[upandcoming1]

any of yu guys use that to get a buzz. its pretti popular out here where i am. ib was just curious which ones are safe because i heard they can make ur lungs bleed.

by the way i did have a blog post on kava kava which is a herb it works ok for a buzz. there is also skull but i didnt enjoy that lol. catnip tea ehh not enough experience. anyway let me know wat u guys think.

[OGNorCal707]

Man fuck that shit, I never heard about it, until I read two articles in the Wash Post, and NY Times, why the fuck you going to smoke fake weed, when you can smoke the real thing? I was reading that 3 grams of the fake stuff called K2 or spice can sell for $50, isn't that the same price for an eighth of some decent bud where most people live? I can understand the ease of walking into a store to buy it vs. needing a connect for a "dealer" to buy real bud, but in this day in age, buying herb shouldn't be an issue. I think some people are just so brainwashed by society that because it's legal it must be okay, where as marijuana still has a lot of negative connotations or misconceptions.

No one has ever gone insane from smoking real herb, or gotten real sick, died, etc., I don't understand why people are fucking with this fake "K2" bud stuff...? Legalization is fucking up peoples bread making out here in Cali., but for real shit should be legal. Too bad the rest of the U.S. is fucking stupid, where I live I can get a doctor's recommendation for medical marijuana and legally grow up to 100 plants. Herb is sold in cannabis clubs, that are on almost every corner in most cities in CA, shit is basically legal, the other week me and my homies were toking a joint right in front of the bar when police was approaching us, homie started to put it away, and I was like, "naw fuck that shit, we're all medical, those pigs can suck my dick". They po-po walked right up to us, gave us a look, took in a breath of our chronic, and kept on walking, we straight laughed at those fools.

[InternationPlayboy]

Man, Colorado is becoming just like Cali. In fact some of my friends who worked at canibus clubs in San Fran and LA say that our scene is almost bigger than your guys' out here in Denver. People are cashing in big time on that shit. We counted 30 pages in a row of the Denver weekly that had medical marijuana adds on it. I live in a town of 5000 people and there are 4 medical shops. We have adds all over our paper even that say, "Visit Dr.______ and get your lisence for only $100," it's wild. I've had multiple encounters with police out here for weed, including lighting a joint up in the middle of a busy street right in front of 2 by accident. They just looked at me, shook their heads, and watched me walk by. Fuck getting medical though. I'll take the $150 ticket IF the cop decides to bust me. I get better herb on the street anyways. Good luck getting life insurance or getting a real good job. The man can trace that shit. I know the people at the shops tell you they can't, but they can. I'm still suprised that out here with it being legal and all, that we don't have very good quality herb. The stuff I get in Vegas (Which I would say at least half comes from Cali) is WAY better. The "High quality" herb out here is at best as good as mid grade in Vegas. When I tell people in Colorado that, they think I'm full of shit.

[wi30]

That spice shit is garbage. My buddy picked some up just to try it and you're better off sticking to bud. It tastes horrible and barely goes down and the buzz was like taking a weak painkiller. It's also way more expensive.

[gringoed]

Imitation bud sounds stupid. Try salvia, though.

[InternationPlayboy]

(07-22-2010 11:58 PM)gringoed Wrote:  

Imitation bud sounds stupid. Try salvia, though.

I hear that shit is horrible

[Abraxas]

(07-24-2010 04:48 PM)Brandon E Wrote:  

(07-22-2010 11:58 PM)gringoed Wrote:  

Imitation bud sounds stupid. Try salvia, though.

I hear that shit is horrible

In my opinion, it's a worthwhile experience, especially if you're interested in testing the boundaries of reality. There are no words that can properly describe the experience of breaking through on salvia.

[OGNorCal707]

Salvia never did it for me. If you're going to smoke it you need to get the highest extact possible, I think they go up to 30X or 50X. Now 100% organically extracted DMT from the Acacia vine, smoking that is another story, it is a mystical/spiritual/visionary experience. The first time I tried salvia was in high school, we smoked some of the dry leaves my friend ordered off the internet out a bong, I remember the taste being horrible and the smoke being extremely harsh, hurting my lungs and making me cough like I was going to die. It gave me the worst headache of my life and I had a loud, intense, ringing in my ear sensation, unfortunately no positive psychadelic aspects.

[Abraxas]

(07-24-2010 07:20 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Salvia never did it for me. If you're going to smoke it you need to get the highest extact possible, I think they go up to 30X or 50X.

A lot of people that I've talked to have reported a similar experience, that salvia just "didn't work for them." A lot of times, the reason for this is the use of plain dry leaf, which was the case for you. I highly recommend using extract, though anything over 20x (I recommend 10x personally) is completely unnecessary and will result in an "amnesiac" experience, meaning that it is so intense and far removed from this reality that it will be immediately forgotten upon returning to ordinary waking consciousness, as if you had simply blacked out for a moment. Another mistake that a lot of salvia users make is to smoke it out of a pipe with a standard Bic or Zippo lighter. While this can produce noticeable effects, by far the most effective way to induce a breakthrough experience is to smoke it out a bong so that you're inhaling the greatest amount of smoke as quickly as possible, and to light the bowl with a butane lighter or torch. While a regular flame can work, salvia leaf needs to be burned at a certain temperate for all of the chemicals to be fully released, and this simply can't be achieved with a regular flame. The final and arguably most important step in breaking through is to make absolutely sure you hold the smoke in your lungs for 20-30 seconds.

If you follow these instructions exactly as I've outlined them, you will break through, and I can almost guarantee that it will be one of the strangest and most memorable experiences of your life. The weird thing about it though is that the salvia realm is so far removed from our everyday experience that once you come down, you'll understand that words are completely insufficient to describe what has happened to you. One of my friends who came over to my house to try it (using the method that I described above) was unable to speak for a whole hour after coming down. Though it is relatively safe and usually lasts no longer than 5 minutes (though it feels like eternity), salvia is serious shit.

[Abraxas]

P.S. - I'm envious of the fact that you've gotten to try DMT, OG. I've been getting very interested in it as of late, having been introduced to the writings of Terrence McKenna and other counterculture gurus. It sounds like an amazing experience. I can't wait to try it.