[amity]

(03-25-2013 01:47 AM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

@iknowexactly Here is a real example. I was at a restaurant where the crowd is usually from mid-thirties to 50+. I see this very hot young girl sitting at a table with two other young girls. I thought they were around 20. At one point, two of them left the table and only one was sitting there. I approached her and said I can't believe her friends left her here all alone with a smile. We started talking and it turns out she is in high school! Anyway, to cut the story short. The friends came back and I sat down and we all started talking. They were all in high school! They claimed to be 18 but who knows. They wanted me to get them drinks. At no point did the issue of my age come up. I was able to have a regular conversation with them just like I would with a 25+ woman. I do look younger than I am but I certainly look well over 30. In Europe, forget it, I have really young girls requesting to be my girlfriend. As long as you keep in shape and have a youthful mentally you're in. A lot of the times, I am more of a kid than these girls because I just have this playful personality.
PS Why were they at that restaurant? They like 80s music. I was pretty sure I could have asked them to meet up again but the hot one was from Slovakia and already a pain in the ass from living here too long.

this is key
i know some ugly ass motherfukkers who've slayed chicks way above their level purely cos they how exactly how to interact with women in a playful way

[deathtofatties]

(03-24-2013 06:09 PM)flow Wrote:  

trying to figure out what it is about an older man that young girls are not into. I have dated 18 yo girls in the past, from the time I was 30 till now at 40. and I have been shot down twice recently. a 19 yo girl I number closed and finally after text tag we went out and she found out I was 40 and bounced.
she guessed my age at 22 (I made her guess) then I told her I was 40..she said that was kinda old, and turned tail and bounced.
just what is it about a 40 yo man that young girls are not into...

or, should I care and just keep truckin...thanks.

Just keep it a secret until after you've fucked her. Lie if you have to. Age is just a bullshit number, so her acting like that proves she is unworthy of the truth.

[CJ_W]

(03-24-2013 06:09 PM)flow Wrote:  

trying to figure out what it is about an older man that young girls are not into. I have dated 18 yo girls in the past, from the time I was 30 till now at 40. and I have been shot down twice recently. a 19 yo girl I number closed and finally after text tag we went out and she found out I was 40 and bounced.
she guessed my age at 22 (I made her guess) then I told her I was 40..she said that was kinda old, and turned tail and bounced.
just what is it about a 40 yo man that young girls are not into...

or, should I care and just keep truckin...thanks.

Its most likely that her father was young when she was growing up, so she's the type of woman that doesn't like older guys because of that.

Usually, women who had older fathers growing up like older men.

Really lots of younger girls LOVE older men, its just that there are also lots of younger girls that don't. So if you don't worry about your age, and just say it like its a natural thing, if she likes older guys you'll get her most likely.

Thing is, if you worry about your age, you lose your confidence that may have drew her in in the first place. Women feel that and get turned off by that. So as long as its not a big deal to you, she won't feel its a big deal (if she's into older guys)

Theres probably a lot of young women that like older guys that you meet everyday, but you don't see if because you worry about your age.

Listen, You can bone young American Women (18-24ish)until you're about 55 or so (depending on how you take care of yourself) after that, you should have enough money to live in Thailand and get you a young Thai wife on some beach paradise and live happy for the rest of your days haha.

[snoop]

You don't have to lie, you also don't have to answer straight up, b/c its a ridiculous thing to ask someone you recently met....just act like its a stupid question, laugh about and it keep being playful and moving the conversation along

Another tactic is to put em on the defensive and playfully ask them things like "How much do you weigh?"

[Giovonny]

(03-24-2013 06:09 PM)flow Wrote:  

what it is about an older man that young girls are not into.

This is a false statement.

Younger girls love older men.

Of course, nothing is true 100% of the time.

2 girls don't like you and now you think you can make a "blanket statement" that covers all younger girls?!?

(03-24-2013 06:09 PM)flow Wrote:  

or, should I care and just keep truckin...thanks.

Yes, you should not care and "just on truckin"

The next 2 young girls you meet might like you..

You are focused on failure. You should be focused on success!

[StudebacherHoch]

Great points brought up - at 57, I look at least ten years younger, but I still NEVER disclose my age - even with MILFs...I just keep in mind how MIFFED they would be if I asked THEM their age. I take my queue from the late comedian Jack Benny, who always "insisted" he was 39 with a smirk on his face!

[Cousin Dupree]

I'm 50 and recently had a thing with a really hot 28yo. When I first got her out, she brought up in conversation that she was 28 and casually asked my age. I could tell that she had been curious and maybe had been thinking about it. I joked that I was 75. She went along with the joke and said that I was pretty good for that age. I said, "Yes, well, I moisturize." She laughed and it never came up again.

I agree with the previous poster who said that if I had said the number, she would have compared to the age of her parents, etc.

[robreke]

(03-24-2013 06:09 PM)flow Wrote:  

trying to figure out what it is about an older man that young girls are not into. I have dated 18 yo girls in the past, from the time I was 30 till now at 40. and I have been shot down twice recently. a 19 yo girl I number closed and finally after text tag we went out and she found out I was 40 and bounced.
she guessed my age at 22 (I made her guess) then I told her I was 40..she said that was kinda old, and turned tail and bounced.
just what is it about a 40 yo man that young girls are not into...

or, should I care and just keep truckin...thanks.

Ask them to guess...like you did. Then, when she says "22" or "30" or whatever it is that's younger than your real age....look at her kind of like you're impressed and say "wow I'm impressed...that's awesome." or some such.....then, maybe hold up your fist for a fist bump. This creates the impression that she guessed your age right and you are just saying you're impressed and not outright lying. Then, immediately say...how old are you? Or if you already know....just say...."so, you're 19? The last girl I dated was 19.....no, wait...she just had a birthday last month....she's 20 now." Then, proceed with banter per normal game.......

[iknowexactly]

(04-01-2013 10:55 AM)Cousin Dupree Wrote:  

I'm 50 and recently had a thing with a really hot 28yo.

You might well have more years of fertility left than she does. (Perhaps 12 versus 8)

Don't buy into feminist BS. 35 is not really a "fine" age for women to have kids.

[Green-On-GO]

I'm 43 divorced after 12 years of marriage, a father and a Veteran ...I seem to meet nothing but women in their 20's, lately..
Meanwhile my fellow work mates in their 20's are being picked up by corporate women in their 30's and 40's who buy them drinks and chase them down...I've seen it with my own eyes ..I don't consider myself a ladies man by any standard.I work out crossfit style and I am young at heart.I don't dress like an old man but I don't follow fashion.....fashion is for people without style..I also try to maintain standards which I get hell for from my mates but I want what I want...
I think however this MILF ,Cougar thing is really helping us older guys..I was in Spain last year and the oldest women I slept with was 26...I picked up a young English women in a Barca pub start kissing her and she pushes me away and says 'How old are you"?
I say 42 how old are you?
She says 24..
I say oh well my Ex wife's boyfriend is 26 ( a lie)...bang she lights up and we're back into it.Reason being the pub was swept clean by Swedish MILF only interested in young blokes.
God bless MILF/Cougars they are our friends...So many young blokes seem to be into the Cougar/MILF porn fetish...I say I'm FILF to the young ladies...it gets a laugh now and then.But I'm not chasing younger women,I just don't care and it seems to happen.

The main issue with young women her at home I'm finding is I don't know what the hell they are talking about which shows me up.I seem to mess up if i try txt... but they are giving me their numbers and that is a good thing I reckon....With women my age I feel like the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan just getting mowed down as I step off the boat..I'm really time poor if anything.I don't want a girlfriend all I want to do is enjoy myself while I can and raise my kids best as I can...Also travel ,thanks to reading this forum I'm off to Budapest in a few weeks then back to Spain with some mates then Prague...you can stick Thailand
This stuff here is very helpful and I've got a lot to learn still which is also good for growth which keeps the midlife crisis at bay.
Any of you blokes seen Springsteen lately the guy is 64 still rocking it and looking awesome...a great example for the older man.I was at his hotel and the amount of young pussy trying to assault the man was pure criminal...the guy is just pure style.

[Cousin Dupree]

(06-01-2014 08:22 AM)Green-On-GO Wrote:  

I'm 43 divorced after 12 years of marriage, a father and a Veteran ...I seem to meet nothing but women in their 20's, lately..
Meanwhile my fellow work mates in their 20's are being picked up by corporate women in their 30's and 40's who buy them drinks and chase them down...I've seen it with my own eyes ..I don't consider myself a ladies man by any standard.I work out crossfit style and I am young at heart.I don't dress like an old man but I don't follow fashion.....fashion is for people without style..I also try to maintain standards which I get hell for from my mates but I want what I want...
I think however this MILF ,Cougar thing is really helping us older guys..I was in Spain last year and the oldest women I slept with was 26...I picked up a young English women in a Barca pub start kissing her and she pushes me away and says 'How old are you"?
I say 42 how old are you?
She says 24..
I say oh well my Ex wife's boyfriend is 26 ( a lie)...bang she lights up and we're back into it.Reason being the pub was swept clean by Swedish MILF only interested in young blokes.
God bless MILF/Cougars they are our friends...So many young blokes seem to be into the Cougar/MILF porn fetish...I say I'm FILF to the young ladies...it gets a laugh now and then.But I'm not chasing younger women,I just don't care and it seems to happen.

The main issue with young women her at home I'm finding is I don't know what the hell they are talking about which shows me up.I seem to mess up if i try txt... but they are giving me their numbers and that is a good thing I reckon....With women my age I feel like the opening scene of Saving Private Ryan just getting mowed down as I step off the boat..I'm really time poor if anything.I don't want a girlfriend all I want to do is enjoy myself while I can and raise my kids best as I can...Also travel ,thanks to reading this forum I'm off to Budapest in a few weeks then back to Spain with some mates then Prague...you can stick Thailand
This stuff here is very helpful and I've got a lot to learn still which is also good for growth which keeps the midlife crisis at bay.
Any of you blokes seen Springsteen lately the guy is 64 still rocking it and looking awesome...a great example for the older man.I was at his hotel and the amount of young pussy trying to assault the man was pure criminal...the guy is just pure style.

Hey Green!

Keep up the great work!

[augen sehen]

In the US I had girls who were barely 3-4 years younger than me acting like they were too young for me, here in Europe it's much better. My biggest age difference for sex has been 7 years, for a date 9 years.

[Saweeep]

I have found the best 18 year olds to game at my age (32) are the naturally submissive ones. Tbh though, this is most 18 year old girls when you get them alone; their fight crumbles quickly haha.

Oddly, I am having a lot of luck with these girls at the moment; it is probably that I have made a conscious decision to stick to the young ones.

[FR33ZE]

Crash, where are you gaming? I am in a college environment (same age range, 33), but i feel its tough tough to break into their social groups.

[Saweeep]

(06-05-2014 04:35 PM)FR33ZE Wrote:  

Crash, where are you gaming? I am in a college environment (same age range, 33), but i feel its tough tough to break into their social groups.

Social groups? Are you mad my brother?

You gotta get these girls when they're alone and not being slut shamed by their jealous friends.

I think day game works best for this target group, sir. They are just totally blown away by it, frankly. So few people hit on 18 year olds as they're walking down the street or whatever.

They blush, stutter. You can invade these girls' minds.

[spokepoker]

All young girls are into older guys.
They just don't want to admit it, for fear of being scorned by their friends.

I was with this 25yr old when I was 32, and all her friends thought I was 18 and scolded her for rocking the cradle, or whatever it's called. If we were all at a party, and she wasn't near, they would constantly flirt with me like crazy, even blatantly asking to kiss and shit while I was serving drinks at the bar, but I think that stuff was to create drama, so I didn't put up with it.

Just keep in mind that all young girls are into older guys, but their bubble only goes so far, and you don't want to burst it by over-inflating. Let her guess, and agree with whatever she comes up with, or tell her "close enough", then move on to another subject.
Just let them live in their dream worlds.

[PapayaTapper]

Im 42 and I live in beach town in So Cal where we are constantly getting solicitors coming to the door asking for or selling one thing or another. Sometimes it's a worthy cause but very often it's some type of scam so I long ago posted a "no solicitors" sign at my front gate. One afternoon about two years ago I had just gotten home when my doorbell rang. As I approach the door, ready to tear whoever it is a new one I could see tell that it was a young attractive woman so my attitude changed pretty quickly. I opened the door and there was this smoking hot (in a girl next door sort of way), tall brunette. Turned out she was fundraising for a local community college something rather by selling one of those booklets with a bunch of coupons for local dry cleaners, restaurants, etc. After she told me what a great deal it was and yada yada we chatted for two minutes and I asked her how old she was. She said "19".

As I was flipping through the coupon book the rest of the conversation went something like this: (short version...not word for word)

Me "So how long are you planning to be out here harassing my neighbors?"
Her "Hehe... for a couple more hours"
Me "Ok when youre done with that come back and I'll buy one or two of the booklets"
Her "Ok"

About an hour later she comes back. I'm sitting on my front patio having a glass of wine. I take one of the booklets

Me "So do have anything you have to do now?"
Her "No I really don't have any specific plans"
Me "You do now. I'm taking you to dinner here" (pointing at a coupon for a restaurant that's two blocks from my house) That way you can tell people that you know what your selling"
Her "Really?...um ok"

Again this isn't verbatim but is the gist. The point is I could tell she was into having a "grown man" give her attention and take charge.

We went to the restaurant, had dinner, a bottle of wine, then went back to my house. On the walk back I grabbed her hand and was joking around by jerking her towards me, pretending to be furious with her saying shit like "Get over here. Don't make me tell you again" and then grabbing her by the waist. (I've used that one with pretty good effect for years). She was laughing and I could tell she was into it.

Back at my house, I open another bottle of wine an 1/2 hour later we were in my bed. I ended up chatting with her occasionally and hitting it a couple more times during the next month or so. She told me she attracted to the fact that I was older and "established" and made her "feel like a grown woman".

No question in my mind a big part of why I was able to pull this one was that she was NOT around any of her friends or family and she had license to do what she wanted (bang an older guy) without being judged or shamed. I think that a lot of them want to and will if you can "cut them out of their herd" and isolate. She never even asked me my age.

[Phatman76]

(03-24-2013 06:09 PM)flow Wrote:  

trying to figure out what it is about an older man that young girls are not into. I have dated 18 yo girls in the past, from the time I was 30 till now at 40. and I have been shot down twice recently. a 19 yo girl I number closed and finally after text tag we went out and she found out I was 40 and bounced.
she guessed my age at 22 (I made her guess) then I told her I was 40..she said that was kinda old, and turned tail and bounced.
just what is it about a 40 yo man that young girls are not into...

or, should I care and just keep truckin...thanks.

Disclosing age when being an older man is a double edged sword. I'm 37, but look 25-28. No one, not even men believe my age when I tell them. They're mystified and think I'm fucking with their heads.

But there has been times when I've been discriminated by women who thought I was younger. So now, if i sense that a girl will hate on my age, I lie.

But like some of the guys have replied, there are plenty of girls out there who would love a fling with older man. They lure is the fact the older men are supposed to have their shit together and are much more experienced in all things.

[robreke]

I had a rather discouraging approach today I'd like some insights on. Discouraging mostly because it started out seemingly positive. I go to a coffee shop frequented by a lot of college students. btw,,,I'm 44 but could pass for mid 30s due to slimness. I'm also 6'3.
When I go in , a cute brunette, 8, is looking at me smiling as I'm wearing shades. I kind of look around and sit in front of her at another table and glance as I'm sitting...she's looking again. My back is to her and I'm in front of her as the room was kinda crowded. 10 minutes later she goes to the bath room and whenshe goes by my table.....she glances and smiles. Okay, this is gonna be easy I think.
So, a little while later as I come back from the bathroom and Im sitting down...we again exchange eye contact. I am sitting still in front of her and turning around in my chair looking behind me to face her.....kind of have to twist my neck sideways to chat with her...."is that a good laptop I query....motioning her to take her headphones off which she does. She says "sir?" ( immediately throws me a little ) So...we banter about her apple air for 2 minutes per Roosh elder chat. I start asking her about her studies...I drop bait...she doesn't ask me about myself. I ask her more about herself and comment on it...dropping a little more bait. No bites. After a few more minutes of mostly asking her questions....I'm sensing a ' I wish he would quit talking to me' vibe from her. Though she's still making eye contact with a polite look on her face....the conversation is only one way and getting a little awkward. She's just answering my questions and offering nothing more....certainly no questions of her own.
So, I say 'thanks for advice on laptop" "Sure"
I go back to my work for about 20 minutes and take a call and walk outside. When I come back in ....she keeps her eyes riveted to her computer screen...not glancing at me. .....I was going to use any eye contact as a chance to go for number when I come back in but no go. Then, when she leaves a few minutes later she stares stone faced ahead walking mechanically past my table. I said nothing.
This kind of hurt because of the initial IOIs. I've come up with several reasons why she lost interest.....maybe it was when I talked to her close up she realized how much older I was....btw she was a junior in college. Or....I had a bad vibe/energy....though I thought I was friendly and made eye contact. Another thought is a I recently grew a 10 day beard....which is 95% black with a few stray grays here and there.....and maybe that made me seem too old. ( do you older guys find being clean shaven makes you be more appealing to much younger women?) Another thing I was thinking is after all that eye contact...maybe I should have opened direct....but dang...I've been taught when there's that much initial eye contact....it's a safe bet attraction is already there. I dunno but I was really expecting a warmer reception when I opened. Finally....maybe I didn't persist enough in the initial talk....but when you're getting that 'I'm ready for you to stop talking to me vibe' after 4-5 minutes in the conversation and it's obvious she's not offering much back.....what do you do ?

[PapayaTapper]

(06-08-2014 04:35 PM)robreke Wrote:  

I had a rather discouraging approach today I'd like some insights on. Discouraging mostly because it started out seemingly positive. I go to a coffee shop frequented by a lot of college students. btw,,,I'm 44 but could pass for mid 30s due to slimness. I'm also 6'3.
When I go in , a cute brunette, 8, is looking at me smiling as I'm wearing shades. I kind of look around and sit in front of her at another table and glance as I'm sitting...she's looking again. My back is to her and I'm in front of her as the room was kinda crowded. 10 minutes later she goes to the bath room and whenshe goes by my table.....she glances and smiles. Okay, this is gonna be easy I think.
So, a little while later as I come back from the bathroom and Im sitting down...we again exchange eye contact. I am sitting still in front of her and turning around in my chair looking behind me to face her.....kind of have to twist my neck sideways to chat with her...."is that a good laptop I query....motioning her to take her headphones off which she does. She says "sir?" ( immediately throws me a little ) So...we banter about her apple air for 2 minutes per Roosh elder chat. I start asking her about her studies...I drop bait...she doesn't ask me about myself. I ask her more about herself and comment on it...dropping a little more bait. No bites. After a few more minutes of mostly asking her questions....I'm sensing a ' I wish he would quit talking to me' vibe from her. Though she's still making eye contact with a polite look on her face....the conversation is only one way and getting a little awkward. She's just answering my questions and offering nothing more....certainly no questions of her own.
So, I say 'thanks for advice on laptop" "Sure"
I go back to my work for about 20 minutes and take a call and walk outside. When I come back in ....she keeps her eyes riveted to her computer screen...not glancing at me. .....I was going to use any eye contact as a chance to go for number when I come back in but no go. Then, when she leaves a few minutes later she stares stone faced ahead walking mechanically past my table. I said nothing.
This kind of hurt because of the initial IOIs. I've come up with several reasons why she lost interest.....maybe it was when I talked to her close up she realized how much older I was....btw she was a junior in college. Or....I had a bad vibe/energy....though I thought I was friendly and made eye contact. Another thought is a I recently grew a 10 day beard....which is 95% black with a few stray grays here and there.....and maybe that made me seem too old. ( do you older guys find being clean shaven makes you be more appealing to much younger women?) Another thing I was thinking is after all that eye contact...maybe I should have opened direct....but dang...I've been taught when there's that much initial eye contact....it's a safe bet attraction is already there. I dunno but I was really expecting a warmer reception when I opened. Finally....maybe I didn't persist enough in the initial talk....but when you're getting that 'I'm ready for you to stop talking to me vibe' after 4-5 minutes in the conversation and it's obvious she's not offering much back.....what do you do ?

Meh...Honestly I think you might be reading too much into it. I wouldn't worry too much about it (or any single approach/set). If there's anything I've learned is it's all just a numbers game. Is there ANYTHING you could have done or said that might have made it work?...Maybe, but maybe not.

Sounds like a good spot though so I'd go back and keep approaching. For me (Im 42) I have better luck just going direct with younger women especially if I'm getting ANY IOI's before approaching.

[PapayaTapper]

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