[soup]

(04-07-2013 02:50 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 02:30 AM)soup Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 08:03 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 07:35 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Bigger shock for me was how few girls insist on using them.

I "came of age" in the AIDS era.

Now girls are raw dogging like crazy.

Yeah.

That is why we have True Game.

We had to convince girls to have sex with us, and convince them they weren't going to die.

And kids today think they have it rough.

Almost all my notches last year were raw dog. That's close to forty notches of pure, unadulterated casual sex.

I don't recommend this. That said, I got tested in January and I have nothing. In my life time I've let over a hundred girls experience my cock. I'm 33.

I banged an older broad two nights ago raw and she on her period. She had good tits for her age.

When I get drunk, I almost always do it raw. I don't like this because I think I might get an STD soon. I don't know what to believe.

Who gives a fuck? If getting an STD is the price to pay for 100+ notches of unprotected sex, wouldn't you say that's worth it?

My father is still alive. I don't want to die from an STD before he dies.

But my point is that, maybe STDs aren't as relevant as they were in the 1990's (let's talk about sex). I have a friend whose hey day as a player was the late 1990's. Now he has a few different dick ailments including herpes. Suffices to say, he's constantly in his head when it hoing up with girls now.

[Hotwheels]

I got a wart froze off in the 90's.

Big deal.

Yes, the 90's rocked.

At the same time a slut is passed out in my bed.

The 90's were still easier.....

[beaversarefun]

(04-07-2013 02:50 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Who gives a fuck? If getting an STD is the price to pay for 100+ notches of unprotected sex, wouldn't you say that's worth it?

My opinion: Its not worth it, considering the fact that you not only put yourself in danger of contracting a (fatal) STD, but may also pass it on unknowingly to a great number of other people, who themselves may then go on and spread it further by copying the very same irresponsible behaviour you encouraged when you decided to go raw.
I wouldn't want to be part of that.

For me its no glove, no love. Simple as that. As far as Im concerned, Im more afraid of impregnating a girl than getting a nasty STD, but the consequences are the same.

[Screwston]

(04-07-2013 02:55 AM)soup Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 02:50 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 02:30 AM)soup Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 08:03 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(04-06-2013 07:35 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Bigger shock for me was how few girls insist on using them.

I "came of age" in the AIDS era.

Now girls are raw dogging like crazy.

Yeah.

That is why we have True Game.

We had to convince girls to have sex with us, and convince them they weren't going to die.

And kids today think they have it rough.

Almost all my notches last year were raw dog. That's close to forty notches of pure, unadulterated casual sex.

I don't recommend this. That said, I got tested in January and I have nothing. In my life time I've let over a hundred girls experience my cock. I'm 33.

I banged an older broad two nights ago raw and she on her period. She had good tits for her age.

When I get drunk, I almost always do it raw. I don't like this because I think I might get an STD soon. I don't know what to believe.

Who gives a fuck? If getting an STD is the price to pay for 100+ notches of unprotected sex, wouldn't you say that's worth it?

My father is still alive. I don't want to die from an STD before he dies.

But my point is that, maybe STDs aren't as relevant as they were in the 1990's (let's talk about sex). I have a friend whose hey day as a player was the late 1990's. Now he has a few different dick ailments including herpes. Suffices to say, he's constantly in his head when it hoing up with girls now.

What other ailments does he have?

[soup]

I think he had warts and maybe the clap. He said he had to get a test where the doctor would stick something in his dick hole.

Surprisingly enough, he was able to convince his hot girlfriend to let him fuck her raw after disclosing all this.

[Samseau]

(04-07-2013 08:51 AM)soup Wrote:  

I think he had warts and maybe the clap. He said he had to get a test where the doctor would stick something in his dick hole.

Surprisingly enough, he was able to convince his hot girlfriend to let him fuck her raw after disclosing all this.

I had a buddy whose girlfriend had herpes. They fucked raw for almost 3 years together. He never got herpes. It's really easy to avoid. Don't fuck when having an outbreak.

beaversarefun Wrote:

My opinion: Its not worth it, considering the fact that you not only put yourself in danger of contracting a (fatal) STD, but may also pass it on unknowingly to a great number of other people, who themselves may then go on and spread it further by copying the very same irresponsible behaviour you encouraged when you decided to go raw.
I wouldn't want to be part of that.

Catching a fatal STD is as rare as being in an airplane crash. Do you still fly in airplanes?

And remember, condoms will not stop you from catching molluscum (I've had this one), herpes, warts, or syphilis.

Of the STD's condoms do prevent, all of them are curable with the exception of AIDS. And you aren't going to get AIDS unless you start getting fucked in the ass.

It's honestly EVERYONE's duty to get checked every few months or after every 10 partners, REGARDLESS of condom usage. So many STD's spread independently of condoms.

If people didn't use condoms but got checked frequently and regularly en masse, STDs would be a thing of the past.

[soup]

(04-07-2013 10:24 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 08:51 AM)soup Wrote:  

I think he had warts and maybe the clap. He said he had to get a test where the doctor would stick something in his dick hole.

Surprisingly enough, he was able to convince his hot girlfriend to let him fuck her raw after disclosing all this.

I had a buddy whose girlfriend had herpes. They fucked raw for almost 3 years together. He never got herpes. It's really easy to avoid. Don't fuck when having an outbreak.

beaversarefun Wrote:

My opinion: Its not worth it, considering the fact that you not only put yourself in danger of contracting a (fatal) STD, but may also pass it on unknowingly to a great number of other people, who themselves may then go on and spread it further by copying the very same irresponsible behaviour you encouraged when you decided to go raw.
I wouldn't want to be part of that.

Catching a fatal STD is as rare as being in an airplane crash. Do you still fly in airplanes?

And remember, condoms will not stop you from catching molluscum (I've had this one), herpes, warts, or syphilis.

Of the STD's condoms do prevent, all of them are curable with the exception of AIDS. And you aren't going to get AIDS unless you start getting fucked in the ass.

It's honestly EVERYONE's duty to get checked every few months or after every 10 partners, REGARDLESS of condom usage. So many STD's spread independently of condoms.

If people didn't use condoms but got checked frequently and regularly en masse, STDs would be a thing of the past.

Great post. Thanks for the info. I hope you are right. I feel better.

[Veloce]

As a followup to my comment, I'm in soup's camp, minus the high notch count (I'm halfway there)

It's been a long time since I've worn a condom. And it's getting worse with age; I just can't be bothered to care. Every new notch puts up this facade of caring, but once I get my dick in them raw there's zero protest. I tell them I got tested a few weeks ago, I'm clean, and 99% of the time we're good to go. And even then, due to some insane girl logic, even if I do wear a condom the first time, somehow they're okay with it raw the second.

It's been said; your biggest concern is pregnancy. I've gotten a few girls pregnant and they've all gotten abortions. I've also gotten the clap, and that shit is no big deal.

Raw for life.

[WestCoast]

(04-07-2013 11:16 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

As a followup to my comment, I'm in soup's camp, minus the high notch count (I'm halfway there)

It's been a long time since I've worn a condom. And it's getting worse with age; I just can't be bothered to care. Every new notch puts up this facade of caring, but once I get my dick in them raw there's zero protest. I tell them I got tested a few weeks ago, I'm clean, and 99% of the time we're good to go. And even then, due to some insane girl logic, even if I do wear a condom the first time, somehow they're okay with it raw the second.

It's been said; your biggest concern is pregnancy. I've gotten a few girls pregnant and they've all gotten abortions. I've also gotten the clap, and that shit is no big deal.

Raw for life.

I love how this turned into a raw vs condom debate. Awesome.

Much respect to those guys who go raw all the time, no where near ready to be risking one of those million dollar liabilities on a first go though.

One of the girls I was seeing 2 years ago tried to trick me into getting her prego, she was "on the pill" then her friend informed me she stopped as a warning. That girl who saved me from getting a kid is now one of my best friends.

[Kabal]

(04-07-2013 11:16 AM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

As a followup to my comment, I'm in soup's camp, minus the high notch count (I'm halfway there)

It's been a long time since I've worn a condom. And it's getting worse with age; I just can't be bothered to care. Every new notch puts up this facade of caring, but once I get my dick in them raw there's zero protest. I tell them I got tested a few weeks ago, I'm clean, and 99% of the time we're good to go. And even then, due to some insane girl logic, even if I do wear a condom the first time, somehow they're okay with it raw the second.

It's been said; your biggest concern is pregnancy. I've gotten a few girls pregnant and they've all gotten abortions. I've also gotten the clap, and that shit is no big deal.

Raw for life.

I think of it from a Bayesian perspective--each instance where I rawdog a girl and don't get an STD increases the probability that I'm superhuman and immune to STDs.

[beaversarefun]

I know it will sound lame to many, but let me say this: A general no-protection policy will encourage girls to sleep around with other guys and not use protection. Soon enough, those girls wont even think about asking a guy to put on a CD. While its no big deal as far as your personal affairs are concerned, look at the big picture. The consequences will be an increased number of STDs (including an increased prevalence of HIV) as well as an increased number of unexpected (or rather undesired) pregnancies. And personally, I don't want that to happen, thats why I wont contribute to it.

It bugs me every time I have to put on a CD, but since I chose to be promiscuous, thats something I make myself deal with.

[Kabal]

(04-07-2013 11:55 AM)beaversarefun Wrote:  

I know it will sound lame to many, but let me say this: A general no-protection policy will encourage girls to sleep around with other guys and not use protection. Soon enough, those girls wont even think about asking a guy to put on a CD. While its no big deal as far as your personal affairs are concerned, look at the big picture. The consequences will be an increased number of STDs (including an increased prevalence of HIV) as well as an increased number of unexpected (or rather undesired) pregnancies. And personally, I don't want that to happen, thats why I wont contribute to it.

It bugs me every time I have to put on a CD, but since I chose to be promiscuous, thats something I make myself deal with.

Yeah, there's an element of Prisoner's Dilemma at play. Like the Paradox of Thrift for raw-dogging.

[Veloce]

(04-07-2013 11:55 AM)beaversarefun Wrote:  

I know it will sound lame to many, but let me say this: A general no-protection policy will encourage girls to sleep around with other guys and not use protection. Soon enough, those girls wont even think about asking a guy to put on a CD. While its no big deal as far as your personal affairs are concerned, look at the big picture. The consequences will be an increased number of STDs (including an increased prevalence of HIV) as well as an increased number of unexpected (or rather undesired) pregnancies. And personally, I don't want that to happen, thats why I wont contribute to it.

It bugs me every time I have to put on a CD, but since I chose to be promiscuous, thats something I make myself deal with.

Logically and in theory you're correct.

But real world practice tells me that condom wearing is just another shit test. If a bunch of dudes passes a girls shit tests, does she stop shit testing? No, and if anything they get worse.

Sure, some guys will get past the shit test, guys like me who know better. But I'm willing to bet most guys that get with her will succumb to her request of condom-wearing.

[MikeCF]

I've never not had a girl come back for more after raw dogging (and finishing inside her). Seriously, it's at 100%.

When you are a virile man, your sperm contains drugs that make them want more.

http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/hea...depressant

When I wear a condom, my return rate is still high but is not 100%.

I'll bet a lot of you guys have noticed a similar pattern, right?

[Veloce]

yep.

[void]

whats the point of fucking, when you have to do coitus interuptus while raw to not get her pregnant?
i would miss thrusting to orgasm inside her, even if its with a condom

[MrXY]

Quote:

Posted by soup - Today 10:51 AM
I think he had warts and maybe the clap. He said he had to get a test where the doctor would stick something in his dick hole.

It's a long q-tip basically-it feels weird and a bit uncomfortable but is no big deal really.

Quote:

Posted by MikeCF - Today 03:21 PM
I've never not had a girl come back for more after raw dogging (and finishing inside her). Seriously, it's at 100%.

When you are a virile man, your sperm contains drugs that make them want more.

http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/hea...depressant

When I wear a condom, my return rate is still high but is not 100%.

I'll bet a lot of you guys have noticed a similar pattern, right?

Yes, but it's not worth the risk of pregnancy and how that can fuck up your life. Which is why I raw dog and pull out if I think there's any realistic chance she could get pregnant.

A few months ago, i picked up a woman at a bar who said she had separated from her husband three weeks before. When we undressed, she made a point to show me her hysterectomy scar; I understood why later. We banged three times- each time, as we were reaching a crescendo, she began yelling "Cum inside me. cum inside me!" I guess she wanted that semen boost and figured that if I was worried about her getting pregnant I wouldn't give it to her (which was true).

I used to buy into the scaremongering about STDS, but once I researched it for myself I discovered that there's a lot of hype and exaggeration going on from the government and various advocacy groups.Here's what I think :

Warts, molluscum and similar- annoying, but common and treatable, and many people don't develop symptoms

Gonorrhea -treatable and you'll know you have it

Syphilis- serious but rare in my target demographic, also noticeable and treatable

Herpes- second biggest concern, but mostly contagious during an outbreak. I already have oral herpes(cold sore) so I know it's really a nuisance more than anything and outbreaks are infrequent. Plus having herpes -1 means that I have antibodies that are effective against the very similar (genital) herpes-2 virus making it less likely for me to get infected and if I did the symptoms to be much milder

AIDS- very minimal concern-male to female transmission is very unlikely in the North American context and the rate of AIDS is extremely low in my target demographic

Pregnancy-huge concern of mine-which is why I use the pull out method.

Long Live the Raw Dog

[Screwston]

(04-07-2013 08:51 AM)soup Wrote:  

I think he had warts and maybe the clap. He said he had to get a test where the doctor would stick something in his dick hole.

Surprisingly enough, he was able to convince his hot girlfriend to let him fuck her raw after disclosing all this.

The clap is curable with pills. Doctors don't stick the q tip down your piss hole anymore, they make you piss in a cup. You just sound paranoid.

[soup]

(04-07-2013 09:08 PM)houston Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 08:51 AM)soup Wrote:  

I think he had warts and maybe the clap. He said he had to get a test where the doctor would stick something in his dick hole.

Surprisingly enough, he was able to convince his hot girlfriend to let him fuck her raw after disclosing all this.

The clap is curable with pills. Doctors don't stick the q tip down your piss hole anymore, they make you piss in a cup. You just sound paranoid.

No they stuck something down his dick hole a couple years ago. He doesn't have insurance and went to a clinic in the Bronx. Maybe they use old technology.

[Giovonny]

I keep my condoms in my socks.

[bojangles]

I keep one in my card holder, a few in different blazers/suit jackets, jeans, I think every item of clothing has a condom stashed in it somewhere, laundry is a fucking pain

[dotbiz]

(04-06-2013 01:59 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

I keep them out in the open.

That just reminded me of a situation when I was 17 or 18 and pretty inexperienced at that time:

Me and an Asian friend who probably had a crush on me where about to sleep at her female friends place. The friend was a dancer at clubs, quite a hottie by my standards at that time. Next to her bed she had a large bowl full of all kind of different condoms. Haha, I haven't seen something like this at a girls place ever again.

All three of us went to bed, with me being in the middle. The dancer girl (also approx. 17 years old) was quite the freak and although she had a ~25y BF who was a bouncer she started making out with me while the Asian chick pretended to be sleeping. I did only get a hand job though.

I had no idea of game by that time, heck game was years away from being brought to public. When the blue pill me asked her why she did this although she had a BF she answered: "I was curious". I think she just enjoyed seeing how she could play with me or men in general.

The Asian chick was very weird the next day and cut off contact after that

Back to the thread topic: I think while a girl can pull this move with a bowl full of condoms, men better don't do this. At my place I have the condoms in the drawer of the bedside table. If the action takes place in another room of my apartment I usually simply guide the girl to the bedroom if it's a first lay, otherwise I'll go and get the condoms quickly.

[dotbiz]

(04-08-2013 03:03 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I keep my condoms in my socks.

In all seriousness? When you go out you have them there the whole night?

[beaversarefun]

How about one of these on your shelf? Give it the right paint job and you got yourself a nice new accessoire for your bachelor pad.

[soup]

(04-07-2013 10:24 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(04-07-2013 08:51 AM)soup Wrote:  

I think he had warts and maybe the clap. He said he had to get a test where the doctor would stick something in his dick hole.

Surprisingly enough, he was able to convince his hot girlfriend to let him fuck her raw after disclosing all this.

I had a buddy whose girlfriend had herpes. They fucked raw for almost 3 years together. He never got herpes. It's really easy to avoid. Don't fuck when having an outbreak.

beaversarefun Wrote:

My opinion: Its not worth it, considering the fact that you not only put yourself in danger of contracting a (fatal) STD, but may also pass it on unknowingly to a great number of other people, who themselves may then go on and spread it further by copying the very same irresponsible behaviour you encouraged when you decided to go raw.
I wouldn't want to be part of that.

Catching a fatal STD is as rare as being in an airplane crash. Do you still fly in airplanes?

And remember, condoms will not stop you from catching molluscum (I've had this one), herpes, warts, or syphilis.

Of the STD's condoms do prevent, all of them are curable with the exception of AIDS. And you aren't going to get AIDS unless you start getting fucked in the ass.

It's honestly EVERYONE's duty to get checked every few months or after every 10 partners, REGARDLESS of condom usage. So many STD's spread independently of condoms.

If people didn't use condoms but got checked frequently and regularly en masse, STDs would be a thing of the past.

Wait, I thought you can't cure herpes.