merely select your concussion stunned victim and drag her home. This isn’t one of my favorite tactics, nor is it a favorite of RM, but I do know many guys who apply it with occasional, and sometimes remarkable, success. It is a fun tactic as well, as it is fairly easy and you meet a lot of people. I suggest using this tactic early in the evening or during the peak of the evening, while crowds are still large.
Using this one late night as a bottom-feeding technique will bag the occasional lonely and/or drunk bird, however it could also make you look really pathetic as you chat up every single girl in the place and everybody observes you being shot down repeatedly. If you are achieving no success with the tactic at all, it may in fact be best to go to a different club and start off with a clean slate.
One should avoid using this tactic in the same premises on consecutive weekends or nights. Especially in smaller clubs, you will soon develop a reputation that will hinder your success.
6) The Player: This works best with an equal caliber wingman and involves ignoring most every girl in the place and audibly having a good time with your mate, drinking cocktails and enjoying yourself as if you didn’t have a care in the world, or better yet, owned it. You’ll get attention and your aloofness will intrigue them. Best applied with stylish and refined clothes, power watch, nice shoes, ect. If your patience holds, you will likely get approached in some way by the ladies after some time. This is an effective tactic especially with more sophisticated and better-looking girls… the kind who are used to getting hit on 20 times a night and rejecting all 20. Allow her, at least at this stage in the game, to be the huntress. Your carefree joy, wealth and success represented by the stylish clothes, watch and shoes, are the bait… a most effective one in FSU. Even if you aren’t approached early, getting exposure at this stage and ignoring all the ladies will make your approach later in the evening easier as she will have the flattering impression that she is somehow special and SHE scored a player.
7) “le Artiste”: I like this one, appealing to the romantic nature of girls without being sappy, and instead obsessing about art, photography and capturing the beauty of the moment. There is a little Total Rapture in it, but in fact you are not focused on the female, but rather on enjoying life itself…to the point of gluttony. This self-confident obsessive behavior appeals to many girls and they become fascinated by it. If she is interested, it is usually not too difficult to convince her to pose for “art”. If she is willing to pose for art, she is willing to fuck you.
Numerous additional tactics also come into use, and I am certain that most mongers have applied the above in some variation when developing their own techniques. Notable ones that I never apply that come to mind are the “Millionaire Playboy”, “Heartbroken”, “the Idiot Tourist”, "El Guapo", “Dance Academy” and “Talent Scout”.
Notoriously ineffective in FSU are “Shy Guy”, “Urban Cowboy” and “the Home Video Librarian”.
Although having a plan is a good idea and I really do apply them in one form or another, it's important to remember that in love and war, when the shooting starts, the original battle plan often goes out the window.Adapting to field conditions is the true art of mongering.
